Computer help needed with camcorder connection

Hey guys,

I stumbled across my old JVC Mini DV recorder and some old tapes, from 2001 and a few years afterward.

It uses a firewire connection to the computer so I ordered a card for it from Amazon, this one:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004QY7M3Y/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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I installed the card, the computer loaded up the software and good to go....or not??

I can't get the camcorder to connect and show up as anything?? Under the device manager I got it to show under imaging devices, see below.

The software that came with the camcorder is old (see below) may need something newer - any advise?? I want to be able to save the video to my computer and then edit it and save as another file.

Any help is much appreciated.

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Pio Elete Pro 520
Panamax 5400-EX
Sunfire TGP 5
Micro Seiki DD-40 - Lyra-Dorian and Denon DL-160
PS Audio GCPH phono pre
Sunfire CG 200 X 5
Sunfire CG Sig 405 X 5
OPPO BDP-83 SE
SDA SRS 1.2TL Sonicaps and Mills
Ctr CS1000p
Sur - FX1000 x 4
SUB - SVS PB2-Plus

Workkout room:
Sony Bravia XBR- 32-Inch 1080p
Onkyo TX-DS898
GFA 555
Yamaha DVD-S1800BL/SACD
Ft - SDA 1C

Not being used:
RTi 38's -4
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RT25i's -2, using other 2 in shop
LSI 15's
CSi40
PSW 404

Comments

  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 5,916
    What is the model number of the JVC camcorder?
    • "Electronic music is human sound adapting to indulge technology, and for some, it feels like the signature sound of energy. New and abstract sounds over hypnotic rhythms can conjure vast soundscapes for escape, pleasure, and transcendence."
  • gmcmangmcman Posts: 1,398
    Are you just turning the camcorder on and plugging in the firewire? Do you need to open the video gallery to view in the camcorder?

  • vmaxervmaxer Posts: 4,347
    Clipdat wrote: »
    What is the model number of the JVC camcorder?

    GR-DVF21U
    Pio Elete Pro 520
    Panamax 5400-EX
    Sunfire TGP 5
    Micro Seiki DD-40 - Lyra-Dorian and Denon DL-160
    PS Audio GCPH phono pre
    Sunfire CG 200 X 5
    Sunfire CG Sig 405 X 5
    OPPO BDP-83 SE
    SDA SRS 1.2TL Sonicaps and Mills
    Ctr CS1000p
    Sur - FX1000 x 4
    SUB - SVS PB2-Plus

    Workkout room:
    Sony Bravia XBR- 32-Inch 1080p
    Onkyo TX-DS898
    GFA 555
    Yamaha DVD-S1800BL/SACD
    Ft - SDA 1C

    Not being used:
    RTi 38's -4
    RT55i's - 2
    RT25i's -2, using other 2 in shop
    LSI 15's
    CSi40
    PSW 404
  • vmaxervmaxer Posts: 4,347
    gmcman wrote: »
    Are you just turning the camcorder on and plugging in the firewire? Do you need to open the video gallery to view in the camcorder?

    Basically yes, the software seems to want me to set a com port. Can't find a way to do that.

    What is the video gallery??

    Running an XPS 8900 with windows 7.
    Pio Elete Pro 520
    Panamax 5400-EX
    Sunfire TGP 5
    Micro Seiki DD-40 - Lyra-Dorian and Denon DL-160
    PS Audio GCPH phono pre
    Sunfire CG 200 X 5
    Sunfire CG Sig 405 X 5
    OPPO BDP-83 SE
    SDA SRS 1.2TL Sonicaps and Mills
    Ctr CS1000p
    Sur - FX1000 x 4
    SUB - SVS PB2-Plus

    Workkout room:
    Sony Bravia XBR- 32-Inch 1080p
    Onkyo TX-DS898
    GFA 555
    Yamaha DVD-S1800BL/SACD
    Ft - SDA 1C

    Not being used:
    RTi 38's -4
    RT55i's - 2
    RT25i's -2, using other 2 in shop
    LSI 15's
    CSi40
    PSW 404
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 5,916
    edited December 2017
    I believe what you need to do is use that JVC software or Windows Movie Maker to "import" the video off of the player.

    Open the LCD screen of the camcorder and set it to preview mode. Then go into the menus in either application and choose something like File -> Import.

    Then what you'll essentially be doing is playing back the video and simultaneously capturing it into the computer. It'll take at least 1:1 time to do it, meaning 1 hour of video will take 1 hour to capture into the computer. 1 hour will be about 10-13gb of hard drive space used, btw.

    Let me know if you have any other questions, but finding the option to "import" the video into the application is the key.
    vmaxer wrote: »
    GR-DVF21U

    • "Electronic music is human sound adapting to indulge technology, and for some, it feels like the signature sound of energy. New and abstract sounds over hypnotic rhythms can conjure vast soundscapes for escape, pleasure, and transcendence."
  • vmaxervmaxer Posts: 4,347
    Clipdat wrote: »
    I believe what you need to do is use that JVC software or Windows Movie Maker to "import" the video off of the player.

    Open the LCD screen of the camcorder and set it to preview mode. Then go into the menus in either application and choose something like File -> Import.

    Then what you'll essentially be doing is playing back the video and simultaneously capturing it into the computer. It'll take at least 1:1 time to do it, meaning 1 hour of video will take 1 hour to capture into the computer. 1 hour will be about 10-13gb of hard drive space used, btw.

    Let me know if you have any other questions, but finding the option to "import" the video into the application is the key.
    vmaxer wrote: »
    GR-DVF21U

    *The software doesn't seem to work on this computer.

    Seems I need to select a serial port, but it won't let me so it doesn't see a device connected.

    1rb2zkg1htds.jpg
    Pio Elete Pro 520
    Panamax 5400-EX
    Sunfire TGP 5
    Micro Seiki DD-40 - Lyra-Dorian and Denon DL-160
    PS Audio GCPH phono pre
    Sunfire CG 200 X 5
    Sunfire CG Sig 405 X 5
    OPPO BDP-83 SE
    SDA SRS 1.2TL Sonicaps and Mills
    Ctr CS1000p
    Sur - FX1000 x 4
    SUB - SVS PB2-Plus

    Workkout room:
    Sony Bravia XBR- 32-Inch 1080p
    Onkyo TX-DS898
    GFA 555
    Yamaha DVD-S1800BL/SACD
    Ft - SDA 1C

    Not being used:
    RTi 38's -4
    RT55i's - 2
    RT25i's -2, using other 2 in shop
    LSI 15's
    CSi40
    PSW 404
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 5,916
    Yeah, sounds like that software is quite old. I don't think firewire ports map over to serial port allocations. I would try to find a different piece of software to use.

    Try searching on your start menu for Windows Movie Maker. IIRC Windows 7 comes with this software preinstalled.
    vmaxer wrote: »

    *The software doesn't seem to work on this computer.

    • "Electronic music is human sound adapting to indulge technology, and for some, it feels like the signature sound of energy. New and abstract sounds over hypnotic rhythms can conjure vast soundscapes for escape, pleasure, and transcendence."
  • vmaxervmaxer Posts: 4,347
    My computer only has Windows Media Center. The software worked with the firewire connection on my old computer. It is dead or I would fire it up for this, may need to buy an older one for this project?
    Pio Elete Pro 520
    Panamax 5400-EX
    Sunfire TGP 5
    Micro Seiki DD-40 - Lyra-Dorian and Denon DL-160
    PS Audio GCPH phono pre
    Sunfire CG 200 X 5
    Sunfire CG Sig 405 X 5
    OPPO BDP-83 SE
    SDA SRS 1.2TL Sonicaps and Mills
    Ctr CS1000p
    Sur - FX1000 x 4
    SUB - SVS PB2-Plus

    Workkout room:
    Sony Bravia XBR- 32-Inch 1080p
    Onkyo TX-DS898
    GFA 555
    Yamaha DVD-S1800BL/SACD
    Ft - SDA 1C

    Not being used:
    RTi 38's -4
    RT55i's - 2
    RT25i's -2, using other 2 in shop
    LSI 15's
    CSi40
    PSW 404
  • vmaxervmaxer Posts: 4,347
    Anyone have ideas?
    Pio Elete Pro 520
    Panamax 5400-EX
    Sunfire TGP 5
    Micro Seiki DD-40 - Lyra-Dorian and Denon DL-160
    PS Audio GCPH phono pre
    Sunfire CG 200 X 5
    Sunfire CG Sig 405 X 5
    OPPO BDP-83 SE
    SDA SRS 1.2TL Sonicaps and Mills
    Ctr CS1000p
    Sur - FX1000 x 4
    SUB - SVS PB2-Plus

    Workkout room:
    Sony Bravia XBR- 32-Inch 1080p
    Onkyo TX-DS898
    GFA 555
    Yamaha DVD-S1800BL/SACD
    Ft - SDA 1C

    Not being used:
    RTi 38's -4
    RT55i's - 2
    RT25i's -2, using other 2 in shop
    LSI 15's
    CSi40
    PSW 404
  • BlueMDPickerBlueMDPicker Old Polk Posts: 6,983
    Software or firmware updates available from card manufacturer?


  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 12,596
    well you could find a company that can do it. My cousin runs one near me and many local's have something similar. Many want their old VCR tapes moved to DVD or something so there are companies out there that do it. Might save you some headaches. Might also be a wash in cost by the time you buy stuff to do it ONCE yourself.

    My .02
  • mrbironmrbiron Posts: 4,947
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  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 5,916
    I might be wrong, but I believe the limitation you are experiencing is software in nature, not hardware.

    You might look into other software like Sony Vegas but you'll have to pay for it. There might be a few video capture software applications that would all you to try them out before buying, to see if you can at least make the physical connection to the camera.
    vmaxer wrote: »
    My computer only has Windows Media Center. The software worked with the firewire connection on my old computer. It is dead or I would fire it up for this, may need to buy an older one for this project?

    • "Electronic music is human sound adapting to indulge technology, and for some, it feels like the signature sound of energy. New and abstract sounds over hypnotic rhythms can conjure vast soundscapes for escape, pleasure, and transcendence."
  • I am having the same issue with my Cannon ZR900, I last used it January of this year and had no issues, but now nothing happens when I connect it to the fire wire. checked with cannon site for update for drivers, no luck, win 10 says I have the best software for the device.

    I have had to use my phone as my video camera for now on, and that's not cool when you really want a higher quality project.
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    Living room 2ch:
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    Upstairs media room:
    Vizio D1 32" Pioneer Elite VSX 32 Sony PS4 Squeezebox Touch Polkaudio Rti 6's fronts Polk CSR Center Polkaudio PSW 10 sub Panamax M5300-EX
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    Vizio VF550M Pioneer Elite VSX 33 Pioneer Elite BDP 80FD Squeezebox Touch Polk audio Monitor 40 II fronts, Rears Optimus LX5s Jensen CCS center Polkaudio PSW 10 sub Panamax 5100
  • billbillwbillbillw Posts: 5,801
    edited December 2017
    I think I was having to use Windows Movie Maker to pull the video off my DV recorder a few years back.

    If you don't have Movie Maker, you can install it on Windows 7, 8, or 10 with the Windows Live Essentials installation software. It looks like Microsoft doesn't have links to the software anymore, so if you can't find the software to download, I have a copy archived. Let me know and I will give you a Google drive link later tonight.

    Edit: I haven't tried this, but found a link to a web archive:
    http://web.archive.org/web/20170112124505/http:/wl.dlservice.microsoft.com/download/C/1/B/C1BA42D6-6A50-4A4A-90E5-FA9347E9360C/en/wlsetup-all.exe

    The software is a full suite, but you can de-select everything except Windows Movie Maker (and perhaps Photo Gallery). Let me know if this doesn't work.
    Main 2-ch:
    Sony SS-M9; LSA Statement Amplifier; VPI HW-19 Mk3/Sumiko Premier FT-4/Audio Technica AT15SA; Pass Labs DIY Pearl Phono; Sony SCD-C333ES SACD Changer; TEAC UD-301 DAC; Dell/WYSE 5010 (running Daphile); Sony ST-SA5ES Tuner; Nanotec Golden Strada speaker cables (SR+#79 Shotgun); Audioquest Coral interconnects
  • vmaxervmaxer Posts: 4,347
    billbillw wrote: »
    I think I was having to use Windows Movie Maker to pull the video off my DV recorder a few years back.

    If you don't have Movie Maker, you can install it on Windows 7, 8, or 10 with the Windows Live Essentials installation software. It looks like Microsoft doesn't have links to the software anymore, so if you can't find the software to download, I have a copy archived. Let me know and I will give you a Google drive link later tonight.

    Edit: I haven't tried this, but found a link to a web archive:
    http://web.archive.org/web/20170112124505/http:/wl.dlservice.microsoft.com/download/C/1/B/C1BA42D6-6A50-4A4A-90E5-FA9347E9360C/en/wlsetup-all.exe

    The software is a full suite, but you can de-select everything except Windows Movie Maker (and perhaps Photo Gallery). Let me know if this doesn't work.

    Thank you!!

    I will give this a try as soon as I get a few minutes and let you know.
    Pio Elete Pro 520
    Panamax 5400-EX
    Sunfire TGP 5
    Micro Seiki DD-40 - Lyra-Dorian and Denon DL-160
    PS Audio GCPH phono pre
    Sunfire CG 200 X 5
    Sunfire CG Sig 405 X 5
    OPPO BDP-83 SE
    SDA SRS 1.2TL Sonicaps and Mills
    Ctr CS1000p
    Sur - FX1000 x 4
    SUB - SVS PB2-Plus

    Workkout room:
    Sony Bravia XBR- 32-Inch 1080p
    Onkyo TX-DS898
    GFA 555
    Yamaha DVD-S1800BL/SACD
    Ft - SDA 1C

    Not being used:
    RTi 38's -4
    RT55i's - 2
    RT25i's -2, using other 2 in shop
    LSI 15's
    CSi40
    PSW 404
  • vmaxervmaxer Posts: 4,347
    edited December 2017
    @billbillw this worked great.

    Thanks a lot for the help.
    Pio Elete Pro 520
    Panamax 5400-EX
    Sunfire TGP 5
    Micro Seiki DD-40 - Lyra-Dorian and Denon DL-160
    PS Audio GCPH phono pre
    Sunfire CG 200 X 5
    Sunfire CG Sig 405 X 5
    OPPO BDP-83 SE
    SDA SRS 1.2TL Sonicaps and Mills
    Ctr CS1000p
    Sur - FX1000 x 4
    SUB - SVS PB2-Plus

    Workkout room:
    Sony Bravia XBR- 32-Inch 1080p
    Onkyo TX-DS898
    GFA 555
    Yamaha DVD-S1800BL/SACD
    Ft - SDA 1C

    Not being used:
    RTi 38's -4
    RT55i's - 2
    RT25i's -2, using other 2 in shop
    LSI 15's
    CSi40
    PSW 404
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 5,916
    Nice, glad Window Movie Maker worked out for you.
    vmaxer wrote: »
    @billbillw this worked great.

    Thanks a lot for the help.

    • "Electronic music is human sound adapting to indulge technology, and for some, it feels like the signature sound of energy. New and abstract sounds over hypnotic rhythms can conjure vast soundscapes for escape, pleasure, and transcendence."
  • vmaxervmaxer Posts: 4,347
    Clipdat wrote: »
    Nice, glad Window Movie Maker worked out for you.
    vmaxer wrote: »
    @billbillw this worked great.

    Thanks a lot for the help.

    Thank you too @Clipdat - you suggested this first but I wasn't aware you could still get the software.

    So - another issue resolved with the friendly help here.
    Pio Elete Pro 520
    Panamax 5400-EX
    Sunfire TGP 5
    Micro Seiki DD-40 - Lyra-Dorian and Denon DL-160
    PS Audio GCPH phono pre
    Sunfire CG 200 X 5
    Sunfire CG Sig 405 X 5
    OPPO BDP-83 SE
    SDA SRS 1.2TL Sonicaps and Mills
    Ctr CS1000p
    Sur - FX1000 x 4
    SUB - SVS PB2-Plus

    Workkout room:
    Sony Bravia XBR- 32-Inch 1080p
    Onkyo TX-DS898
    GFA 555
    Yamaha DVD-S1800BL/SACD
    Ft - SDA 1C

    Not being used:
    RTi 38's -4
    RT55i's - 2
    RT25i's -2, using other 2 in shop
    LSI 15's
    CSi40
    PSW 404
  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 12,596
    Very nice
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 5,916
    All good, glad you got it sorted out in the end.

    Of course it's Microsoft, so they never make anything easy!

    Hope you're enjoying your old vids. It's so much easier with the new cams that use SD cards to move around and store footage!
    vmaxer wrote: »

    Thank you too @Clipdat - you suggested this first but I wasn't aware you could still get the software.

    So - another issue resolved with the friendly help here.

    • "Electronic music is human sound adapting to indulge technology, and for some, it feels like the signature sound of energy. New and abstract sounds over hypnotic rhythms can conjure vast soundscapes for escape, pleasure, and transcendence."
  • vmaxervmaxer Posts: 4,347
    Clipdat wrote: »
    All good, glad you got it sorted out in the end.

    Of course it's Microsoft, so they never make anything easy!

    Hope you're enjoying your old vids. It's so much easier with the new cams that use SD cards to move around and store footage!
    vmaxer wrote: »

    Thank you too @Clipdat - you suggested this first but I wasn't aware you could still get the software.

    So - another issue resolved with the friendly help here.

    I am trying to make a couple DVD’s for my 81 year old mother for Christmas. I have some of our family gathering for Christmas that have her mother in them. A lot of the family getting up and singing songs including my mother and her 2 sisters. They are from 2002 to 2005.

    Then I have some of my 17 year old daughter during the same time period.

    So, this means a lot to me.

    Very thankful for all the help here.
    Pio Elete Pro 520
    Panamax 5400-EX
    Sunfire TGP 5
    Micro Seiki DD-40 - Lyra-Dorian and Denon DL-160
    PS Audio GCPH phono pre
    Sunfire CG 200 X 5
    Sunfire CG Sig 405 X 5
    OPPO BDP-83 SE
    SDA SRS 1.2TL Sonicaps and Mills
    Ctr CS1000p
    Sur - FX1000 x 4
    SUB - SVS PB2-Plus

    Workkout room:
    Sony Bravia XBR- 32-Inch 1080p
    Onkyo TX-DS898
    GFA 555
    Yamaha DVD-S1800BL/SACD
    Ft - SDA 1C

    Not being used:
    RTi 38's -4
    RT55i's - 2
    RT25i's -2, using other 2 in shop
    LSI 15's
    CSi40
    PSW 404
  • billbillwbillbillw Posts: 5,801
    Glad to help. Nobody wants to loose old videos. Make sure you make a 2nd backup of those.
    Main 2-ch:
    Sony SS-M9; LSA Statement Amplifier; VPI HW-19 Mk3/Sumiko Premier FT-4/Audio Technica AT15SA; Pass Labs DIY Pearl Phono; Sony SCD-C333ES SACD Changer; TEAC UD-301 DAC; Dell/WYSE 5010 (running Daphile); Sony ST-SA5ES Tuner; Nanotec Golden Strada speaker cables (SR+#79 Shotgun); Audioquest Coral interconnects
  • vmaxervmaxer Posts: 4,347
    billbillw wrote: »
    Glad to help. Nobody wants to loose old videos. Make sure you make a 2nd backup of those.

    I sure will.

    What is the best method to burn the files to a DVD?

    I am wanting to make a couple for my mother.
    Pio Elete Pro 520
    Panamax 5400-EX
    Sunfire TGP 5
    Micro Seiki DD-40 - Lyra-Dorian and Denon DL-160
    PS Audio GCPH phono pre
    Sunfire CG 200 X 5
    Sunfire CG Sig 405 X 5
    OPPO BDP-83 SE
    SDA SRS 1.2TL Sonicaps and Mills
    Ctr CS1000p
    Sur - FX1000 x 4
    SUB - SVS PB2-Plus

    Workkout room:
    Sony Bravia XBR- 32-Inch 1080p
    Onkyo TX-DS898
    GFA 555
    Yamaha DVD-S1800BL/SACD
    Ft - SDA 1C

    Not being used:
    RTi 38's -4
    RT55i's - 2
    RT25i's -2, using other 2 in shop
    LSI 15's
    CSi40
    PSW 404
  • billbillwbillbillw Posts: 5,801
    vmaxer wrote: »
    billbillw wrote: »
    Glad to help. Nobody wants to loose old videos. Make sure you make a 2nd backup of those.

    I sure will.

    What is the best method to burn the files to a DVD?

    I am wanting to make a couple for my mother.

    Best or easiest? You can get fancy editing, adding transitions, graphics, intro music, etc. or you can just arrange them all in one ~1hr video and burn it to disc.

    Windows Movie maker is probably the easiest.

    Lots of choices if you want to get fancy...Pinnacle, Sony Vegas, Adobe Premiere, etc. Something called Open Shot (no experience, but its rated high). I haven't done much movie editing since around 2004, so I'm out of the current software loop.
    Main 2-ch:
    Sony SS-M9; LSA Statement Amplifier; VPI HW-19 Mk3/Sumiko Premier FT-4/Audio Technica AT15SA; Pass Labs DIY Pearl Phono; Sony SCD-C333ES SACD Changer; TEAC UD-301 DAC; Dell/WYSE 5010 (running Daphile); Sony ST-SA5ES Tuner; Nanotec Golden Strada speaker cables (SR+#79 Shotgun); Audioquest Coral interconnects
  • Just did some research on this issues and its a Win 8-10 issue. Microsoft Fail to put in the drivers to support Firewire connection in general, so that includes Cameras, sound cards and any other devices that may uses these type of port. There has been some success by going with an older version driver from Win XP or 7 but not 100% effective in all cases.
    Family Room HT 7.2/i]:
    Vizio P55-E1UHD Pioneer Elite SC-LX502 Pioneer Elite BDP 85FD Pioneer Elite N-50 Panamax M5300-EX
    Living room 2ch:
    Integra ADM 2.1 Teac EQ MKII Squeezebox Touch Fluance SX Speakers Panamax M5100-EX
    Upstairs media room:
    Vizio D1 32" Pioneer Elite VSX 32 Sony PS4 Squeezebox Touch Polkaudio Rti 6's fronts Polk CSR Center Polkaudio PSW 10 sub Panamax M5300-EX
    Master bedroom:
    Vizio VF550M Pioneer Elite VSX 33 Pioneer Elite BDP 80FD Squeezebox Touch Polk audio Monitor 40 II fronts, Rears Optimus LX5s Jensen CCS center Polkaudio PSW 10 sub Panamax 5100
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