West, TX Explosion

exalted512
exalted512 Posts: 10,735
edited April 2013 in The Clubhouse
Prayers sent to the families affected by this

http://www.kens5.com/news/Powerful-explosion-rocks-small-town-near-Waco-multiple-injuries-reported-203510211.html

Video of the explosion. It's not graphic, but it might not be for the light hearted
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10151442582274601
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  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited April 2013
    A guy's wife off another forum has been on the scene from Dallas. He said "In the beginning of the fire, 5 volunteer firemen were fighting the fire. Then the plant exploded. The only thing found from those firemen has been a door from their firetruck. They are believed to have been disintegrated in the blast. Very sad."

    Unbelievable.
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  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,728
    edited April 2013
    Very sad. We stop in that town every time we head down to San Antonio, it's one of my favorite places.

    Also, who decided it was a good idea to build a fertilizer plant so close to a residential area? I realize that **** happens and these things don't frequently blow up, but seriously we've got plenty of land here in Texas...just build that thing a few miles outside of town. If it's the other way around and they built houses close to the plant then that's equally questionable. I realize that in cities it's hard to NOT have residential and industrial right next to each other, but there is LOTS of land in that part of the state so I don't get building them so close together. This isn't a doll factory or a bakery that exploded, it's a fertilizer plant and it's common knowledge that this stuff poses a higher risk than, say, making chocolate.
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  • bmbguy
    bmbguy Posts: 416
    edited April 2013
    Sad indeed. A wife's friend has family that lived near the plant -- they saw the fire and evacuated. Their house was flattened.

    Sad if accidental -- even sadder if intentional.

    Not as high-profile as Boston, but probably worse.
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  • rooftop59
    rooftop59 Posts: 8,121
    edited April 2013
    About 20 miles form my house. Didn't feel it here, but my goodness what a tragedy. As of right now they are saying that they have enough blood, but shelter is going to be a real need. A 50 unit apartment complex was leveled. Just really sad...
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  • hosedagain
    hosedagain Posts: 116
    edited April 2013
    AsSiMiLaTeD wrote: »
    Very sad. We stop in that town every time we head down to San Antonio, it's one of my favorite places.

    Also, who decided it was a good idea to build a fertilizer plant so close to a residential area? I realize that **** happens and these things don't frequently blow up, but seriously we've got plenty of land here in Texas...just build that thing a few miles outside of town. If it's the other way around and they built houses close to the plant then that's equally questionable. I realize that in cities it's hard to NOT have residential and industrial right next to each other, but there is LOTS of land in that part of the state so I don't get building them so close together. This isn't a doll factory or a bakery that exploded, it's a fertilizer plant and it's common knowledge that this stuff poses a higher risk than, say, making chocolate.


    Would have to agree with you, why build so close to a potential fire-explosion plant? greed? poor planing? no fore sight or no common sense. In a city close to me in the middle of a residential area there was a propane storage transfer station, one day it blew up, burned and the damage was extensive to the houses. The question everybody was asking why was that transfer station located there? don't remember who was there first the plant or homes. Same argument about the house that were flooded with oil by a ruptured oil pipeline that were built so close to the pipeline. just saying
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 33,068
    edited April 2013
    Have to agree on the placement of such so close to residential, schools, Nursing homes. Why on earth would village planners allow the risk ? Not like Texas is cramped for room. Somebody down there needs to get their collective heads out of their arses.
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  • SDA1C
    SDA1C Posts: 2,072
    edited April 2013
    ZLTFUL wrote: »
    The same argument can be made for building near any plant that produces fine particle dust.
    Grain elevators, flour and sugar plants...heck even chocolate powder or coffee creamer can be explosive if airborne ignition occurs.

    Granted, the byproducts of most fertilizers are incrementally more explosive but until you have seen a grain dust explosion, don't underestimate it.

    Sugar: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jg7mLSG-Yws&playnext=1&list=PL22708253FDCC9067

    Creamer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRw4ZRqmxOc&list=PL22708253FDCC9067

    Saw dust: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvPL7KC1DEA
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPIZ5Movuiw

    Grain dust: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgQhwC_9LHo
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bM4GW7z0Xz8

    You are exactly right. I was part of a restoration of a plant that sent concrete for 3 miles.

    http://labs.lib.ksu.edu/dlib/grainElevator/Thumbnails/Council%20Bluffs%201982/index.shtml

    The current supervisor of the plant is a survivor of the explosion. Believe me, there are no words.
    Too much **** to list....
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  • hosedagain
    hosedagain Posts: 116
    edited April 2013
    ZLTFUL wrote: »
    The same argument can be made for building near any plant that produces fine particle dust.
    Grain elevators, flour and sugar plants...heck even chocolate powder or coffee creamer can be explosive if airborne ignition occurs.

    Granted, the byproducts of most fertilizers are incrementally more explosive but until you have seen a grain dust explosion, don't underestimate it.

    Sugar: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jg7mLSG-Yws&playnext=1&list=PL22708253FDCC9067

    Creamer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRw4ZRqmxOc&list=PL22708253FDCC9067

    Saw dust: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvPL7KC1DEA
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPIZ5Movuiw

    Grain dust: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgQhwC_9LHo
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bM4GW7z0Xz8

    None of the videos show any residential homes etc close to the sugar refinery and grain silo. the other videos are controlled and forced demos.
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  • JSPAudio
    JSPAudio Posts: 6
    edited April 2013
    Sending many thoughts and prayers to a great little Czech community.
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  • SDA1C
    SDA1C Posts: 2,072
    edited April 2013
    hosedagain wrote: »
    None of the videos show any residential homes etc close to the sugar refinery and grain silo. the other videos are controlled and forced demos.

    Do you even know where FT Wentworth is? Not close to what? I-25 goes right through the residential. There are houses in the back ground at 1:09 of the first vid.
    Too much **** to list....
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  • hosedagain
    hosedagain Posts: 116
    edited April 2013
    SDA1C wrote: »
    Do you even know where FT Wentworth is? Not close to what? I-25 goes right through the residential. There are houses in the back ground at 1:09 of the first vid.

    ops sorry I missed it, thanks for pointing it out, meant to say in my post "I didn't notice any homes" So what if I don't know where Ft Wentworth is?
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  • hosedagain
    hosedagain Posts: 116
    edited April 2013
    SDA1C wrote: »
    Do you even know where FT Wentworth is? Not close to what? I-25 goes right through the residential. There are houses in the back ground at 1:09 of the first vid.

    ops sorry I missed it, thanks for pointing it out, meant to say in my post "I didn't notice any homes" So what if I don't know where Ft Wentworth is?

    Maybe its Pt Wentworth not FT Wentworth, do a Google earth and see how far those houses are,
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  • zingo
    zingo Posts: 11,258
    edited April 2013
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  • NJPOLKER
    NJPOLKER Posts: 3,474
    edited April 2013
    Our prayers and best wishes are with you all.

    God Bless America
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  • jbooker82
    jbooker82 Posts: 1,627
    edited April 2013
    I would be curiouse to know wich was there first. The plant could have been outside of town and the town just kept creeping closer.
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  • SDA1C
    SDA1C Posts: 2,072
    edited April 2013
    hosedagain wrote: »
    ops sorry I missed it, thanks for pointing it out, meant to say in my post "I didn't notice any homes" So what if I don't know where Ft Wentworth is?

    Maybe its Pt Wentworth not FT Wentworth, do a Google earth and see how far those houses are,

    HAHA You'er funny. It's FT Wentworth. If you did a search yourself you might learn something. Then again...you might not.
    Too much **** to list....
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  • hosedagain
    hosedagain Posts: 116
    edited April 2013
    SDA1C wrote: »
    HAHA You'er funny. It's FT Wentworth. If you did a search yourself you might learn something. Then again...you might not.

    OK truce, what does the "FT" stand for? Fort?
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  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited April 2013
    SDA1C wrote: »
    HAHA You'er funny. It's FT Wentworth. If you did a search yourself you might learn something. Then again...you might not.

    Have some respect and take this somewhere else. A bunch of people lost their lives and you're arguing over the spelling of a town.
    -Cody
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