Powering a pre amp....

kevhed72
kevhed72 Posts: 4,950
edited May 2017 in 2 Channel Audio
Curious how many of you run your pre through a power conditioner... as well as, what type of power cord do you use... in terms of brand and awg. I recently upgraded from a stock power cord, and plugged directly into the outlet, only to experience the dreaded ground loop hum...

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  • doctor r
    doctor r Posts: 837
    Presently using Audience PowerChord e cables and Audience conditioner. Interesting that you have a hum appear just from changing away from a stock cable. Does it disappear when you substitute the stock cord back into the system?
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  • jeremymarcinko
    jeremymarcinko Posts: 3,785
    New cable have a ground pin that wasn't there before or is it a shorter cable that's making a quicker path to ground than the original configuration?
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  • Mikey081057
    Mikey081057 Posts: 7,127
    are you routing cable in proximity or crossing over a signal cable?
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,902
    He's not using the power conditioner with the new cord. Chances are the ground loop hum was always there, but once he moved away from it and went directly into the outlet.....hum.

    Plug it back into the conditioner.....or try a cheater plug on it for 2 bucks.
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  • kevhed72
    kevhed72 Posts: 4,950
    are you routing cable in proximity or crossing over a signal cable?
    I have a coupe of MIT network boxes on ICs which are probably too close to an outlet and a power cord. It's my understanding it's better not to cross ICs and power cords at all....or if you had to, don't run them parallel right next to each other.....I forget.
  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,902
    More than likely, too many grounds in one spot. Try separating to another outlet if you can or lift the ground with a cheater plug. Also, it may benefit some to change out the wall outlet if it's still that old construction grade stuff.

    Another cheap way is to run a wire from a screw on the pre to another piece you know has no hum and grounded well. Hum is rarely due to the cable itself, unless it's of very cheap quality.
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  • acmf74
    acmf74 Posts: 936
    I run my Cary Pre and Jolida CDP through a APC power conditioner using Pangea AC 14SE Power Cables. Dead quiet.
  • Mikey081057
    Mikey081057 Posts: 7,127
    kevhed72 wrote: »
    are you routing cable in proximity or crossing over a signal cable?
    I have a coupe of MIT network boxes on ICs which are probably too close to an outlet and a power cord. It's my understanding it's better not to cross ICs and power cords at all....or if you had to, don't run them parallel right next to each other.....I forget.

    Don't cross the streams....
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  • kevhed72
    kevhed72 Posts: 4,950
    kevhed72 wrote: »
    are you routing cable in proximity or crossing over a signal cable?
    I have a coupe of MIT network boxes on ICs which are probably too close to an outlet and a power cord. It's my understanding it's better not to cross ICs and power cords at all....or if you had to, don't run them parallel right next to each other.....I forget.

    Don't cross the streams....

    How close is too close....
  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 24,477
    if you must have them close cross them at 90 degrees