Need help choosing a Blu Ray player

breal74
breal74 Posts: 324
edited July 2011 in Electronics
I can't decide between a Pioneer Elite BDP 23FD or a Panasonic DMP Bdt210. I have a Toshiba 40RV525R, for now, and a Marantz SR6005 receiver. Not too concerned with the all the bells and whistles with the Panny, just picture quality. The Pioneer is the last model truely made by Pioneer and have heard good things. The Panny gets good reviews and has faster load times. Will there be a big picture quality difference between the two? Any thoughts? Thanks for the input!
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  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,377
    edited July 2011
    Get the Pioneer , it's built better and has a better picture and sound.Nothing wrong with the Panasonic as it's a nice player.
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 33,072
    edited July 2011
    The Pioneer has a great picture, but is slower than most all others loading discs. Can't comment on the panny. If your also going to use the bdp to spin cd's in, the slow loading times maybe aggravating. Other than that, I would say the panny should be close to the pioneer picture wise. Also look at any connections on the back you may think you need and if one or the other does/doesn't have them.
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  • breal74
    breal74 Posts: 324
    edited July 2011
    Does anyone know if you can hook up a wireless adapter to the Pioneer? I can't find anything online about that, which probably tells me no.
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  • kevhed72
    kevhed72 Posts: 5,142
    edited July 2011
    There is an Elite 95FD on Audiogon - NO -AFFIL - which would be nice if you could spend some more coin...
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  • dragon1952
    dragon1952 Posts: 4,907
    edited July 2011
    I've been very happy with the Panasonic. Excellent picture quality and wireless performance. Plus you can search Net-Flix from the remote.
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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited July 2011
    what brand is your TV display? I am a big fan of matching TV and blu ray player brands.. they are designed to give you the best picture from both, since they are the same brands.

    I used two different panny blu ray players over the years.. not till I matched both my Samsung blu ray with my Samsung TV did I realize how much better the picture quality was.
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  • DMara
    DMara Posts: 1,434
    edited July 2011
    danger boy wrote: »
    what brand is your TV display? I am a big fan of matching TV and blu ray player brands.. they are designed to give you the best picture from both, since they are the same brands.

    I used two different panny blu ray players over the years.. not till I matched both my Samsung blu ray with my Samsung TV did I realize how much better the picture quality was.


    I don't believe matching the Bluray player's name brand with the TV's has anything to do with picture quality.
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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited July 2011
    DMara wrote: »
    I don't believe matching the Bluray player's name brand with the TV's has anything to do with picture quality.

    well have you tried it? I have.. and I stand by my findings.

    you wouldn't use a Chevy carburetor on a Ford would you?

    Same principal.. to get the best performance.. you want to stick with same brands for video..

    granted.. you can't find Pioneer TV's anymore I don't think.. but if you could.. I bet their own Pioneer blu rays would look amazing on their displays.

    sure any blu ray player will work with any display these days.. but I don't feel it's optimized if they are different brands.
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  • decal
    decal Posts: 3,205
    edited July 2011
    you wouldn't use a Chevy carburetor on a Ford would you?
    Not a very good analogy,IMHO.
    If you can't hear a difference, don't waste your money.
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  • DMara
    DMara Posts: 1,434
    edited July 2011
    I'm just speechless :biggrin:
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  • ROHfan
    ROHfan Posts: 1,014
    edited July 2011
    danger boy wrote: »
    Same principal.. to get the best performance.. you want to stick with same brands for video..

    Would like to see some test results to support that one.
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  • breal74
    breal74 Posts: 324
    edited July 2011
    My TV is a Toshiba 40RV525R, but I will be adding a projector in the near future.
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  • hockeyboy
    hockeyboy Posts: 1,428
    edited July 2011
    The Panasonic is a great choice. Limitation is that it only has one 1.4 HDMI output, so if you are going to use the 3D capability that could be a limitation. The player is a great value for the price and most come with a voucher for a free copy of Avatar 3D. It has a reasonable conversion from 2D to 3D but wouldn't buy it for that purpose alone while it does add depth it also adds artifacts.

    The upgraded 310 just came out (available at Panny site) and has another HDMI output. Both players have built in wireless and skype (have to buy a camera). Both players also have updated thier Viera on this player so it loads much more quickly. It also has the enhanced Netflix so you can make changes to your queue and look at recommendations rather than just play movies from your queue (which I always find frustrating with the older model I have).

    I would lean toward the 310 rather than 210 just to get the extra HDMI out. If you have a 3D display but not a 3D AVR this could be important.
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  • Almadacr
    Almadacr Posts: 185
    edited July 2011
    danger boy wrote: »
    what brand is your TV display? I am a big fan of matching TV and blu ray player brands.. they are designed to give you the best picture from both, since they are the same brands.

    I used two different panny blu ray players over the years.. not till I matched both my Samsung blu ray with my Samsung TV did I realize how much better the picture quality was.

    From someone that as 15 000 post on this site saying something like this i have to WoW :eek:
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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited July 2011
    Almadacr wrote: »
    From someone that as 15 000 post on this site saying something like this i have to WoW :eek:

    15,620 posts now.

    to each his own... i work in television. 30 yrs now... 8 hours a day, 5 days a week I look at TV's of all types. I'm trained to notice subtle differences in brightness, chroma, hues, whites and blacks and the entire gray scale on TV's that are much better than any home display.

    Just dismiss me.. I don't really care.. just offering my findings.
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  • Polkie2009
    Polkie2009 Posts: 3,834
    edited July 2011
    I'll have to agree, it's hard to dispute someone who has 30 plus years work experience in the TV trenches , thanks for you input .
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  • Almadacr
    Almadacr Posts: 185
    edited July 2011
    danger boy wrote: »
    15,620 posts now.

    to each his own... i work in television. 30 yrs now... 8 hours a day, 5 days a week I look at TV's of all types. I'm trained to notice subtle differences in brightness, chroma, hues, whites and blacks and the entire gray scale on TV's that are much better than any home display.

    Just dismiss me.. I don't really care.. just offering my findings.

    If your work is related with technical support or engineering at a TV station , you will be working more than 8hours a day and more than 5 days a week , unless you are working at the tv station and in the accounting department and you think you have the expertise on the matter , well you just defeated all the process regarding tv set and calibration Kudos to you .

    For your information you can still find Pioneer tv set`s but who wants to pay 10 000$ for a tv , and the pioneer players will still look exactly the same even if your tv is a Panasonic .
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  • DMara
    DMara Posts: 1,434
    edited July 2011
    danger boy wrote: »
    15,620 posts now.

    to each his own... i work in television. 30 yrs now... 8 hours a day, 5 days a week I look at TV's of all types. I'm trained to notice subtle differences in brightness, chroma, hues, whites and blacks and the entire gray scale on TV's that are much better than any home display.

    Just dismiss me.. I don't really care.. just offering my findings.


    I own a Panasonic DMP-BD35, my first Bluray player.
    I own a Panasonic DMP-BDT110P, it came free with my new Panasonic TC-P65VT3D plasma.
    I also own an Oppo Digital BDP-95.

    I was curious with your statement, so I decided to do some testing with those players connecting to the Panasonic plasma. I played some scenes from The Dark Knight and Tron Legacy Bluray discs as well as Eye Wide Shut and Sting's All This Time concert DVD discs. To my eyes, the Oppo's video output was significantly more vibrant, more blackness, and more detailed (very clear edges of things with different colors). The difference wasn't subtle at all, clearly showing the Oppo to be the better device, especially when playing DVD movies.
    Oh well, I don't have your experience, therefore I couldn't see what you saw. To each his own.
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  • dragon1952
    dragon1952 Posts: 4,907
    edited July 2011
    hockeyboy wrote: »
    The Panasonic is a great choice. Limitation is that it only has one 1.4 HDMI output, so if you are going to use the 3D capability that could be a limitation. The player is a great value for the price and most come with a voucher for a free copy of Avatar 3D. It has a reasonable conversion from 2D to 3D but wouldn't buy it for that purpose alone while it does add depth it also adds artifacts.

    The upgraded 310 just came out (available at Panny site) and has another HDMI output. Both players have built in wireless and skype (have to buy a camera). Both players also have updated thier Viera on this player so it loads much more quickly. It also has the enhanced Netflix so you can make changes to your queue and look at recommendations rather than just play movies from your queue (which I always find frustrating with the older model I have).

    I would lean toward the 310 rather than 210 just to get the extra HDMI out. If you have a 3D display but not a 3D AVR this could be important.

    If they are still offering the 3D copy of Avatar the Panasonic is a stellar bargain. I sold my copy on Ebay for $90 so I basically paid $79 for my 210.
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  • DMara
    DMara Posts: 1,434
    edited July 2011
    dragon1952 wrote: »
    If they are still offering the 3D copy of Avatar the Panasonic is a stellar bargain. I sold my copy on Ebay for $90 so I basically paid $79 for my 210.

    Yes, they're still offering it for people who purchased any of the DMP-BDT310, DMP-BDT210, DMP-BDT215, DMP-BDT110, or DMP-BDT115 between March 1st, 2011 and February 29, 2012. The Avatar 3D offer form was included in the box.
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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited July 2011
    DMara wrote: »
    I own a Panasonic DMP-BD35, my first Bluray player.
    I own a Panasonic DMP-BDT110P, it came free with my new Panasonic TC-P65VT3D plasma.
    I also own an Oppo Digital BDP-95.

    I was curious with your statement, so I decided to do some testing with those players connecting to the Panasonic plasma. I played some scenes from The Dark Knight and Tron Legacy Bluray discs as well as Eye Wide Shut and Sting's All This Time concert DVD discs. To my eyes, the Oppo's video output was significantly more vibrant, more blackness, and more detailed (very clear edges of things with different colors). The difference wasn't subtle at all, clearly showing the Oppo to be the better device, especially when playing DVD movies.
    Oh well, I don't have your experience, therefore I couldn't see what you saw. To each his own.

    you can't be serious now man..

    how old is that Panny DMP BD35? i had the BD55 what about 3 yrs ago. no way can it compete with a newer blu ray player like the Oppo.. it's apples to oranges in your demo. Hands down the Oppo is going to look better than either Panny of 3 years older. :confused:

    each generation blu ray player is better than the previous one...
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  • DMara
    DMara Posts: 1,434
    edited July 2011
    danger boy wrote: »
    you can't be serious now man..

    how old is that Panny DMP BD35? i had the BD55 what about 3 yrs ago. no way can it compete with a newer blu ray player like the Oppo.. it's apples to oranges in your demo. Hands down the Oppo is going to look better than either Panny of X years older. :confused:

    each generation blu ray player is better than the previous one...

    What? How about the DMP-BDT110P which was on my list? It's definitely younger than the Oppo, duh :tongue:
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  • DMara
    DMara Posts: 1,434
    edited July 2011
    danger boy wrote: »
    what brand is your TV display? I am a big fan of matching TV and blu ray player brands.. they are designed to give you the best picture from both, since they are the same brands.

    I used two different panny blu ray players over the years.. not till I matched both my Samsung blu ray with my Samsung TV did I realize how much better the picture quality was.
    danger boy wrote: »
    you can't be serious now man..

    how old is that Panny DMP BD35? i had the BD55 what about 3 yrs ago. no way can it compete with a newer blu ray player like the Oppo.. it's apples to oranges in your demo. Hands down the Oppo is going to look better than either Panny of X years older. :confused:

    each generation blu ray player is better than the previous one...

    And would you please let us know which models of Panasonic & Samsung Bluray players you owned and tested? What do you mean when you said you used them Panasonic "over the years"? Does that mean your Samsung Bluray player was newer than them? Did they belong to the same generation as your Samsung?

    I simply don't understand your "each generation blu ray player is better than the previous one" statement. Does it mean a Bluray player from last year would be inferior to any current Bluray player regardless of name brands? In that case, does that mean the Oppo BDP-83 would be worse than any 2011 Bluray players?
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    Living room:
    LSiM707's / LSiM706c / LSiM702 F/X's / dual JL Audio Fathom F113's / Parasound Halo A51 / Panasonic 65" TC-P65VT50
    Bedroom:
    Usher Dancer Mini 2 Diamond DMD's / Logitech SB Touch / W4S STP-SE / W4S DAC-2 / W4S ST-1000 / Samsung 52" LN52B750
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited July 2011
    It certainly could be possible for a manufacturer to tweak their gear to work best with each other, but it is unlikely. These things are designed and tested against a standard, and any deviation from it would be noticed by a reviewer. Also, since the manufacturer has no idea who will review their gear, and with what equipment, it is not in their interest to deviate from the standard, since it could result in a bad review. Furthermore, the average consumer has a hard time telling the difference between a Bluray movie and a 480P broadcast show.

    I guess I will just buy the Oppo TV to go with my BDP-93.

    Of course, if you are using a $1000 HDMI cable then all bets are off. :wink:
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  • DMara
    DMara Posts: 1,434
    edited July 2011
    BlueFox wrote: »
    It certainly could be possible for a manufacturer to tweak their gear to work best with each other, but it is unlikely. These things are designed and tested against a standard, and any deviation from it would be noticed by a reviewer. Also, since the manufacturer has no idea who will review their gear, and with what equipment, it is not in their interest to deviate from the standard, since it could result in a bad review. Furthermore, the average consumer has a hard time telling the difference between a Bluray movie and a 480P broadcast show.

    I guess I will just buy the Oppo TV to go with my BDP-93.

    Of course, if you are using a $1000 HDMI cable then all bets are off. :wink:


    Not only that, it would limit the amount of players they could sell once the words were out that it's better to match your TV with a Bluray player of the same manufacturer. With such standard, how in the hell can Samsung sell their players to any owner of Panasonic, Sony, Vizio, Mitsubishi, etc. TV? They'd rather compete against other brands via audio video quality regardless of what kind of TV the disc player is connected to.
    The good thing about matching brand is the interconnect functions such as Panasonic Viera Link, Samsung Anynet+...
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    Usher Dancer Mini 2 Diamond DMD's / Logitech SB Touch / W4S STP-SE / W4S DAC-2 / W4S ST-1000 / Samsung 52" LN52B750
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  • breal74
    breal74 Posts: 324
    edited July 2011
    dragon1952 wrote: »
    If they are still offering the 3D copy of Avatar the Panasonic is a stellar bargain. I sold my copy on Ebay for $90 so I basically paid $79 for my 210.

    Thanks for the heads up Dragon. That is a hell of a bargin!
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  • dragon1952
    dragon1952 Posts: 4,907
    edited July 2011
    breal74 wrote: »
    Thanks for the heads up Dragon. That is a hell of a bargin!

    You have to wait about 6 weeks or so to receive the movie after mailing the offer form, but you can check Ebay completed sales for the current going rate. They have been selling very well and people will pay a lot for them. I think I put it up at $90 Buy-It-Now or Best Offer with free shipping and it sold in about 5 days. The guy didn't even submit a lower offer.
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited July 2011
    How much longer does Panasonic have this deal before Avatar 3D is available on all platforms?
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  • breal74
    breal74 Posts: 324
    edited July 2011
    Picked up the 210 brand new for $139. With a free copy of Avatar 3D, I could not pass it up. Thanks again Dragon!
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  • hockeyboy
    hockeyboy Posts: 1,428
    edited July 2011
    Now I'm thinking about getting a 310. It's $189 most places and can sell that Avatar for about $60 on Ebay. Where did you get that 210 for 139?
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    LSi 15's (Front)
    LSiC (Center)
    LSiFx (Surrounds)
    DUAL SVS 20-39 CS Plus     (Passive Subs)
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