A suggestion to Micah!

I'm thinking that if you've got serious audio questions, you'd prolly wanna be on the technical forum. If you're going ask opinions and stuff, you'd be here on this forum.

If you're just gonna be a wacko and post any old idiotic thing, you'll prolly be here, or there. Or in the movie forum. Or the car forum.

There's no way to "keep things sacred." Like I said in a previous post, you all get the forum you deserve. I wish like hell that we'd discuss audio things, or at least wacky things in a civil manner, but I can't force anyone to do anything except be civil, and for the most part we have been.

Sorry to be such a spoil-sport, but it gets tiring. And when we chase people away from this forum it gets annoying. And then it's just us three monkeys here and we keep throwing the same **** at each other. We need to shape up.

MC

Gee - i thought the robot - Star Trek/Borg - 2001 thing was more fun than the you're an **** because you don't like my speakers threads. I guess that makes me a loser. So be it. But if you notice all of the robot stuff is based on the movies we spend a bunch of money on to watch. Too bad we can't have some fun with it.

kanicker - No I was aware of what you were saying - I was referred to as a loser in another post.

What is Matthew-Borg ?

I don't have a problem listoning to Klipsch. Includes Metallica! I find that the polks were to laid back and soft for my tasts.

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Anyone know when Metallicas new CD is coming out????THANKS!

I actually believe Shack's description is very accurate.

The sound was extremely accurate in the high and mid range. Sort of like listening to a trumpet right in front of you. Very straightforward without any sense of acoustics or subtlety.

That is exactly what I like about them. You don't sit in front of them thinking "does that sound like a trumpet?" -- you're just listening to the trumpet!

One thing I have found is that they always sound mediocre and bright in demo rooms, where there is very little sound absorbing material. When you get them in a living room with furniture and drapes they sing.

OTOH -- most other speakers do indeed sound better than Klipsch in the demo room. But when they are set up at home it's as if the life has been sucked out of them.

I like the sound of direct radiating loudspeakers when they are in sparsely furnished rooms with blinds instead of drapes. They really open up more on the top. That's pretty much what I plan to do when I get the LSi9's -- give them lot's of space around the speakers.

As far as listening fatigue goes -- I absolutely believe in it, especially with horns. Horns have a jeckle and Hyde aspect to them. I personally think they can sound a little gritty with anything less than some decent tubes or better than average solid state. The RB5's should have sounded pretty good on that Denon --

Sometimes I miss the warmth of a 'normal' speaker, but when I go listen to them -- I decide I like accuracy better than warmth. I easily tame 'the brightness' (which is actually a by-product of extreme clarity) with tubes. Then, to further balance the output of the horn -- I run a good sub.

I don't know what Metallica you heard, but the 'black' CD, though extremely well recorded -- tends towards some brightness anyways.

At any rate, as an experiment -- the next time you go in there, have them put that same CD on and crank it -- and then leave the room. Put some distance between you and those speakers. What you will find out is that it is not the speaker sounding to bright. What you will find out is that when you leave the room or back away -- they sound much better.

Again, look at this chart.



64 watts on RB5's is like almost 300 watts through LSi9's.

Most of the fatique comes from it just being to loud for a two-way -- which is after all what all the Klipsch Reference Series are. There is alot of IM at those SPL's and the midrange just goes to ****. Put 250 watts or more into some LSi9's and I bet they sound like **** too (if they don't melt down first).

As far as comparing speakers goes -- without proper matching of the volume levels -- the comparison isn't really valid. Get a Rat Shack SPL meter for $40 and sit it on the chair in the demo room. Then compare.

Now, what do I expect to hear when I get those LSi9's as compared to what I have now?

I expect them to be tight, with a nice buttoned up sound. The top end will be smooth and extended. They won't be as 'shouty' as the Klipsch. I expect the bass guitar to sound fat in a nice way and the drums to have good 'pace' -- they will certainly not be as dynamic as the Klipsch or as open -- but it should be a sweet sound. I will think them to be a little too soft at first -- but will probably run KT88's instead of EL-34's and bring the midrange forward a little.

Folks -- this is ALL ear candy. We may have our preferences -- but it's nice to expand and experiment with different stuff. If it's clean -- it all sounds good. My favorite ice cream is Chocolate Chip -- but I dabble in Butter Pecan often.

Some of you guys have went and listened to something you may have never listened if I hadn't jumped on here and annoyed the bunch of you. I respect the hell out of guys for doing that. I sensed that about the folks here and that's one of the reasons I like to hang out here. The Klipsch site is great -- but sometimes I just get burnt out on all the techy stuff.

One thing for sure -- you have come back with opinions that are now grounded in real experience. You've heard them and have come back and said -- "Hey, not bad...but not my thing." I haven't heard anyone come back and say "WTF...those sound like total crap." -- which is pretty much what you thought about them when I first showed up here:)

Happy listening
Klipsch Out

That's right!