RTiA9 questions, home theater and rock

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I'm assuming the A9 is a bad mamma jamma for rock music but how does it handle home theater? Are voices accurate? A pet peeve of mine is a boxed in sound and boomy male voices. How are Polk's in general with this? Also what centers are you supposed to pair with the things?

Looking for a large tower that can sound killer on rock music with bass guitar and drums, while maintaining very good off-axis response, very accurate voices, a non-shrilly upper end, and I prefer it to be real wood veneer and no silver highlights. Anybody have a better idea than the A9? Can you take those silver feet off?

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  • scotvl
    scotvl Posts: 88
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    Ive only had mine for a month powered by 125wpc pioneer D3 receiver and they sound great for music and home theater listening. Voices come through loud and clear through the A9s, I'm not using a center speaker either just the A9s up front and rti4s for rears. I am saving up for a good 2 channel amp for the A9s so I can really push them for music. They have gobs of bass and that great Polk smooth midrange and crisp highs that make dialogue come through clear and loud.
  • PSOVLSK
    PSOVLSK Posts: 5,105
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    Reference Theater improved

    I'm guessing on the "i", but I believe it's strength lies in home theater while also being very good for music.

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  • MetropolisLake
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    DSkip wrote: »
    Speaker budget? Do you have an amp already? Give us the details.

    Budget don't matter much if staying with Polks. It would be powered by a Marantz SR-7009 for now and before too long a Marantz amp. Smallish room 10.5' from my screen but I have a wide row of four seats, I can't have pinpoint finnicky imaging, need to cast a wide net.
  • MetropolisLake
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    DSkip wrote: »
    Have you seen how deep those a9's are? I don't think they'll work in your space.

    They're 5" deeper than the Klipsch RF-7ii's I'm running now, with probably half of that being that weird grill for the port. These or whatever else I get will probably end up in my 31'x32' living room for party duty but I'm wanting to swap them out in my theater room for awhile as to have something to compare the RF-7ii's to.
  • rpf65
    rpf65 Posts: 2,127
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    Can't have those A9's against the wall. Plan on, at a minimum 18 inches. Maybe a little large for the theater room, great for the living room.
    Believe the DSkip's comment was for the theater room.
  • MetropolisLake
    MetropolisLake Posts: 128
    edited January 2015
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    The Monitor 75T had caught my eye until I saw it only weighed 47 pounds. :) I like the idea of it. Was hoping for a front ported something or another anyway. Am afraid the LSI stuff is way too modern looking for my place. I'm not sure what other choices I have, its either deal with that rear port, downgrade to the 75T or 550T, or put a modern LSI in a pirate themed room and/or beach house living room which is probably just really weird.
  • Farkenhostile
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    You don't get that boomy sound from deep male voices but will get excellent bass out of them. The whole reason i went deep into home theater was because cheap systems and boomy voices like that used to drive me nuts.

    I used to love music and crappy speakers/avr's just about killed it for me. now there are times when I'm playing music and I'm in awe of the sound and just sit there staring the wall with my mouth open.
  • MetropolisLake
    MetropolisLake Posts: 128
    edited January 2015
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    rpf65 wrote: »
    Can't have those A9's against the wall. Plan on, at a minimum 18 inches. Maybe a little large for the theater room, great for the living room.
    Believe the DSkip's comment was for the theater room.

    Even if you have the space, who wants to have speakers sticking out 40" or more into your room? I guess that's the thing to do among audiophiles who like a flat response but I never would.
  • scotvl
    scotvl Posts: 88
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    I have mine a couple inches from the wall and they sound great, I thought that was why they had the inverted cone port filter on the back.
  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,911
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    The 9's are great HT speaks and should do well also on Rock music. The Marantz gear is a good match for them also but you might want to look into a warmer sounding cable too to tame down those highs a bit, if your already not using one that is.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 49,880
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    The power port on the rear of the RTiA series was designed, in part, to allow the speaker to be placed close to the back wall.
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  • MetropolisLake
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    I tried to read about the port but outside of a few marketing sentences there doesn't seem to be much in way of explaining the science and recommendations on placement, just that its cool and stuff.
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 49,880
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    It's a tuned port that shapes the sound waves so that they don't bounce off the back wall. Very clever.
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,911
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    Is that kinda like blocking one nostril when you sneeze so you don't spray anyone on your left ?
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    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

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    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

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    Grant Fidelity tube dac
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  • MetropolisLake
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    Based on some diagrams I figured that grill kinda dissipated the sound waves in all directions rather than letting it fire straight backwards. That may be too simplistic of an explanation though.
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 49,880
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    tonyb wrote: »
    Is that kinda like blocking one nostril when you sneeze so you don't spray anyone on your left ?

    More like farting with your arse raised slightly off the seat.

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  • ken brydson
    ken brydson Posts: 8,660
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    F1nut wrote: »
    tonyb wrote: »
    Is that kinda like blocking one nostril when you sneeze so you don't spray anyone on your left ?

    More like farting with your arse raised slightly off the seat.
    Called a "one cheek sneak"....

  • scotvl
    scotvl Posts: 88
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    F1nut wrote: »
    It's a tuned port that shapes the sound waves so that they don't bounce off the back wall. Very clever.

    Bingo and it works great, the A9s push a lot of air.
  • gp4jesus
    gp4jesus Posts: 1,969
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    Like F1 said, you can't place them any closer than about 3" - the power port prevents that. And it's design is such that, except in corners, rear wall distance from the back matters little.

    Experiment. Though I'd be surprised if you hear a difference w/the rear baffle measuring a foot or more away.

    Be more concerned w/side wall distance, room treatments, etc. Use those spikes when you decide on their placement.
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  • scotvl
    scotvl Posts: 88
    edited January 2015
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    DSkip wrote: »
    Apparently my comment has been construed that these need to be out in the room. That wasn't what I was saying. I was simply saying that the depth of the a9 can be surprising, and you need to consider that footprint before buying them, especially in an already small room.

    It wasn't you or anyone else I was referring to, Ive read this on other forums and amazon reviews. While it may help in a dedicated theater room I just don't have the space in my 12' wide room. I was just letting the OP know that I thought mine still sound great a few inches from the wall, the front of my A9s are flush with my entertainment cabinet and look stunning strutting their stuff.
  • Inspector 24
    Inspector 24 Posts: 1,308
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    The only thing I've found the A9's to suck at is live recorded orchestral music. Of course that could be the fault of the recording and/or associated gear. And by suck at it I mean it's the thing they do least well. Beyond that I've found them to be quite versatile as long as you feed them power, a solid high current 200wpc source is plenty, but more is always better in smaller increments.

    Right now, I cannot imagine myself wanting more from a home theater/must do everything speaker.

    For a dedicated music speaker I would look elsewhere.
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  • gp4jesus
    gp4jesus Posts: 1,969
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    "I cannot imagine myself wanting more from a home theater/must do everything speaker."

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  • Inspector 24
    Inspector 24 Posts: 1,308
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    Aha...I see what you did there.

    Touché. :)
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