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HT Receiver Recommendation?

dpowelldpowell Posts: 2,819
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I have been a satisfied (from a SQ) Pioneer Elite owner for the past 8 years or so starting out with a 92-txh and then moving to my current SC-67 (which I've had just over 3.5 years. Last night the SC-67 displayed the dreaded UE22 error that units from 2011 and 2012 are apparently prone to. I now have a $2,000 boat anchor in the rack. Having also had to have a custom HDMI board repair done to the 92-txh receiver, I'm seriously considering leaving the Pioneer brand for good. Looking for ideas on a next move. Some things I'm considering:

I don't need Class D amps in a receiver since I use the Sunfire to drive the L/R/C but I do need amplification for the 4 rear channels (and possibly another 4 Atmos channels in the future). I do plan to install Atmos at some point and already have an additional 2 in-ceiling speakers ready to go.

I have dual subs and Pioneer never supported room EQ for a dual sub configuration
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polkaudio Fully Modded SDA SRS 2.3TL's + Dreadnaught, LSiM706c, 4 X TC265i Rears, SVS PB13 Ultra x 2
Pass Labs X1, Pioneer Elite SC-67, Sunfire Signature Cinema Grande 400, Oppo BDP-83SE, Sony SCD-C333ES
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  • dolbyddolbyd Posts: 424
    I was a Pioneer Elite buyer for 25 years. 9 receivers.
    Since the Onkyo merger I have not been happy with their products, And let's not even get started about how they dropped the ball on Blu-ray/UHD.

    I am currently running a Pioneer elite SC87 with 4 ATMOS in ceilings in my family room. It works but I have not been happy with it as far as control.
    I recently upgraded to Marantz in the master bedroom
    and couldn't be happier.

    My plan is to buy the Marantz 7704 when it drops this fall.
    I would look at that or possibly the new 7012 receiver. I think that would match well with your Sunfire amp. Also the Sub EQ will work great with your dual subs.
    Main room- RTiA9 x4, CSiA6, in ceiling Atmos RT-70 x4, SVS PC 4000 x2, Marantz 7705, OPPO 203, Emotiva DR3 G3, Emotiva XPA-2 G3, Emotiva XPA-5 G3, Emotiva X300, Sony 75" 940E, Panasonic Plasma VT50, PS Audio Power Port X2, Perfect Wave AC-5 x8, Douglas jumpers, SVS Ultra speaker cables, Transparent IC, Furman PFi20 W/Cullen cable, SoildSteel S4-4 rack, GIK room treatments

    Office-Infinity Kappa 600, Kappa Center, in ceiling Polk RC80i, Marantz 5012, OPPO 203, Pioneer Elite PDF-59 CD, PSA Stellar 300, Sony 510C 48"

    Master BR- LSi7, LSiC, LSI700 in ceiling, SVS-PC 2000, Marantz 7704, Emotiva XPA-5 G2, OPPO 203, Pioneer DVL-919 Laser Disc, Sony 55" 800B

    Patio- SDI Atrium8 x3, Emotiva A-100 amps x3
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  • dpowelldpowell Posts: 2,819
    Thanks for the input. There may be hope yet for the receiver. I called Pioneer this morning and they have referred me to a specific program they have in place for addressing this issue, even when the unit is out of warranty. Will post results when I know more.
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    polkaudio Fully Modded SDA SRS 2.3TL's + Dreadnaught, LSiM706c, 4 X TC265i Rears, SVS PB13 Ultra x 2
    Pass Labs X1, Pioneer Elite SC-67, Sunfire Signature Cinema Grande 400, Oppo BDP-83SE, Sony SCD-C333ES
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  • teamjhertzteamjhertz Posts: 340
    I used the program a couple of times.

    There was no cost and the tuen around was quick.

    Good luck
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  • dpowelldpowell Posts: 2,819
    Glad to hear it!
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    polkaudio Fully Modded SDA SRS 2.3TL's + Dreadnaught, LSiM706c, 4 X TC265i Rears, SVS PB13 Ultra x 2
    Pass Labs X1, Pioneer Elite SC-67, Sunfire Signature Cinema Grande 400, Oppo BDP-83SE, Sony SCD-C333ES
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  • DmegaDmega Posts: 83
    Anthem mrx
    Speakers: Polk - Front RtiA9 - Center Csi6 - Surrounds RtiA1 - Heights Sc60 - Sub Psw125 +SVS PB2000
    Power: Anthem MRX1120 11 ch. Atmos/dtsx receiver
    TV: Vizio m70c3 4k led TV
    Player: Philips bdp7501 uhd player
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  • deronb1deronb1 Posts: 4,983
    Anthem does have the best room correction going.
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  • gcegce Posts: 2,183
    I've moved up the ladder from Yamaha to Marantz and now I have an Anthem. Anthem for me was a good choice. Not that threes anything wrong with Yamaha or Marantz. Maybe it's the room correct[on, but the Anthem sounds the best to me.
    Anaheim Hills CA,
    HT 5.1: Anthem MRX 720 / BDP-Denon DBT1713UD / Polkaudio LSiM703 / W4S mAmp's / Polkaudio LSiM706c / Polkaudio LSiM702F/X's / SVS PC12-NSD / Panasonic TC P55VT30

    2 Channel: Rogue RP-5 / WireWorld Electra power cord / Marantz TT-15S1/ Ortofon - Quintet Black MC / Marantz NA8005 DAC / W4S mAmp's / Synology DS 216+ll-4TB / Polkaudio LSiM703
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  • nooshinjohnnooshinjohn Posts: 21,929
    edited September 2017
    ToTL Yamaha Aventage is where I go next, I think... the CXa-5100 and a separate amp.
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, TriangleArt Reference SE with Pass Labs Xono Phono Preamp, Walker Precision Motor Drive, ClearAudio Goldfinger Diamond v2 cartridge and Origin Conquerer Mk3c tonearm, Polk Audio "Signature" Reference Series 1.2TL with complete mods, Pass Labs X0.2 three chassis preamp, PS Audio PerfectWave DAC MkII, Krell Evolution 505 SACD Player, Pioneer Elite SC-LX701, Oppo UDP-205 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds.

    Saying that it's "too hard" to pursue your dreams is no different than admitting to yourself that you are too lazy to achieve them.

    “If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.”
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  • motorhead43026motorhead43026 Posts: 3,374
    edited September 2017
    I agree, Anthem just for the sound and ARC.

    Post edited by motorhead43026 on
    2 channel: Anthem 225 Integrated amp; Parasound Ztuner; TechnicsTT SL1350; Vincent PHO-8 phono pre; Marantz CD6005 spinner; Polk SDA2BTL's; LAT International speaker cables, ZU Mission IC's and power cables all into a PS Audio Dectet Power center.

    Other; S60'S, M10 series II, M7C's, Hafler XL600 amp, RB-980BX, Parasound HCA-1500 amp , P5 preamp, all in storage. All vintage Polk have had crossover rebuilds and tweeter upgrades.


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  • mdaudioguymdaudioguy Posts: 5,120
    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    ToTL Yamaha Aventage is where I go next, I think... the CXa-5100 and a separate amp.

    Oooh, that looks nice! Could be my next step too, and I wasn't even thinking about it until you had to go and post that!
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  • jeremymarcinkojeremymarcinko Posts: 3,515
    +1 on the Yamaha AVENTAGE
    Oh, Listen here mister. We got no way of understandin' this world. But we got as much sense of this bird flyin in the sky. Now there is a lot that bird don't know, but it don't change the fact that the world is happening to him all the same. What I am tryin to say is, is that the course of your life, well its changing, and you don't even see it- Forest Bondurant
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  • rpf65rpf65 Posts: 2,112
    If your using the AVR as a pre/pro, i would also go Yamaha. They build a lot of bells and whistles geared towards HT into their Aventage line, and room correction is pretty good.

    As far as power to drive your surrounds, just about every manufacturer's higher end units should be capable, so I wouldn't really worry about that side of the equation.

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  • mrlorenmrloren Posts: 2,213
    I like my Marantz, Audyssey can be a pain to get dialed in but one completely done it is rather nice.

    Sign up for Fry's Promo code and the RX-A1070 is $779
    When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.

    Family Room:
    Samsung UN75RU710DFXZA,
    Denon AVR-X4400H, Emotiva XPA3 GEN3
    Oppo BDP-93,Sony UBP-X800BM, WD Live HUB.
    Main: Polk LsiM 705
    Center: Polk LSiM 704C
    Front High/Rear High In-Ceiling Polk 80F/X RT
    Surrounds: Polk S15
    Sub: HSU VTF3-MK5

    Bed Room;
    Marantz SR5010, BDP-S270
    Main: Polk Signature S20
    Center: Polk Signature S35
    Rear: Polk R15
    Sub: HSU STF-2

    Working Warehouse;
    Sony 2100ES AVR, Sony DVP-NS3100ES for disc
    Cerwin Vega AT-12 (blasters) Advent Prodigy (listening)
    Old sony 12" Sub
    Mini tower PC with 400GB of music
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  • dpowelldpowell Posts: 2,819
    I will definitely look at Yamaha's if I can't get the Pioneer repaired. The 1070 only supports two channels of Atmos so I will have to look at higher end models.
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    polkaudio Fully Modded SDA SRS 2.3TL's + Dreadnaught, LSiM706c, 4 X TC265i Rears, SVS PB13 Ultra x 2
    Pass Labs X1, Pioneer Elite SC-67, Sunfire Signature Cinema Grande 400, Oppo BDP-83SE, Sony SCD-C333ES
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  • nooshinjohnnooshinjohn Posts: 21,929
    dpowell wrote: »
    I will definitely look at Yamaha's if I can't get the Pioneer repaired. The 1070 only supports two channels of Atmos so I will have to look at higher end models.

    Seriously look at the CX-a5100. Let's you keep or upgrade amplification, and unless they come up with a format that lets you become the star of the film instead of just watch, it should be pretty much all you could ever need from an HT processor.
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, TriangleArt Reference SE with Pass Labs Xono Phono Preamp, Walker Precision Motor Drive, ClearAudio Goldfinger Diamond v2 cartridge and Origin Conquerer Mk3c tonearm, Polk Audio "Signature" Reference Series 1.2TL with complete mods, Pass Labs X0.2 three chassis preamp, PS Audio PerfectWave DAC MkII, Krell Evolution 505 SACD Player, Pioneer Elite SC-LX701, Oppo UDP-205 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds.

    Saying that it's "too hard" to pursue your dreams is no different than admitting to yourself that you are too lazy to achieve them.

    “If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.”
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  • mrlorenmrloren Posts: 2,213
    Hmm,

    Maybe a Denon https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01KZRPNIQ/ref=s9u_simh_gw_i1?ie=UTF8&fpl=fresh&pd_rd_i=B01KZRPNIQ&pd_rd_r=QV3H48HCF6J5M68WRE21&pd_rd_w=fCwba&pd_rd_wg=8p6N3&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=&pf_rd_r=VSMSAJ10FA8D9R5FGVTZ&pf_rd_t=36701&pf_rd_p=1dd2ffc3-992f-4bde-81b0-de270e0ead5a&pf_rd_i=desktop
    When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.

    Family Room:
    Samsung UN75RU710DFXZA,
    Denon AVR-X4400H, Emotiva XPA3 GEN3
    Oppo BDP-93,Sony UBP-X800BM, WD Live HUB.
    Main: Polk LsiM 705
    Center: Polk LSiM 704C
    Front High/Rear High In-Ceiling Polk 80F/X RT
    Surrounds: Polk S15
    Sub: HSU VTF3-MK5

    Bed Room;
    Marantz SR5010, BDP-S270
    Main: Polk Signature S20
    Center: Polk Signature S35
    Rear: Polk R15
    Sub: HSU STF-2

    Working Warehouse;
    Sony 2100ES AVR, Sony DVP-NS3100ES for disc
    Cerwin Vega AT-12 (blasters) Advent Prodigy (listening)
    Old sony 12" Sub
    Mini tower PC with 400GB of music
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  • dpowelldpowell Posts: 2,819
    It's been a while since I posted this and thought I'd update the thread. I contacted Pioneer and told the CS rep the error code. He groaned and said, "oh that error" then quickly connected me with their repair department. Sent them two pics of the back (SN and MFR date) and they confirmed it was covered, no questions asked. Pioneer shipped me a box with packing materials with a prepaid label for shipping the receiver in for repair. The unit arrived back within a week fixed and working perfectly. Extending a warranty to cover an issue nearly 6 years after manufacture date....Zero cost to me.....Now THAT is solid customer service! Kudo's to Pioneer!
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    polkaudio Fully Modded SDA SRS 2.3TL's + Dreadnaught, LSiM706c, 4 X TC265i Rears, SVS PB13 Ultra x 2
    Pass Labs X1, Pioneer Elite SC-67, Sunfire Signature Cinema Grande 400, Oppo BDP-83SE, Sony SCD-C333ES
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  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0
    Hell yeah! I love when a company stands behind their products. Especially since I have a Pioneer myself.
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  • verbverb Posts: 9,014
    Good to know. I have a Pioneer SC-95 for 6 months now. So far so good. Love it!
    Basement: Polk SDA SRS,Cary SLP-05 Pre,Enlightened Audio Designs CD Transport,Northstar Designs Excelsio DAC,Cambridge 851N streamer,Marantz SA-14 SACD,McIntosh MC300 Amp,Silnote Morpheus Ref2 Digital Cable,Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner,Pangea Power Cables,Wireworld Oasis 8 RCA IC's,MIT Shotgun S3 IC's,MIT Shotgun S1 Bi-Wire speaker cables
    Office: PC,EAR Acute CD Player,EAR 834L Pre,Northstar Designs Intenso DAC,PASS ACA Monoblocks,Denon UDR-F10 Cassette,Acoustic Technologies Classic FR Speakers,SVS SB12 Plus sub,MIT AVt2 speaker cables,IFI Purifier2,AQ Cinnamon USB cable,Groneberg Quatro Reference IC's
    Spare Room: Antique Sound Labs Wave AV-8 Monoblocks,Tisbury Mini Passive Pre,Tjoeb 99 tube CD player (modified Marantz CD-38),Analysis Plus Oval 9's,Zu Jumpers,AudioEngine B1 Streamer,Klipsch RB-61 v2,SVS PB1000 sub,Blue Jeans RCA IC's
    Living Room: Peachtree Nova Integrated,Cambridge CXN v2 Streamer,Rotel RCD-1072 CD player,Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner,Polk RT265 In Wall Speakers,Polk DSW Pro 660wi sub
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  • dolbyddolbyd Posts: 424
    Awesome. Glad it worked out.
    Main room- RTiA9 x4, CSiA6, in ceiling Atmos RT-70 x4, SVS PC 4000 x2, Marantz 7705, OPPO 203, Emotiva DR3 G3, Emotiva XPA-2 G3, Emotiva XPA-5 G3, Emotiva X300, Sony 75" 940E, Panasonic Plasma VT50, PS Audio Power Port X2, Perfect Wave AC-5 x8, Douglas jumpers, SVS Ultra speaker cables, Transparent IC, Furman PFi20 W/Cullen cable, SoildSteel S4-4 rack, GIK room treatments

    Office-Infinity Kappa 600, Kappa Center, in ceiling Polk RC80i, Marantz 5012, OPPO 203, Pioneer Elite PDF-59 CD, PSA Stellar 300, Sony 510C 48"

    Master BR- LSi7, LSiC, LSI700 in ceiling, SVS-PC 2000, Marantz 7704, Emotiva XPA-5 G2, OPPO 203, Pioneer DVL-919 Laser Disc, Sony 55" 800B

    Patio- SDI Atrium8 x3, Emotiva A-100 amps x3
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