Banana plug - to do or not to do?

matchan
matchan Posts: 73
edited September 2011 in Basic Hookup/Wiring Questions
Is there any advantage at all to banana plugging ? I have the bare wire now. With the speaker, the bare wire runs a little into the terminals and some bare... not sure if this is a bad thing...
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  • wutadumsn23
    wutadumsn23 Posts: 3,702
    edited July 2011
    Banana plugs are a good option, especially if you move or adjust your system often. It is more of a convience than a must have, but it does clean up your connections some and allow you to be able to fine tune your setup without having to hassle with the connections.

    -Jeff
    HT Rig
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    Retired- Polk Audio Monitor 40's
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  • gdb
    gdb Posts: 6,012
    edited July 2011
    They're good if you've got the room in back of the gear for them to stick out straight, if not, spades are better.:smile:
  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,687
    edited July 2011
    gdb wrote: »
    They're good if you've got the room in back of the gear for them to stick out straight, if not, spades are better.:smile:

    +1. My Integra's screw down connections were a PITA to get to due to the limited space between the wall and my AVR. And since I have like a 75+ lb DLP + 5 channel amp and other gear, moving it out and back in over and over just wasnt working.

    With Bananna's I can get them connected somewhat easy with everything left the way it is.
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  • mufsoman
    mufsoman Posts: 636
    edited July 2011
    I found that my threaded terminals had a tendency to loosen with bare wires over time. Seemed like each time I checked them, they were loose. I have naners on everything now.....
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    Denon 3800
    Parasound HCA-2205A
    SVS Prime towers, center channel and bookshelfs (side surrounds)
    Atmos: Mirage Nanosats x 4
    Turbo MFW-15 x 2
    Panasonic DP-UB820
    APC H15
    Morrow MA4 & AQ Cobra IC's, AQ Midnight speaker cables
  • CCNJ
    CCNJ Posts: 384
    edited July 2011
    No sound advantage (IMHO) but I like banana and spades over bare wire for convenience and neatness. Just remember that not all bananas are created equal. I terminated some speaker wire myself with bananas that I bought and while it was easy, the bananas were not a great fit and were easily pulled out of the back of my amp and speaker if either was moved. I recently bought a pair of Audioquest Type 4 speaker wire with factory terminated banana plugs and the fit was perfect.
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    Rig2 - LFD LE IV Integrated, Harbeth P3ESR, Rega Dac, MF V-Link, IMAC, Audioquest Type4
  • zingo
    zingo Posts: 11,258
    edited July 2011
    The other advantage to bananas is if you solder them, you protect the copper from the air. Your bare wire will oxidize over time, and oxidized copper does not conduct very well. A quality silver plated, copper banana plug with silver solder will conduct the signal just as well as bare copper wire.

    Another option is just to get some high quality, silver solder and tin the bare copper wires. This will protect the bare copper from oxidation, yet still let you use screw or spring terminals.
  • matchan
    matchan Posts: 73
    edited July 2011
    thanks all. ordered some nakamachi plugs
  • saemark30
    saemark30 Posts: 146
    edited July 2011
    I like a solid direct connection with no solder interface and connector losses even if that means cleaning the copper wires.
  • Mr. Sharpe
    Mr. Sharpe Posts: 1,359
    edited August 2011
    matchan wrote: »
    Is there any advantage at all to banana plugging ? I have the bare wire now. With the speaker, the bare wire runs a little into the terminals and some bare... not sure if this is a bad thing...

    Convenience of plugging and unplugging without having to worry about stray wires poking into other terminals. I use them because of this reason and it neatens things up. I have some of the dual plugs but I'm going to get some of the single ones the wire just comes out the back of so the wires aren't bent over the plugs.
    Home theater:
    43” Westinghouse Displayer
    Marantz UD-7007 Player
    Emotiva MC-700 Processor
    Adcom GFA-5006 Amplifier
    Parasound Zamp Amplifier
    Ethereal ESO-1 Power Conditioner
    Klipsch RC-10 Center
    Klipsch R34c Fronts
    Klipsch RB-41 Surrounds
    Polk audio PSW-505

    Stereo:
    Polk audio RTA-12c’s fully upgraded crossovers
    DIY 12tc braided speaker cables
    Denon DVD-5910ci Spinner
    Parasound P6 Preamplifer
    Parasound HCA -1500a Amplifier
  • cembros
    cembros Posts: 172
    edited August 2011
    I like plugs and spades, it's much more convenient. I always hated using bare wire, I found it to be messy.
  • Mr. Sharpe
    Mr. Sharpe Posts: 1,359
    edited August 2011
    I find the worst part about using bare wire is it can get into the other output on the receiver or amp.
    Home theater:
    43” Westinghouse Displayer
    Marantz UD-7007 Player
    Emotiva MC-700 Processor
    Adcom GFA-5006 Amplifier
    Parasound Zamp Amplifier
    Ethereal ESO-1 Power Conditioner
    Klipsch RC-10 Center
    Klipsch R34c Fronts
    Klipsch RB-41 Surrounds
    Polk audio PSW-505

    Stereo:
    Polk audio RTA-12c’s fully upgraded crossovers
    DIY 12tc braided speaker cables
    Denon DVD-5910ci Spinner
    Parasound P6 Preamplifer
    Parasound HCA -1500a Amplifier
  • HTguru1982
    HTguru1982 Posts: 1,066
    edited August 2011
    For speakers I'm kind of indifferent but for your receiver, it makes a world of difference. I can't stand how tightly packed the binding posts are on receivers. With thicker cable, it's downright maddening trying to connect speaker wire.
    Display: Sony 42" LCD
    Sources: Harman Kardon DVD-27,
    Panasonic DMP-BDT110 blu ray player
    AVR: Sony STR-DA2400ES
    Amps: Sonance Sonamp 260(fronts),
    Kenwood KM-894(surrounds)
    Fronts: NHT 2.5
    Center: NHT VS-1.2A
    Surrounds: NHT Super One
    Subwoofer: SVS PB10-ISD
  • kolbywhite28
    kolbywhite28 Posts: 49
    edited September 2011
    Banana plugs are way better than bare wires but note that banana plugs may also cause accidents such as electrical shocks, burns & short circuits when energized with voltage.
  • 20hz
    20hz Posts: 636
    edited September 2011
    Banana plugs are way better than bare wires but note that banana plugs may also cause accidents such as electrical shocks, burns & short circuits when energized with voltage.

    shocks ?
    Speaker wires are low voltage and should not be disturbed when the equipment in on .
    burns short circuits ??
    I have found that old spring terminals end up with times the speaker goes off , but gold 5 way binding posts never have that problem .
  • Mr. Sharpe
    Mr. Sharpe Posts: 1,359
    edited September 2011
    lol Welcome to club Polk
    Home theater:
    43” Westinghouse Displayer
    Marantz UD-7007 Player
    Emotiva MC-700 Processor
    Adcom GFA-5006 Amplifier
    Parasound Zamp Amplifier
    Ethereal ESO-1 Power Conditioner
    Klipsch RC-10 Center
    Klipsch R34c Fronts
    Klipsch RB-41 Surrounds
    Polk audio PSW-505

    Stereo:
    Polk audio RTA-12c’s fully upgraded crossovers
    DIY 12tc braided speaker cables
    Denon DVD-5910ci Spinner
    Parasound P6 Preamplifer
    Parasound HCA -1500a Amplifier
  • HTguru1982
    HTguru1982 Posts: 1,066
    edited September 2011
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    Display: Sony 42" LCD
    Sources: Harman Kardon DVD-27,
    Panasonic DMP-BDT110 blu ray player
    AVR: Sony STR-DA2400ES
    Amps: Sonance Sonamp 260(fronts),
    Kenwood KM-894(surrounds)
    Fronts: NHT 2.5
    Center: NHT VS-1.2A
    Surrounds: NHT Super One
    Subwoofer: SVS PB10-ISD
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,396
    edited September 2011
    Banana plugs are way better than bare wires but note that banana plugs may also cause accidents such as electrical shocks, burns & short circuits when energized with voltage.

    Nah, that's probably from the crack pipe you're trying to light when hooking gear up :rolleyes:.

    Never heard of such a thing unless one is retarded and shorts the plugs out. No one should "hot" swap cables, ever! Unless you own an Aleph :biggrin:

    H9
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  • Mon40CSMM10
    Mon40CSMM10 Posts: 161
    edited September 2011
    Pioneer warns about the speaker terminals when the receiver is on.

    As for hot-swapping cables, I just hot swapped left front and right front banana plugs after realizing I could revert to having Monitor 40 speakers in the main/living room if I inverted the speaker so that the port was on the bottom (grills still attached right side up with the Polk Audio logo at the bottom as usual)*. I just connected negative first, then positive. No sparks or any other noises, just music as I connected the banana plugs into the speakers.
  • WilliamM2
    WilliamM2 Posts: 4,806
    edited September 2011
    As for hot-swapping cables, I just hot swapped left front and right front banana plugs after realizing I could revert to having Monitor 40 speakers in the main/living room if I inverted the speaker so that the port was on the bottom (grills still attached right side up with the Polk Audio logo at the bottom as usual)*. I just connected negative first, then positive. No sparks or any other noises, just music as I connected the banana plugs into the speakers.

    Sure, it can be done if you are careful. But why bother? It's pretty easy to hit the off button on the remote.
  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,313
    edited September 2011
    Banana Plugs rule all other suck ****. I'm a huge Banana guy as I swap around my system so much I would hate bare wire or Spades. I actually don't like spades as they are to much effort. Good surface contact but not worth the time and effort.
    Dan
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  • Mr. Sharpe
    Mr. Sharpe Posts: 1,359
    edited September 2011
    Mantis sayd it all. I also move my stuff around a lot and Banana's make it very easy to connect and disconnect. I am currently using Monoprice brand plugs but I'll be getting Monster soon since they aren't $24 a pack now and the wire jacket fits up in the black of the connector itself whereas monoprice you have to get the wire stripped the perfect length, if you don't do this they will either be too long or too short so there is exposed wire on the back of the plug or the wire gets into the screw threads.
    Home theater:
    43” Westinghouse Displayer
    Marantz UD-7007 Player
    Emotiva MC-700 Processor
    Adcom GFA-5006 Amplifier
    Parasound Zamp Amplifier
    Ethereal ESO-1 Power Conditioner
    Klipsch RC-10 Center
    Klipsch R34c Fronts
    Klipsch RB-41 Surrounds
    Polk audio PSW-505

    Stereo:
    Polk audio RTA-12c’s fully upgraded crossovers
    DIY 12tc braided speaker cables
    Denon DVD-5910ci Spinner
    Parasound P6 Preamplifer
    Parasound HCA -1500a Amplifier
  • Mr. Sharpe
    Mr. Sharpe Posts: 1,359
    edited September 2011
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    Home theater:
    43” Westinghouse Displayer
    Marantz UD-7007 Player
    Emotiva MC-700 Processor
    Adcom GFA-5006 Amplifier
    Parasound Zamp Amplifier
    Ethereal ESO-1 Power Conditioner
    Klipsch RC-10 Center
    Klipsch R34c Fronts
    Klipsch RB-41 Surrounds
    Polk audio PSW-505

    Stereo:
    Polk audio RTA-12c’s fully upgraded crossovers
    DIY 12tc braided speaker cables
    Denon DVD-5910ci Spinner
    Parasound P6 Preamplifer
    Parasound HCA -1500a Amplifier
  • TECHNOKID
    TECHNOKID Posts: 4,298
    edited September 2011
    Reported again! You are lucky admin is busy as hell but you will eventually be gone for good! The new bulletin board seems to attract spammers as hell! :rolleyes:
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  • Mr. Sharpe
    Mr. Sharpe Posts: 1,359
    edited September 2011
    He hasn't set up his subscriptions yet so he won't see that... neither will he see he got banned lol
    Home theater:
    43” Westinghouse Displayer
    Marantz UD-7007 Player
    Emotiva MC-700 Processor
    Adcom GFA-5006 Amplifier
    Parasound Zamp Amplifier
    Ethereal ESO-1 Power Conditioner
    Klipsch RC-10 Center
    Klipsch R34c Fronts
    Klipsch RB-41 Surrounds
    Polk audio PSW-505

    Stereo:
    Polk audio RTA-12c’s fully upgraded crossovers
    DIY 12tc braided speaker cables
    Denon DVD-5910ci Spinner
    Parasound P6 Preamplifer
    Parasound HCA -1500a Amplifier