Ripping to a NAS?? Taking too long??
tophatjohnny
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Ripping can be time consuming and often is. I am filing my NAS which has 2 10TB Seagate iron wolf drives. 2-10's doesn't get me 20TB, as they mirror each other and now when I set up to rip a batch, (and the batches are usually no less than 100 and often more) I set up both laptops and have at it. Twice as fast and no issues doing it. Just passing it along as ya never know who else is at it on my level......BTW my level can be summed up with one word
INSANITY!!
Happy Ripping
THJ
INSANITY!!
Happy Ripping
THJ
"if it's not fun, it's not worth it & remember folks, "It's All About The Music"!!
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On a more serious note, I can relate. I added 2 Blu Ray drives to one of my servers so that I can rip 3 Blu Rays or DVDs or CDs at once. Has made a big dent in my recovery work from losing one of my drive arrays a few months ago.
"Unwad those panties and have a good time man. We're all here to help each other, no matter how it might appear." DSkip
I bet you have a copy of Suburban Commando in there somewhere...If not, you should
And I thought I was insane, but on the real...when you actually get to having 10TB's worth of Albums ripped in FLAC, do get with me on the network sharing that we're able to do with the NAS route. Looking forward to trying that!
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This week, I bought a synology nas and used the same 3 3TB iron wolf drives and it is blazingly fast.. I'm running raid 5. The software suit is pretty good.
Im using JRiver for ripping and media server.
I have questions on how to playback dvds and blurays, but that's for another thread.
I sure hope you don't discover a problem with your rip configuration, or discover some preferred option. That's annoying even with just the 12 I got on the deal from Columbia House.
That's alot of time and data to lose without a backup scheme in place that works.
H9: If you don't trust what you are hearing, then maybe you need to be less invested in a hobby which all the pleasure comes from listening to music.
But there isn't really a cost effective consumer level backup solution for multiple TBs of data.
I checked with Amazon and Google for cloud backup options for my current data and the cost is quite literally tens of thousands of dollars *A MONTH*.
In my work environment, we have 14 days of backups of all of our prod hosts along with 90 days worth of backups for our file servers. But even that isn't cost effective in a consumer environment because we are talking multiple UCS environments dedicated *ONLY* to backups.
Most consumers aren't even worried about backup of things like movies and music. Most consumers are worried about pictures and financial records and the like. All of our photos, documents, home videos and the like are saved to a NAS on site and also to a USB drive once a month that is stored off site in a safe deposit box. And honestly, that is quite a bit more than the average consumer is going to do.
But it all boils down to what works/is affordable/meets the individual's needs on a case by case basis.
As annoying as it was to have to re-rip ~600 Blu-rays, it was all relative in the grand scheme of things.
"Unwad those panties and have a good time man. We're all here to help each other, no matter how it might appear." DSkip
Maybe my math is off, but Amazon Glacier for 76TB looks like around $300/mo? Sounds like your data is mostly static, so, not sure you need S3 for infrequent changes, and with Glacier I think you only pay more for retrieval, which you'd only be doing under catastrophic failure?
I know someone who uses CrashPlan. Unlimited, not sure of the subscription fee, but supposed to be affordable.
Wait a minute.... I see a pattern...
Backblaze offers unlimited backup storage with unlimited versions for $95 for 2 years. A viable option...IF I was talking about a few hundred GBs to a couple of TBs.
"Unwad those panties and have a good time man. We're all here to help each other, no matter how it might appear." DSkip
As Ryan said, it all boils down to loss tolerance. The greater the tolerance for loss, the less protection required, and the lower the cost.
For you guys, though, I'd recommend grabbing a free trial of WinRAR, and hit Ebay for some new old stock floppies, and have at it. You should have your data backed up right about the time John finishes ripping the last cd on the planet.
Come on, man, there's no excuse for no backup. you know better
(I say this as I troubleshoot today my secondary backup disk for offloading Acronis snapshots. Out of the blue, starts throwing errors.)
Rip on brothers.
BTW the program I found through a member here is Easy CD converter and I did pay for the program. Very user friendly and I just love it. That's all I can share at this point.
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No one looks over your shoulder when you do the backup. Everyone is looking over your shoulder when you do a restore.
We setup with onsite for speed and offsite for redundancy. Using redundant UltraStores locally and Amazon Glacier. The way we are setup with the redundancy, if we have to revert to Glacier we are looking at a problem that is going to take time to get back up and running by the time the bulk tier option becomes available for us to start pulling down data.
DR (disaster recovery) is a huge concern in IT these days, given vastly lowered tolerance for downtime and expectation of high availability, with budgets that don't always allow for this. Problem is, people generally don't like to spend money on expensive just-in-case doomsday stuff. It's not sexy. It's boring, and people think it won't happen to them, or they'll have new stuff by the time it's a concern. Maybe, maybe not.
My personal [unsolicited] perspective is that if your data is in any way important to you, there are options for varying levels of protection. Doesn't have to be all or nothing, and it doesn't have to be the best on the market. There are ways to get there with a little time and creativity. I've had failures of my own - more than a few over the years - that forced me to look at my own DR coverage. It can happen to anyone, and it's something I'm seeing more and more often, especially with a lot of people switching to notebooks as primary computers over the years. They get bumped and jostled about; mishandled. Well guess what? That's one of the worst things for a mechanical hard drive and one of the reasons notebooks fail prematurely. SSD (solid state) has become more affordable and is coming on strong and making that less of an issue. Anyway, as Ryan details, he's got a solid plan in place for protecting only his most important data. Everyone can and should at least be doing this much.
In your case, John, if not backing up that data anywhere else, maybe you can consider having a spare disk on hand - the exact same model as what you're currently using. When rebuilding a RAID array, there's heavy read/write operations between the disks. The concern here is for failure of a second disk under the rebuild process and losing the array entirely. Not as big a concern for newer hardware, but in older disks, last thing you want is to be feeling relieved about catching a bad disk, and then have a second disk pop under the read stress in rebuilding the array. Definitely a good idea to look into cloud. We've talked about this, so quit avoiding it
Re: the importance of same disks - This can be rare, but sometimes there can be issues with disk firmware mismatch, and it can corrupt the array. This is why I recommend having a spare disk on hand of the exact same model and firmware. Just depends. Consumer RAID systems may not be as picky, but some enterprise stuff is. Err on the side of caution, I say, but I'm paranoid.
Sorry for the length/rant. DR is something I'm passionate about. Trying to help prevent people having to suffer the horrible regret of not being protected against hardware failures, and to share that DR isn't just for big business anymore.
In a mirrored RAID configuration - whatever operation happens on the primary disk happens to the mirror disk. You delete a file, then it's deleted from the mirror.
RAID mirroring protects you from a disk failure to give you continued access to your data - it enhances 'availability' and reduces downtime to your data because the mirror will 'take over', but it is NOT a "backup".
H9: If you don't trust what you are hearing, then maybe you need to be less invested in a hobby which all the pleasure comes from listening to music.
To me, the best protection, the best way to avoid dealing with DR, is to have the physical media as the backup. Those worried about the internet going away or EMT blasts,
Speaking music files, other data files is a different story.
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I get your point though - I'll never give up my physical media....ever.
H9: If you don't trust what you are hearing, then maybe you need to be less invested in a hobby which all the pleasure comes from listening to music.
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Back-up is definitely an issue once you accumulate a library of that size.
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