Is it worth replacing my PSW505 with an SVS PB1000 or SB1000

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afterburnt
afterburnt Posts: 7,892
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Would it be a noticeable improvement or do I have to spend more?
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  • ken brydson
    ken brydson Posts: 8,650
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    Huge improvement IMO...
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  • gudnoyez
    gudnoyez Posts: 8,066
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    If you got the funds I wouldn't hesitate get one of those SVS's huge improvement.
    Home Theater
    Parasound Halo A 31 OnkyoTX-NR838 Sony XBR55X850B 55" 4K RtiA9 Fronts CsiA6 Center RtiA3 Rears FxiA6 Side Surrounds Dual Psw 111's Oppo 105D Signal Ultra Speaker Cables & IC's Signal Magic Power Cable Technics SL Q300 Panamax MR4300 Audioquest Chocolate HDMI Cables Audioquest Forest USB Cable

    2 Channel
    Adcom 555II Vincent SA-T1 Marantz SA 15S2 Denon DR-M11 Clearaudio Bluemotion SDA 2.3tl's (Z) edition MIT Terminator II Speaker Cables & IC's Adcom 545II Adcom Gtp-450 Marantz CD5004 Technics M245X SDA 2B's, SDA CRS+

    Stuff for the Head
    JD LABS C5 Headphone Amplifier, Sennheiser HD 598, Polk Audio Buckle, Polk Audio Hinge, Velodyne vPulse, Bose IE2, Sennheiser CX 200 Street II, Sennheiser MX 365

    Shower & Off the beaten path Rigs
    Polk Audio Boom Swimmer, Polk Audio Urchin B)
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  • afterburnt
    afterburnt Posts: 7,892
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    which one is better for HT and Music?
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  • gudnoyez
    gudnoyez Posts: 8,066
    edited February 2015
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    Depends get the SB if you plan to use it more for music get the PB if you plan to use it more for HT. I myself would get the sealed SVS.
    Home Theater
    Parasound Halo A 31 OnkyoTX-NR838 Sony XBR55X850B 55" 4K RtiA9 Fronts CsiA6 Center RtiA3 Rears FxiA6 Side Surrounds Dual Psw 111's Oppo 105D Signal Ultra Speaker Cables & IC's Signal Magic Power Cable Technics SL Q300 Panamax MR4300 Audioquest Chocolate HDMI Cables Audioquest Forest USB Cable

    2 Channel
    Adcom 555II Vincent SA-T1 Marantz SA 15S2 Denon DR-M11 Clearaudio Bluemotion SDA 2.3tl's (Z) edition MIT Terminator II Speaker Cables & IC's Adcom 545II Adcom Gtp-450 Marantz CD5004 Technics M245X SDA 2B's, SDA CRS+

    Stuff for the Head
    JD LABS C5 Headphone Amplifier, Sennheiser HD 598, Polk Audio Buckle, Polk Audio Hinge, Velodyne vPulse, Bose IE2, Sennheiser CX 200 Street II, Sennheiser MX 365

    Shower & Off the beaten path Rigs
    Polk Audio Boom Swimmer, Polk Audio Urchin B)
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  • gfong
    gfong Posts: 1,079
    edited February 2015
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    Huge improvement, night and day for sure. Bigger sound no booming, instant cracks when needed and not muddled at all. Polk subs work nice, I've had two of them but no comparison to an SVS or other higher end make. Note I don't use my SVS for music.
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  • afterburnt
    afterburnt Posts: 7,892
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    I ordered the PB1000 as suggested by the folks at SVS. They said it would be the best sub for both HT and Music.
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  • sgray3
    sgray3 Posts: 7
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    I have been wondering the same and almost everywhere I look, i see the same response!

    I used to have the Bose Acoustimass 10 and so the 505 was a dramatic difference for me!
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  • ken brydson
    ken brydson Posts: 8,650
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    You won't be disappointed. Pic's and review are required though you know...
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  • OldSchoolPolk
    OldSchoolPolk Posts: 159
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    I had a Polk sub, though can't remember the model number, and it never grabbed me. I had a hard time integrating it to my system and was always having to cut/boost volume and try different placements. Stopped using it after a year and went w/o a sub for 5 years.

    I saw the new flock of online subs a few years ago and decided to go with the SVS PB1000. It really has been an improvement in so many ways and the SVS company has been great to work with.

    SVS steered you right, in suggesting the PB1000 as it does have much greater output than the SB1000.

    Enjoy it!
    HT: Marantz NR-1603, Oppo 981, Def Tech SM55, SVS PB-1000
    BR: iPad Mini, Audio Engine A5+
    2C: Parasound ZDAC V.2, Sony DA80ES, Sony XDR-F1HD, SVS Prime Tower, JSE .6 Infinite Slope
    Office: MBAir, Focusrite Scarlett 2i2, JBL LSR-308
    Projects: Polk RTA12, Polk Monitor 7, Revox B225CD, BIC 3-TM
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,906
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    Is it worth it ?

    Does a bear sh$t in the woods ?
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1420
    lsi 9's
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  • Mystery
    Mystery Posts: 2,546
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    tonyb wrote: »
    Is it worth it ?

    Does a bear sh$t in the woods ?

    What if the bear is potty trained? ;)

    Klipsch RB81, KG3.5, B&W DM602.5, Polk.
    Subwoofers: Klipsch RW10, Triad ProSub Bronze.
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,906
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    Mystery wrote: »
    tonyb wrote: »
    Is it worth it ?

    Does a bear sh$t in the woods ?

    What if the bear is potty trained? ;)

    Yeah well, if you can do that....money for a new sub wouldn't be an issue.

    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1420
    lsi 9's
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  • voltz
    voltz Posts: 5,384
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    I replaced a PSW125 with Ricks SVS's I bought and it just digs deeper, Going back to the "Darla Scene" Ken & Halo brought up, it almost shook everything off the walls. I'm happy with the change up.
    2 ch- Polk CRS+ * Vincent SA-31MK Preamp * Vincent Sp-331 Amp * Marantz SA8005 SACD * Project Xperience Classic TT * Sumiko Blue Point #2 MC cartridge

    HT - Polk 703's * NAD T-758 * Adcom 5503 * Oppo 103 * Samsung 60" series 8 LCD
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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
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    I just looked on SVS and discovered that they have a system called Merlin that will help match the correct SVS with your speakers. Here is what Merlin told me to match with my RTA-8Ts.


    Here are the best SVS subwoofers for your Polk Audio RTA-8T Floorstanding Loudspeaker :


    PB-2000 / $ 799.99


    Perfect for demanding music and movie applications in mid-size rooms.
    ◾Ported Box
    ◾12" 2000-series driver
    ◾500W (1100W Peak)
    ◾22" x 19.75" x 25.2" (HWD)
    ◾17-260Hz ± 3 dB


    PC-2000 / $ 799.99


    Similar performance as the PB-2000 - but with a minimal footprint!
    ◾Ported Cylinder
    ◾12" 2000-series driver
    ◾500W (1100W Peak)
    ◾16.6" x 34" (OD, H)
    ◾16-260 Hz ± 3 dB

    SB-2000 / $ 699.99


    Compact dynamite! Punchy, musical bass perfect for mid-size rooms.
    ◾Sealed Box
    ◾12" 2000-series driver
    ◾500W (1100W Peak)
    ◾14.2" x 14.2" x 14.2" (HWD)
    ◾19-220 Hz ± 3 dB


    Marantz AV-7705 PrePro, Classé 5 channel 200wpc Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony XBR-49X800E TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Polk ES30 Center Channel, Polk S15 Surround Speakers SVS SB12-NSD x2
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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 10,716
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    which brings up the question, has anyone tried the
    ported cylinder?
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  • ken brydson
    ken brydson Posts: 8,650
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    rednedtugent wrote: »
    which brings up the question, has anyone tried the
    ported cylinder?

    Not the new one with the single rear port but my 25-31PC+ has 3 top mounted ports. It is amazing.

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  • Thorton
    Thorton Posts: 1,324
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    Cathy, the Merlin tool is cool. I'd suggest the OP give them a call. They have great technical people to assist you with exactly what you're looking for.
    _____________________________________________________________________________________________
    Ethernet Filter: GigaFOILv4 with Keces P3 LPS
    Source: Roon via ethernet to DAC interface
    DAC: Bricasti M1SE
    Pre/Pro: Marantz AV8805
    Tube Preamp Buffer: Tortuga TPB.V1
    Amp1: Nord One NC1200DM Signature, Amp2: W4S MC-5, AMP3: W4S MMC-7
    Front: Salk SoundScape 8's, Center: Salk SoundScape C7
    Surround: Polk FXIA6, Surround Back: Polk RTIA9, Atmos: Polk 70-RT
    Subs: 2 - Rythmik F25's
    IC & Speaker Cables: Acoustic Zen, Wireworld, Signal Cable
    Power Cables: Acoustic Zen, Wireworld, PS Audio
    Room Treatments: GIK Acoustics
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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 10,716
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    Yeah I used the tool and I'm in for at least $1,200.00 :p
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  • afterburnt
    afterburnt Posts: 7,892
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    I never saw the Merlin thing until now. It suggest the PB-2000/PC-2000. I just got the PB-1000 and it is really nice. Maybe before the year is out I can upgrade to a 2000 although I am pretty pleased with the 1000 for the little listening I have don so far.
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  • Inspector 24
    Inspector 24 Posts: 1,308
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    If you're spending that kind of money check out the HSU's. Performance for the buck the new VTF3 Mk5 and VTF15h Mk2 seem hard to beat.
    Up
    LSi15 LSiC - RX-V3000

    Down
    LSiM707 - 706c - 702f/x - Dual HSU VTF-15H Mk2
    Parasound HCA-3500 - HCA-2003A - Marantz SR7005
    Sim2 D60 - Dragonfly 106" Panny 500

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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 10,716
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    what he said.
    Inspector 24 wrote: »
    If you're spending that kind of money check out the HSU's. Performance for the buck the new VTF3 Mk5 and VTF15h Mk2 seem hard to beat.

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  • OldSchoolPolk
    OldSchoolPolk Posts: 159
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    I found the SVS's Merlin tool the only thing about SVS and their website that I was NOT impressed with.

    I put in a number of different monitors at random and I got essentially the same recommendations for each one. EVERYTHING else about SVS is top notch but I just could not understand the benefit of having fields you plug in your info in and get a questionable recommendation. I would think there would be too many variables.

    On the other hand, every time I called SVS I got a quick response, great technical info, not a hint of a hard sell, and the friendliest people. Thats part of what sold me.

    I'm saving for a SB2000 for my 18x24 bonus room
    HT: Marantz NR-1603, Oppo 981, Def Tech SM55, SVS PB-1000
    BR: iPad Mini, Audio Engine A5+
    2C: Parasound ZDAC V.2, Sony DA80ES, Sony XDR-F1HD, SVS Prime Tower, JSE .6 Infinite Slope
    Office: MBAir, Focusrite Scarlett 2i2, JBL LSR-308
    Projects: Polk RTA12, Polk Monitor 7, Revox B225CD, BIC 3-TM
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  • afterburnt
    afterburnt Posts: 7,892
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    Inspector 24 wrote: »
    If you're spending that kind of money check out the HSU's. Performance for the buck the new VTF3 Mk5 and VTF15h Mk2 seem hard to beat.

    I am kind of locked in on the upgrade path. SVS will let me trade up within a year. All I need to do is find the addition 300 bucks and send this one back to them for the PB2000 although I may be perfectly happy with this PB1000 it does really well with music so far and I wonder if I would lose some of that with the 12 inch driver of the PB2000.

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  • afterburnt
    afterburnt Posts: 7,892
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    I forgot that I do have 45 day to return it.
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  • quicksilvergts
    quicksilvergts Posts: 274
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    Well if it's any help. I drove over 200 miles to get my PB12 (Bash) sub last year. BEST 200+ miles yet lol.

    I came from twin 505's and being modest, the PB12 absolutely crushes both 505's in EVERY way.

    I feel totally confident as I could just ditch the tower speakers and use the sub with nice bookshelves. But I am. Just accustomed to the tower listening.

    Ever way, PB1000/PB2000. Should please you
    in theater AND music

    Cheers!!
    Polk Lsi9
    Polk LsiC
    Polk Fxi3
    Pioneer SC-1222
    Parasound 1200 II w/ Kimber Kable HERO + 4TC
    SVS PB12-NSD (Bash)
    PS4
    Sharp Aquos 55"


    "If your BOLD enough to try it,
    your BOLD enough to make it happen"
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  • mikeyb128
    mikeyb128 Posts: 2,885
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    I had 2 psw 505's and loved them. I made a huge upgrade with Polks dsw series. I know have dual ultras. They are incredible! Better than the imax. Highly recommend svs! My buddy is on the same path and is interested in a pb2000. DO IT! And don't look back! But please consider a hsu vtf 15-H for the money.
    2 channel:
    Bryston 4B3, Bryston BDA3, Cary SLP05, Shanling CDT1000SE with parts conneXion level 2 mods, Nottingham analogue ace space 294, soundsmith Carmen MKii, Zu DL103 MKii, Ortofon MC 20 MKii, Dynavector XX2 MKii, Rogue Audio Ares, Core power technologies balanced power conditioner, Akiko Corelli power conditioner with Akiko Audio HQ power cable, Nordost heimdall 2, Frey 2, interconnects, speaker and power cables, Focal Electra 1028 BE 2, Auralic Aries Femto, Black diamond racing cones, ingress audio level 1 roller blocks, JL Audio E110 with Auralic subdude, Primacoustics room treatments.
    Theater:
    Focal Aria 926,905,CC900, SVS PB ultra x2. Pioneer Elite SC85, Oppo BDP93, Panamax M5400PM, Minix neox6, Nordost Blue heaven LS power cables.

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  • afterburnt
    afterburnt Posts: 7,892
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    I think I need more sub. This PB1000 is quite an improvement over the PSW505 but to get close to the output level I want I am running it close to max volume. The folks at SVS said that this is ok but I think I would be better served with the PB2000. I sure dont want to go through packing this up a shipping it back. I wonder if I should keep it and get second one down the road or go for a single PB2000 or even the HSU VTF-3 MK5. I lean toward the SVS just for the 5 year warranty. What do you guys think?
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  • ken brydson
    ken brydson Posts: 8,650
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    afterburnt wrote: »
    I think I need more sub. This PB1000 is quite an improvement over the PSW505 but to get close to the output level I want I am running it close to max volume. The folks at SVS said that this is ok but I think I would be better served with the PB2000. I sure dont want to go through packing this up a shipping it back. I wonder if I should keep it and get second one down the road or go for a single PB2000 or even the HSU VTF-3 MK5. I lean toward the SVS just for the 5 year warranty. What do you guys think?

    Return shipping is free, as is shipping on the 2000. What you got to lose?

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  • mikeyb128
    mikeyb128 Posts: 2,885
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    I would send it back. It's far worse to be left Unsatisfied or sitting there wondering, what if?
    2 channel:
    Bryston 4B3, Bryston BDA3, Cary SLP05, Shanling CDT1000SE with parts conneXion level 2 mods, Nottingham analogue ace space 294, soundsmith Carmen MKii, Zu DL103 MKii, Ortofon MC 20 MKii, Dynavector XX2 MKii, Rogue Audio Ares, Core power technologies balanced power conditioner, Akiko Corelli power conditioner with Akiko Audio HQ power cable, Nordost heimdall 2, Frey 2, interconnects, speaker and power cables, Focal Electra 1028 BE 2, Auralic Aries Femto, Black diamond racing cones, ingress audio level 1 roller blocks, JL Audio E110 with Auralic subdude, Primacoustics room treatments.
    Theater:
    Focal Aria 926,905,CC900, SVS PB ultra x2. Pioneer Elite SC85, Oppo BDP93, Panamax M5400PM, Minix neox6, Nordost Blue heaven LS power cables.

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  • drselect
    drselect Posts: 664
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    Might want to check out the SB12-NSD. They are running a special on it right now.
    http://www.svsound.com/SB12-NSD
    Looks like its a step between the 1000 and 2000.
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