Did bush make a joke about attacking Iraq today?

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spyderman
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edited February 28 in Clubhouse Archives
Did I hear correctly, did bush make a joke today about our attacking Iraq? If so, he may have just lost the election.
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  • trubluluc
    trubluluc Posts: 2,067
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    spyderman:
    "Did I hear correctly, did bush make a joke today about our attacking Iraq? If so, he may have just lost the election."

    How can you tell when he makes a joke?

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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,576
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    Most of the stuff that comes out of his mouth is funny :)
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  • shepx2
    shepx2 Posts: 646
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    SO everyone else can make jokes about it, but he can't? That's hypocrisy at it's best.
    Personally, I won't be voting for him come election time, but I do like him more for being able to take a jab at himself. I don't think John Kerry even understands that humor exists.
  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,722
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    Anyone got a link to this info?
  • spyderman
    spyderman Posts: 678
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    Yes, an American President is held to the highest standard.

    He is not allowed to make fun of a situation that has caused the deaths of 600+ American soldiers, and the wounding of 4000!

    These Americans have paid the ultimate sacrifice based on a pre-election agenda, on half-truths, and false accusations. Based on the poorest decision made by an inept President.

    No, an American President is NOT allowed to make fun of a WAR that he has caused based on half-truths and false accusations.

    The morale of these American soldiers is falling, while a President who sent them there is making jokes about it???

    Let me remind you that I was a conservative republican before this President took office. This administration has caused me to change a lot of my beliefs.:confused:
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  • spyderman
    spyderman Posts: 678
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    Did you catch that Meet the Press interview Bush did.

    Sounded like a bumblin' and stumblin' fool... Not the leader of most powerful nation in the world.:(
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  • PolkWannabie
    PolkWannabie Posts: 2,763
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    I'm still waiting for you to tell us anything Kerry or you for that matter are actually FOR ... But all you seem to be able to do is tell us what your AGAINST.

    Being AGAINST everything is not a plan ... All it does is show how little plan there is.
  • PhantomOG
    PhantomOG Posts: 2,409
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    politics and religion....

    :rolleyes:
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 49,883
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    ...don't belong here.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."


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  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,077
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    Amen....brother...amen.

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  • PolkWannabie
    PolkWannabie Posts: 2,763
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    But gun clubs do ... LOL ...

    I don't start these, but I can't let them go unchecked without SOME degree of reason.
  • hoosier21
    hoosier21 Posts: 4,408
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    President George W. Bush displayed a photograph showing him on his hands and knees, looking under furniture in his office and saying, "Those weapons of mass destruction have got to be somewhere!"

    I am for Bush, but man it is getting harder and harder each day:(
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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
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    Originally posted by hoosier21
    I am for Bush, but man it is getting harder and harder each day:(

    I'm with you on this one. What the hell was he thinking?
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  • spyderman
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    it's much nicer here!

    They're still Americans and they really love our country too. Once I stopped buying into the right-wing rhetoric, like "What's Kerry for, he flip flops...etc.", it became much easier. The way they attack and tarnish people's reputations, it's all just a right-wing power grab.

    I know this can be said about both sides, but it is still much nicer over here.

    If anyone knows anything about politics, they'd know how much crap, and self-interest, is attached to these bills they vote on.

    I can't sleep well at night knowing this administration is responsible for lying to us about Iraq, with the result of dead American soldiers. It made me long for the days of simple lies about an office trist with a ne
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  • PolkWannabie
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    Some day you'll have to explain to us how asking what a candidate has in mind for policies to take the country FORWARD in some direction classifies as rhetoric.

    But as long as he's "nicer", I could see how this would be extremely important. ROTFLMAO.

    And will the real ClarkE, please stand up.
  • spyderman
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    These are my new beliefs...

    What has happened these past few months has only confirmed everything I started thinking. I just had to open my eyes, and mind, a little and see things for what they are.

    I was initially a supporter of the Iraq war, mainly b/c of Powell's U.N. address. I thought, once we got over there and offered a reward for information on the WMDs they'd pop up without delay.
    Never happened.:( Now I'm eating huge amounts of crow with my muslim friends.

    Were we manipulated by the brits? Who knows, but the administration is responsible for interpreting the info they were given.

    With Oniell's assertions, I really do believe this war was the very first item on their agenda after bush was "awarded" the office.:confused:

    While the issue of the war is quite huge on my list, it's not the only one. The Job market is another big issue. Healthcare and education have become fodder in order to garnish votes...

    It is much nicer over here. Don't be afraid, give it a try.
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  • PolkWannabie
    PolkWannabie Posts: 2,763
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    Been there, done that ...

    As the saying goes ...

    When you're 20, if you're not a liberal you have no heart,
    when you're 40, if you're not a conservative you have no head.

    Fortunately in this regard I haven't been closer to 20 than 40 in some time.
  • spyderman
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    Clarke has only worked for 30 years in the public sector. For both the dems and republicans. He was a registered republican in 2000. You’re just spewing the right-wing rhetoric by attacking a whistle blower.

    If you’re referring to Kerry’s voting record, if you know anything about politics, you'd know how much crap, and self-interest, is attached to these bills they vote on.

    If you like having an administration that's responsible for lying to us with the result of dead American soldiers, then go ahead and vote for Bush.

    Hope you can sleep well at night.
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  • PolkWannabie
    PolkWannabie Posts: 2,763
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    I sleep much better now thank you ...

    As far as Clarke goes, his testimony is self contradicting. Check the record. They're his comments, not rhetoric about his comments.
  • ohskigod
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    a "whistleblower" that times his whistleblowing to coincide with a book release, thus making him tons of coin, is going to raise some ire. The vibe Clarke is giving off seems like a spotlight grab for his 15 minutes of fame, as well as to pad his retirement fund with the book sales. hey, call me kooky.

    Bush might not be the brightest star in the sky, but he doesnt just follow "the political winds" either. ok, maybe he does a little, as do all politicians, but not nearly as blatantly as Mr Kerry. calling Kerry a flip flopper is not right wing rhetoric, its the blatant truth.

    Bush has not made all the choices that make me happy, not by a long shot, but i have no trust in Kerry's ability to keep our country safe from any enemy, in the long or short term.

    as a disclaimer, i consider myself a right leaning independent. I vote for people based on issues and ,to an extent charachter. Not allways republican, or Democrat
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  • spyderman
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    :rolleyes:
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  • spyderman
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    Clarke's book release could be questioned, but the way I see it he may have timed it for the benefit of the 9/11 commission.

    Who knows what influence his publisher had over this too.

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  • madmax
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    I supported the war. I also believe it worked out well. Did your muslim friends condone what was going on before we went there? If so I would say to find some new friends.
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  • PolkWannabie
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    Again ... Check the book contents and his current statements against his prior sworn testimony. They are in total disagreement with each other. So the question is was he lying then or is he lying now ? They can't both be the truth.

    As far as the war in Iraq goes, from the beginning it was about "The War On Terrorism" ... If we found WMD's fine, if not, I could care less. Again, check the statements prior to the fact, not the political rhetoric after the fact.

    The reality of the situation is that you aren't gonna make the terrorist organizations of the world cool their jets by inviting them to dinner or totally pulling out the mid east or whatever. They wants us gone, plain and simple. This unfortunately limits ones options.
  • shepx2
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    I can't sleep well at night knowing this administration is responsible for lying to us about Iraq, with the result of dead American soldiers.

    So you have "PROOF" Bush lied to us? You better run to the newsroom then, cuz you will be the 1st.

    There was no hidden agenda; we have wanted to get Saddam out of power since the Gulf War. We've been told, thousands of times during the Clinton Administration, about how Iraq'sa weapons were a threat to us; how he kept moving them around. I don't hear you calling Clinton a liar for us being misled at that time as well.
    You claim to have "seen the light", and you say you are open mined; I say you are just as blind as all the rest of the Party Faithful people in the US.
    The problem is that, if anyone is to blame, it's the Intelligence service. And we finally have a president with balls, who acted on the intelligence that has been given to us for over 10 years. No one has disputed the claims of Iraq's weapons until now. And everyone is playing the monday-morning quarterback, spouting "I TOLD YOU SO!", when in fact, they never said anything to counter those claims.

    That said, I am not happy with the whole situation either. I could care less about the Iraqi people; I care about our soldiers. We should either pull our forces out of there, and let the Iraqi's deal with their newfound freedom themselves, or we should act like conquerors, and take all their damn oil we wish. But we are too politically correct anymore to do those things.

    My reasoning for not voting for Bush this time has nothing to do with the Iraq war, cuz it wasn't his fault. His push for Amnesty for Illegal Immigrants is my reason.

    But I fear how much worse off we'd be with Kerry as a leader.

    Maybe we can just have a mass firing squad, and get rid of everyone in public office.
  • hoosier21
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    Clark's credibility is near zero

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,115085,00.html

    that read's a little different than what he is saying now.
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  • hoosier21
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    Old records can still bite!!!!

    "One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
    - President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

    "If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
    - President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

    "Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face." - Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

    "He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten time since 1983."
    - Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

    "[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
    - Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin (D-MI),
    Tom Daschle (D-SD), John Kerry( D - MA), and others Oct. 9, 1998

    "Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
    - Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

    "Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
    - Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

    "There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has invigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
    - Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others,
    December 5, 2001

    "We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandated of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them."
    - Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

    "We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
    - Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

    "Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
    - Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

    "We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
    - Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

    "The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
    - Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

    "I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force-- if necessary-- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
    - Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

    "There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
    - Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

    "He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do"
    - Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

    "In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weap ons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members.. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
    - Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

    "We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
    - Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

    "Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction
    ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real"
    - Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

    SO NOW THESE SAME DEMOCRATS SAY PRESIDENT BUSH LIED--THAT THERE NEVER WERE ANY WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION AND HE TOOK US TO WAR UNECESSARILY!
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  • PolkWannabie
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    Originally posted by shepx2
    My reasoning for not voting for Bush this time has nothing to do with the Iraq war, cuz it wasn't his fault. His push for Amnesty for Illegal Immigrants is my reason.

    But I fear how much worse off we'd be with Kerry as a leader.

    Maybe we can just have a mass firing squad, and get rid of everyone in public office.
    Yep, no one has done well with this and it in turn has and will cause a variety of other problems.
  • gidrah
    gidrah Posts: 3,049
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    Go Nader. :eek:
    Make it Funky! :)
  • PolkWannabie
    PolkWannabie Posts: 2,763
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    LOL ... Trot out the other Texan again ... Would've been interesting a few years ago if Ross had stayed in it beginning to end. This country really could use a different political party ...