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  • Demiurge
    Demiurge Posts: 10,874
    edited March 2004
    In all honesty...how is the smokestack harming you or any people around it?

    I mean...Global Warming is proved to be **** along with nearly every other environmental scare. Is that what bothers you....or is it the soot that gets all over the rocks and buildings?

    I mean hell....now bottles of Dansai bottled water give you cancer. Even the people who buy refined water have to worry about getting cancer. I mean....christ...EVERYTHING kills you.

    People need to frickin relax and just enjoy life. You'll end up killing yourself from stressing out about dumb stuff. If the smokestack bothers you leave....because if you **** about it too much you'll cost all of those people their jobs. The money to pay for the restrictions is whats causing businesses to leave. If it's not going to be profitable it's not worth being in business. Money doesn't grow on trees.
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  • brettw22
    brettw22 Posts: 7,623
    edited March 2004
    Originally posted by Demiurge
    In all honesty...how is the smokestack harming you or any people around it?

    I mean...Global Warming is proved to be **** along with nearly every other environmental scare. Is that what bothers you....or is it the soot that gets all over the rocks and buildings?

    I mean hell....now bottles of Dansai bottled water give you cancer. Even the people who buy refined water have to worry about getting cancer. I mean....christ...EVERYTHING kills you.

    People need to frickin relax and just enjoy life. You'll end up killing yourself from stressing out about dumb stuff. If the smokestack bothers you leave....because if you **** about it too much you'll cost all of those people their jobs. The money to pay for the restrictions is whats causing businesses to leave. If it's not going to be profitable it's not worth being in business. Money doesn't grow on trees.
    Are you outta your effin mind??!?!?!?

    Back down, and apologize to dcarlson. If you're not bright enough to realize how the toxins coming out of those things affects the people/land around it, then keep your mouth shut.

    Such a ****.......

    (no, I'm not playing the 'my candidates better than yours' game here)
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  • Demiurge
    Demiurge Posts: 10,874
    edited March 2004
    Brett kiss my **** and get lost.

    I don't know how many times I have to tell you.....
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  • brettw22
    brettw22 Posts: 7,623
    edited March 2004
    Dont' feel special here Demi.......as long as you act like a dumbass, you'll be addressed accordingly. You'd think you got that by now.......
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  • POLKOHOLIC
    POLKOHOLIC Posts: 407
    edited March 2004
    The more Kerry talks the more likely Bush will win in a landslide.

    You have GOT to be KIDDING me. I Think Its The Other Way Around.
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  • POLKOHOLIC
    POLKOHOLIC Posts: 407
    edited March 2004
    dcarlson im sure that stacks been there before you moved in. why did you choose to live there if you had known about its effects ont he environment around it? maybe because the real estate is cheaper in that area due to the stack and it influenced your decision to purchase the house?
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  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited March 2004
    There's something that brothers me about your statement. If you are born in a factory town of some sorts, do you live or work there when you grow up 99% I say yes. Could he have grown up and now feels this is what hurting his city / town.

    Just give him a break.







    Originally posted by POLKOHOLIC
    dcarlson im sure that stacks been there before you moved in. why did you choose to live there if you had known about its effects ont he environment around it? maybe because the real estate is cheaper in that area due to the stack and it influenced your decision to purchase the house?

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  • dcarlson
    dcarlson Posts: 1,740
    edited March 2004
    I love my city and have absolutely no intention of moving. I wasn't saying they should shut the plant down. It provides many jobs and drives the city's economy. I was simply trying to convey the dangers of taking the environment for granted and the damage that can happen from big business having its way with land. I have no pity when the environment is concerned.

    It's literally taken a generation of work to reclaim the damage that was done when Inco had free rain over the environment.

    But hey, who am I to say? I only live here. Sudbury (as much as I love it) should be a world wide lesson to be careful and make the environment a top priority.
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  • amulford
    amulford Posts: 5,020
    edited March 2004
    Okay, for all you long haired, tree hugging enviromentalists, AND all of you big industry supporters:

    I KNOW FOR A FACT YOU CAN HAVE THE BEST OF BOTH WORLDS!

    The world as it is today cannot operate with the advances in industry and the products said industry produces. Be it the oil refineries, the generating plants, the mining operations, etc, etc, etc...

    This comes at a certain price, and you have to accept it or lose the quality of life you now hold so dear.

    So get off the sopabox, because they have to exist.

    HOWEVER, all of this can be done while striving to minimize the impact on the enviroment. The only thing is that it COSTS MONEY, and LOTS OF IT.

    You can best believe this would not be done if governments do not step in and strictly regulate. These industries are in the game to make money, and THEY DO. The problem is they would make alot more if left go.

    It can be done. Both sides have to work at it.

    Just my .02
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  • dcarlson
    dcarlson Posts: 1,740
    edited March 2004
    I agree. :)
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  • PolkWannabie
    PolkWannabie Posts: 2,763
    edited March 2004
    I agree for the most part with the exception that in the end it's the individuals that pay not the companies ...

    They pay in terms of what it looks like, smells like or the health effects that doing nothing have or they pay in terms of higher prices as companies will only pass along the costs of doing business and if as a result higher prices make the product they make non competitive then individuals pay in different ways as well i.e. the jobs disappear or are moved.
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  • amulford
    amulford Posts: 5,020
    edited March 2004
    I have to disagree with one point of your argument. The unscrupulous companies WILL make a greater profit. It's a little thing called prevailing market .

    Yes, of course the consumer is the one to pay in the long run. However, the additional cost to the individual would be negligible. Most consumers would agree to pay a little extra...

    My point is that the additional cost would affect the prevailing market, and those who do not spend the money would then in turn reap a greater margin due above. Thus the need for strict regulation.

    Do you see my point?
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  • PolkWannabie
    PolkWannabie Posts: 2,763
    edited March 2004
    Although I would agree that SOME regulation is necessary, I can't say that I am for more regulation than is absolutely necessary as this has a way of adding it's own associated costs one way or another.
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  • amulford
    amulford Posts: 5,020
    edited March 2004
    No dude, I don't mean they need to be bird dogged to the piont of strangulation. But a watchful eye must be kept, for just like an unruly teenager, one will get away with as much as one is allowed to.
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  • PolkWannabie
    PolkWannabie Posts: 2,763
    edited March 2004
    Now if we could only give some teeth to the INS rather than making their job description politically incorrect.
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  • amulford
    amulford Posts: 5,020
    edited March 2004
    I absolutely agree.
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