Amp's recommended for A9's

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CinderLyon
CinderLyon Posts: 108
edited August 2013 in Electronics
What brands of amp's are suggested in the $1000 range that will drive a pair of A9's
Fronts: Polk RTiA9
Center: Polk CSiA4
Sides: Polk F/XiA6
Rears: Polk RtiA3
Sub:Polk DSWPRO 660wi

extras: 2x JBL Monitor 4206

AVR: Marantz Cinema 50
Amp: Hypex UcD400 Class D, 2 Channels
Power Conditioner: Belkin PureAV Home Theater Power Console pf60
Many different streamers, Heos, firestick, apple
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  • Inspector 24
    Inspector 24 Posts: 1,308
    edited July 2013
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    Parasound, Rotel, Adcom. Pick something with 200wpc minimum.
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  • Drenis
    Drenis Posts: 2,871
    edited July 2013
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    I see you already have a GFA-555 Adcom amp in your list of gear. Is it really not enough? Start looking high power Class D amps then with your budget if you need more.

    I ran a Carver TFM-42 on my A9's when I owned them and that was MORE than enough power (375wRMS/ch).

    B&K amps synergize well with A9's too.
  • B Run
    B Run Posts: 1,888
    edited July 2013
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    Out of those 5 amp brands given you can't really go wrong, they should all get the job done and sound great. If it's 100% home theater use i'd throw Emotiva in there too, but don't want to get your thread shut down :biggrin:
  • snake1
    snake1 Posts: 567
    edited July 2013
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    I can speak for parasound's,, they came highly recommended from this forum. I have a 2250 myself. Also I spoke with Parasound's Richard Schram, who spoke very highly of pairing it with my 12's which are almost identical to your 9's. Also, you could check on parasound hca-3500. They can usually be had not far out of your price range and PLENTY pf power! 120 amps/ch and 350wpc. I have toyed with switching to one myself. My .02 for ya.
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  • Msabot1
    Msabot1 Posts: 2,098
    edited July 2013
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  • CinderLyon
    CinderLyon Posts: 108
    edited July 2013
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    Not really sure. Value is first concern. Music and HT use 50:50 I do not even think I am in the market but i thought i would ask around and start doing some research. I am pretty happy with my Adcom atm. My Adcom is 20 years old now. Have things changed all the much?
    Fronts: Polk RTiA9
    Center: Polk CSiA4
    Sides: Polk F/XiA6
    Rears: Polk RtiA3
    Sub:Polk DSWPRO 660wi

    extras: 2x JBL Monitor 4206

    AVR: Marantz Cinema 50
    Amp: Hypex UcD400 Class D, 2 Channels
    Power Conditioner: Belkin PureAV Home Theater Power Console pf60
    Many different streamers, Heos, firestick, apple
  • CinderLyon
    CinderLyon Posts: 108
    edited July 2013
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    i just made a lowball bid for a gfa 555 amp on a bidding site. I figure if one is good two will be better :)
    Fronts: Polk RTiA9
    Center: Polk CSiA4
    Sides: Polk F/XiA6
    Rears: Polk RtiA3
    Sub:Polk DSWPRO 660wi

    extras: 2x JBL Monitor 4206

    AVR: Marantz Cinema 50
    Amp: Hypex UcD400 Class D, 2 Channels
    Power Conditioner: Belkin PureAV Home Theater Power Console pf60
    Many different streamers, Heos, firestick, apple
  • Drenis
    Drenis Posts: 2,871
    edited July 2013
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    CinderLyon wrote: »
    i just made a lowball bid for a gfa 555 amp on a bidding site. I figure if one is good two will be better :)

    You may disagree with that statement once you hear the result. IIRC, the Adcoms never faired well when bridged. If that's what you want, buy a proper pair of monoblocks.
  • Msabot1
    Msabot1 Posts: 2,098
    edited July 2013
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    DUDE...EVERYTHING Changes in a second..let alone twenty years...PEACE!!
  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited July 2013
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    You are worried about something happening to your 20 year old amp so went out and bought another just as old???:eek::confused:
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  • leftwinger57
    leftwinger57 Posts: 2,917
    edited July 2013
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    I don't know how less or more effcient those A9s are compared to my 2bs but w/ my Adcom 555 at 12 pos on the pre it's scarey loud and do not want blow these up.It's a very clean powerful amp and should be enough to push those A9s
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  • Dawgfish
    Dawgfish Posts: 2,554
    edited July 2013
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    Actually the RTi-12s/A9s respond very well to biamping (not running bridged, but vertical passive biamping). I used to own a pair of RTi-12s and they never sounded as good as they did when biamped coincidently with GFA-555s. The bass is astounding. The A9s will take everything two 555s will give them and then some. If you end up winning the auction, you will like the results, just make sure you use the same brand, type, and length of speaker cables and ICs with each amp.

    Having said all of that, the others have brought up some legitimate concerns. The 555s are getting a little long in the tooth and the caps are known to leak and go bad over time. If the caps haven't been updated in the amps, I would strongly consider doing so.

    The other thing is neither the 555s or A9s are known for being warm sounding. The combination of the two is a little bright to my ears. Ymmv however, it's I personal thing. I personally think A9s pair well with warmer sounding amps like B&K or Parasound. Again ymmv.
  • CinderLyon
    CinderLyon Posts: 108
    edited July 2013
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    Well I am trying to seek justification for replacing my amp i suppose. It works. it works darn well. It has as much volume as I would ever need. It is getting old. I have not replace the capacitors. It is not leaking. It or the combo is a bit over the top on bright on some music.
    I am wondering what a new amp really buys me. It does not help to say dude everything has changed. A little more specificity would be helpful. What types of amps do folks like to use. Put all my money into Strong 2 speaker. or strong 3 speaker. I know everyone has their own particular take on this...

    It will be a month before i even do this so lots of research. I am leaning towards just waiting till my amp dies.


    And I lost the bid. :)
    Fronts: Polk RTiA9
    Center: Polk CSiA4
    Sides: Polk F/XiA6
    Rears: Polk RtiA3
    Sub:Polk DSWPRO 660wi

    extras: 2x JBL Monitor 4206

    AVR: Marantz Cinema 50
    Amp: Hypex UcD400 Class D, 2 Channels
    Power Conditioner: Belkin PureAV Home Theater Power Console pf60
    Many different streamers, Heos, firestick, apple
  • sagasa
    sagasa Posts: 127
    edited July 2013
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    I will recommend Emotiva XPR 2 your A9 will love it. If you want to hear your speakers full potential this is the
    Amp. I did it to my Rti12 the result was amazing. I use mine more on home theater that is where this speakers
    Shine..
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    Center: Tekton Pendragon
    Surr.: Fxi5
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  • Habanero Monk
    Habanero Monk Posts: 715
    edited July 2013
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    I use a Yamaha P2500S. It can be obtained for around $400 and I had zero risk in evaluating it since GC has a 30 day return policy. It replaced my Marantz Mono-blocks. Really allowed the Lsi 9's to open up
  • Dawgfish
    Dawgfish Posts: 2,554
    edited July 2013
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    Another option (and the one I would recommend) is running a tube pre with Ht pass-through (like an Anthem PRE-2L). This will allow you to keep your current set-up for HT, but also use a dedicated tube pre for two channel music listening. The tube pre will go a long ways towards taming the brightness( especially running warmer sounding tubes) and will be light years better for music. It really gives you the best of both worlds, far better two channel performance while retaining your ht setup.
  • jumpindick
    jumpindick Posts: 428
    edited July 2013
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    I would say parasound halo series. I have one driving rti a9s and it does a great job.
  • GFOviedo
    GFOviedo Posts: 352
    edited July 2013
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    sagasa wrote: »
    I will recommend Emotiva XPR 2 your A9 will love it. If you want to hear your speakers full potential this is the
    Amp. I did it to my Rti12 the result was amazing. I use mine more on home theater that is where this speakers
    Shine..

    I was also going to suggest Emotiva. They seem to be the best bang for your $$$.
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  • nguyendot
    nguyendot Posts: 3,594
    edited July 2013
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    Used is best bang for your buck, actually. Emotiva is just one of many brands. Personally I think they look good and have a good price. A used Rotel or Parasound might be better however.
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,906
    edited July 2013
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    With RTI's, you'll want an amp on the warmer side of neutral. B&K, Parrasound fit that bill and are more musical than some other bargain brands. Certainly there are no shortage of amps to try, but the 2 I mentioned will put a grin on your face not easily removed for years to come.
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  • drummer86
    drummer86 Posts: 441
    edited July 2013
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    Used is definitely the best bang/buck ratio if you're patient. I'd go the monoblock route if it were my money... or maybe a Parasound HCA-2200. Plenty of options under a grand. Best thing about used is you can usually sell them for about what you paid, again, if you're patient.
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  • 4xoddic
    4xoddic Posts: 372
    edited August 2013
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    I've read many of the posts on this forum re: RTia9s. In 2009, I began with Polk RTia9 X 4, CSi5 & FXi6 X 2 powered by a Pioneer SC-07 (140 W x 7).

    After the many posts re:external amp bringing the a9s alive; I read too much & convinced myself to go that route. In Sept. 2012, I installed a QSC GX7 pro amp, with the main a9s @ getting 740 Watts RMS @ 8 Ohms. Note: there is some skepticism that the GX7 could actually be putting out 740 Watts RMS. All I know is that the result has made 2 channel listening much more enjoyable = seeming to tame some of the "brightness."
  • CinderLyon
    CinderLyon Posts: 108
    edited August 2013
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    4xoddic wrote: »
    I've read many of the posts on this forum re: RTia9s. In 2009, I began with Polk RTia9 X 4, CSi5 & FXi6 X 2 powered by a Pioneer SC-07 (140 W x 7).

    After the many posts re:external amp bringing the a9s alive; I read too much & convinced myself to go that route. In Sept. 2012, I installed a QSC GX7 pro amp, with the main a9s @ getting 740 Watts RMS @ 8 Ohms. Note: there is some skepticism that the GX7 could actually be putting out 740 Watts RMS. All I know is that the result has made 2 channel listening much more enjoyable = seeming to tame some of the "brightness."

    well that amp is certainly affordable. Makes me wonder why some amps are so darn expensive.
    Fronts: Polk RTiA9
    Center: Polk CSiA4
    Sides: Polk F/XiA6
    Rears: Polk RtiA3
    Sub:Polk DSWPRO 660wi

    extras: 2x JBL Monitor 4206

    AVR: Marantz Cinema 50
    Amp: Hypex UcD400 Class D, 2 Channels
    Power Conditioner: Belkin PureAV Home Theater Power Console pf60
    Many different streamers, Heos, firestick, apple
  • eclypse
    eclypse Posts: 595
    edited August 2013
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    I'd snag up 2x XPA-1 amps.. can be found cheaper second hand for around $1200 a pair. Or go with a XPR-5.

    Another choice is with 2x XPA-2s running in bridge mode (single speaker). Would be 500 watts ea amp bridged.

    If I had it all to do over again i'd grab 2 XPA-1s.


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    They just had there summer sale and the XPR-5 was around $1700 I believe with the XPA-1s around $800 ea.
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  • Inspector 24
    Inspector 24 Posts: 1,308
    edited August 2013
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    FWIW, Parasound HCA-3500's can be had for $12-1500. I just picked up mine in near mint condition for $1400 shipped. They have larger power supplies than the Emo's too, which I'm told is a good thing. So far I'm amazed at what it's done for the A9's It's more of everything that is good about them and they're a lot less bright and harsh to listen to at volumes compared to the last amp, Parasound HCA-2003.
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  • CinderLyon
    CinderLyon Posts: 108
    edited October 2023
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    Well 10 years later my adcom power amp decided to start making a discernable low level buzzing sound that sort of cycles; In a quiet room it is noticeable.

    So now it seems like replacement time.

    Anything new folks might suggest given it has been 10 years since my original post?

    I have noticed that my a9's get kinda muddy when full orchestras are playing loud all at once. Mostly they are amazing.

    And i switched to a Denon 3600 AVR (has preouts), set up in dolby atmos 11.1 a long while ago. I tried a couple onkyo but they kept breaking.
    Fronts: Polk RTiA9
    Center: Polk CSiA4
    Sides: Polk F/XiA6
    Rears: Polk RtiA3
    Sub:Polk DSWPRO 660wi

    extras: 2x JBL Monitor 4206

    AVR: Marantz Cinema 50
    Amp: Hypex UcD400 Class D, 2 Channels
    Power Conditioner: Belkin PureAV Home Theater Power Console pf60
    Many different streamers, Heos, firestick, apple
  • rooftop59
    rooftop59 Posts: 7,981
    edited October 2023
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    I would suggest something warmer like a parasound or B&K reference. A parasound hca-1500 or A21 would be awesome.

    If you want to really step up your game, try the musical fidelity A308CR that TMR is selling right now: I have the integrated and it’s by far the best amp I’ve ever owned…
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  • skipshot12
    skipshot12 Posts: 1,008
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    You won’t get one for 1k but a WOPL 700 would be the ticket.
    And, it’ll be bullet-proof with a lifetime warranty….
  • CinderLyon
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    The wopl is pretty nice to look at. Right now I am currently leaning on a new Parasound Model 2250 v.2 Two Channel Power Amplifier, $1500 free shipping (to hawaii), and 2 year warranty.

    Still researching. I looked as some used gear but really dont like the 90 day warranties, especially since shipping here can be rough.

    Waiting to pull the trigger on the 10th. (prime day)
    Fronts: Polk RTiA9
    Center: Polk CSiA4
    Sides: Polk F/XiA6
    Rears: Polk RtiA3
    Sub:Polk DSWPRO 660wi

    extras: 2x JBL Monitor 4206

    AVR: Marantz Cinema 50
    Amp: Hypex UcD400 Class D, 2 Channels
    Power Conditioner: Belkin PureAV Home Theater Power Console pf60
    Many different streamers, Heos, firestick, apple
  • Brelvis
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    Had to double check the start date for this thread! I am still running a pair of Rti10s with, up until last week, a B&K REF7250. My B&K started popping and I could see sparks coming off one of the capacitors so I think it's time has come. I've been trying to find someone who can repair my B&K as I really love it but have been unable to find a repair shop in the Dallas area.

    Back to the subject, not sure what your price range is but I have been looking at the Emotiva XAP Gen 3 and some of the ATI offerings since ATI purchased B&K way back. There is also Monoprice who have their own line of class AB amplifiers made by ATI. These are all reasonably priced amps which are new with good warranties.