Looking for users of Emotiva XPA-5 amp

KennyD3
KennyD3 Posts: 7
edited December 2010 in Electronics
Looking for users out there of the EMOTIVA XPA-5 amp. Does anyone have experience with this amp? Would you recommend hooking it up with the DENON AVR 3311CI receiver? I am setting up a home system with LSI 15, LSI 9 and LSI center and want have a 5 channel amp to power them. I am not sure what to invest the best value in; like a ROTEL, ADCOM or NAD amp - a lot more money. The Emotiva is priced at $700. It seems like a good deal.

Thanks for any info : )
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  • rdb2001
    rdb2001 Posts: 791
    edited December 2010
    What is the primary purpose of your system HT or music.
  • angelsfann02
    angelsfann02 Posts: 589
    edited December 2010
    I have posted about buying this amp also. If you search this and other internet forums, I found that this topic ( Emotiva Xpa) has been beaten like a drum. I have the same speakers as yourself, furthermore I have also been on the Emotiva website with the XPA5 in my "cart" and something tells me to wait each time....The senior members here are quite wise and most advise on going a different route for amplification. Probably the only reason I even consider Emotiva and the XPA5 for that matter, is the 5 Year warranty and the fact that it is in my budget. Thats why I keep a look out on C.L, Fleabay, and Audiogon hoping for that good buy on a Parasound, Rotel, or other proven amp. We'll see what happens! F.Y.I I have read that Emo Xpa5 users say this amp makes their LSi's quite "bright"
    LIVING ROOM:
    Pioneer PDP-6070HD, Pioneer Elite SC-25, Pioneer Elite BDP-05FD,
    Emotiva XPA-5, Emotiva USP-1, Polk LSI15's, Polk LSiC, Velodyne 12", Mirage Nanosat Prestige rears, MIT AVT Speaker Cables, Audioquest King Cobra Interconnects, Panamax M5300pm Surge Protection/ Power Conditioning
    BEDROOM: VIZIO 32" LCD, Pioneer Elite VSX-23txh, Pioneer Elite BDP-23FD, Parasound HCA-2205A, Mirage Nanosat Prestige Speakers 5.1, Mirage S8 Sub, Monoprice cables, APC Surge Protection.
  • angelsfann02
    angelsfann02 Posts: 589
    edited December 2010
    LIVING ROOM:
    Pioneer PDP-6070HD, Pioneer Elite SC-25, Pioneer Elite BDP-05FD,
    Emotiva XPA-5, Emotiva USP-1, Polk LSI15's, Polk LSiC, Velodyne 12", Mirage Nanosat Prestige rears, MIT AVT Speaker Cables, Audioquest King Cobra Interconnects, Panamax M5300pm Surge Protection/ Power Conditioning
    BEDROOM: VIZIO 32" LCD, Pioneer Elite VSX-23txh, Pioneer Elite BDP-23FD, Parasound HCA-2205A, Mirage Nanosat Prestige Speakers 5.1, Mirage S8 Sub, Monoprice cables, APC Surge Protection.
  • LessisNevermore
    LessisNevermore Posts: 1,519
    edited December 2010
  • Sherardp
    Sherardp Posts: 8,038
    edited December 2010
    Consider Outlaw Audio or Sunfire as well.
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  • eclimax13
    eclimax13 Posts: 168
    edited December 2010
    well coming from someone who has everything youve listed except i have lsi25...i can tell you that its a fantastic setup for music or movies..i used to run a rotel rmb-1075 and it was great until i really wanted to turn it up and then it ran out of steam...the emotiva took care of all of it and sounded equal to the rotel...maybe a bit of improved top end...i a/b'd these two amps for 4 hours and came to this conclusion

    as far as the brightness is concerned all i had to do was drop the 4k in my denon and all is well

    while is not the only amp out there...it is a strong contender and the price point can not be beat.
    Theater: Epson 8500ub, Elite 120" screen, Lsic, Lsi25, Lsifx, SVS Pc12plus, SVS Pc12plus, Emotiva Xpa-5, Denon Avr3311ci, Sony Bdps1000es
    Living Room: Panasonic TCP58VT25, PS3, Energy FPS, Onkyo Tx sr707, Sony Ps3, DswmicroPro 2000
    Bed Room: Panasonic TCP50x1, Samsung Bd c7500
    Weight Room: Panasonic TCP46G10, Polk Pswi225, PS3
  • leroyjr1
    leroyjr1 Posts: 8,785
    edited December 2010
    I owned the Rotel 1075 and 1095 and thought the 1095 was a big improvement. So Rotel would be my choice.
  • KennyD3
    KennyD3 Posts: 7
    edited December 2010
    THANK YOU to all your responses! I appreciate the effort in sharing your knowledge / experience.

    Question: Does the LSi25's sound AWESOME compared to the 15's? Are they worth the extra $? Do the 15's put out a lot of low bass? I also have a PWPRO500 Sub. My room is about 15x20.

    Also, are the other amps that cost 1200+ worth spending over the 700 for the Emotiva? Just looking for the BEST value and sound within some what of a budget.

    Thanks for helping me in this learning curve!
  • angelsfann02
    angelsfann02 Posts: 589
    edited December 2010
    I have the Lsi15's, and I use a sub to handle my lows. If Im not mistaken the Lsi25's are a bit taller and have a built in amp, but if you are thinkng about buying external amplfication you wont need it. I prefer to let my sub handle the bass.
    LIVING ROOM:
    Pioneer PDP-6070HD, Pioneer Elite SC-25, Pioneer Elite BDP-05FD,
    Emotiva XPA-5, Emotiva USP-1, Polk LSI15's, Polk LSiC, Velodyne 12", Mirage Nanosat Prestige rears, MIT AVT Speaker Cables, Audioquest King Cobra Interconnects, Panamax M5300pm Surge Protection/ Power Conditioning
    BEDROOM: VIZIO 32" LCD, Pioneer Elite VSX-23txh, Pioneer Elite BDP-23FD, Parasound HCA-2205A, Mirage Nanosat Prestige Speakers 5.1, Mirage S8 Sub, Monoprice cables, APC Surge Protection.
  • moe
    moe Posts: 48
    edited December 2010
    I have posted about buying this amp also. If you search this and other internet forums, I found that this topic ( Emotiva Xpa) has been beaten like a drum. I have the same speakers as yourself, furthermore I have also been on the Emotiva website with the XPA5 in my "cart" and something tells me to wait each time....The senior members here are quite wise and most advise on going a different route for amplification. Probably the only reason I even consider Emotiva and the XPA5 for that matter, is the 5 Year warranty and the fact that it is in my budget. Thats why I keep a look out on C.L, Fleabay, and Audiogon hoping for that good buy on a Parasound, Rotel, or other proven amp. We'll see what happens! F.Y.I I have read that Emo Xpa5 users say this amp makes their LSi's quite "bright"

    That's kinda funny since I had a Parasound that hummed and a Rotel hissed.I do still think they are good amps, no better than Emotiva.
  • DMara
    DMara Posts: 1,434
    edited December 2010
    F.Y.I I have read that Emo Xpa5 users say this amp makes their LSi's quite "bright"


    I'm using both XPA-5 & XPA2. Neither was "quite 'bright'" for my lsi's 5.1 or 2-channel sets :tongue: I've been very happy with that investment. Of course the brightness might be an issue if you are using a not-good-enough audio processor.
    Gears shared to both living room & bedroom:
    Integra DHC-80.3 / Oppo BDP-105 / DirecTV HR24 DVR /APC S15blk PC-UPS
    Living room:
    LSiM707's / LSiM706c / LSiM702 F/X's / dual JL Audio Fathom F113's / Parasound Halo A51 / Panasonic 65" TC-P65VT50
    Bedroom:
    Usher Dancer Mini 2 Diamond DMD's / Logitech SB Touch / W4S STP-SE / W4S DAC-2 / W4S ST-1000 / Samsung 52" LN52B750
    Other rooms:
    Audioengine AP4's / GLOW Audio Sub One / audio-gd NFB-3 DAC / Audioengine N22
    audio-gd NFB-10.2 / Denon AH-D7000
  • angelsfann02
    angelsfann02 Posts: 589
    edited December 2010
    DMara wrote: »
    I'm using both XPA-5 & XPA2. Neither was "quite 'bright'" for my lsi's 5.1 or 2-channel sets :tongue: I've been very happy with that investment. Of course the brightness might be an issue if you are using a not-good-enough audio processor.

    Guess I will find out about the Emotiva & Lsi series speakers since I ordered my Xpa5 today. I let you know if they sound bright to me. We are running the same speakers and all just different cables.
    LIVING ROOM:
    Pioneer PDP-6070HD, Pioneer Elite SC-25, Pioneer Elite BDP-05FD,
    Emotiva XPA-5, Emotiva USP-1, Polk LSI15's, Polk LSiC, Velodyne 12", Mirage Nanosat Prestige rears, MIT AVT Speaker Cables, Audioquest King Cobra Interconnects, Panamax M5300pm Surge Protection/ Power Conditioning
    BEDROOM: VIZIO 32" LCD, Pioneer Elite VSX-23txh, Pioneer Elite BDP-23FD, Parasound HCA-2205A, Mirage Nanosat Prestige Speakers 5.1, Mirage S8 Sub, Monoprice cables, APC Surge Protection.
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,916
    edited December 2010
    Living room:
    * LSi15's
    * LSiC
    * LSiFX's
    * DSW microPRO 4000

    What was your rational in your choice to power them? :confused:
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 33,077
    edited December 2010
    I'm sure it was price Jess. Kinda like buying a Corvette and putting fiberglass tires on it.
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    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

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    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
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  • eclimax13
    eclimax13 Posts: 168
    edited December 2010
    Guess I will find out about the Emotiva & Lsi series speakers since I ordered my Xpa5 today. I let you know if they sound bright to me. We are running the same speakers and all just different cables.

    well i can tell you with every movie i watch im really loving the emotiva...although i do feel its the added power rather than the amp that it making things sound so much smoother and more dynamic...the rmb 1075 just gave out during very dynamic scenes and loud music..
    i wonder how the 1095 would do but have no plans to find out, the xpa 5 lacks in no department
    Theater: Epson 8500ub, Elite 120" screen, Lsic, Lsi25, Lsifx, SVS Pc12plus, SVS Pc12plus, Emotiva Xpa-5, Denon Avr3311ci, Sony Bdps1000es
    Living Room: Panasonic TCP58VT25, PS3, Energy FPS, Onkyo Tx sr707, Sony Ps3, DswmicroPro 2000
    Bed Room: Panasonic TCP50x1, Samsung Bd c7500
    Weight Room: Panasonic TCP46G10, Polk Pswi225, PS3
  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 18,145
    edited December 2010
    eclimax13 wrote: »
    the xpa 5 lacks in no department

    Wrong!!!!
  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited December 2010
    The "in your face" characteristics of the XPA amps make them something that i might consider for movies on a budget (though the Rotel for sale in the market here offers a better value imo), but i wouldn't be caught dead trying an XPA in my 2-channel again.

    The XPAs are good if you want to be literally assaulted and molested by your music. If that's your "thing," then i'm not one to judge. It's just not my "thing."

    If it's pretty blue lights you seek, look at Anthem.
    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

    Living Room: B&K Reference 5 S2 / Parasound HCA-1000A / Emotiva XDA-2 / Pioneer BDP-51FD / Paradigm 11se MKiii

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  • eclimax13
    eclimax13 Posts: 168
    edited December 2010
    The "in your face" characteristics of the XPA amps make them something that i might consider for movies on a budget (though the Rotel for sale in the market here offers a better value imo), but i wouldn't be caught dead trying an XPA in my 2-channel again.

    The XPAs are good if you want to be literally assaulted and molested by your music. If that's your "thing," then i'm not one to judge. It's just not my "thing."

    If it's pretty blue lights you seek, look at Anthem.

    i will agree with you that at first its a bit "rip off your eyebrows-ish" when listening to music at a decent volume....but like i said, a little 4k reduction took care of all of that
    Theater: Epson 8500ub, Elite 120" screen, Lsic, Lsi25, Lsifx, SVS Pc12plus, SVS Pc12plus, Emotiva Xpa-5, Denon Avr3311ci, Sony Bdps1000es
    Living Room: Panasonic TCP58VT25, PS3, Energy FPS, Onkyo Tx sr707, Sony Ps3, DswmicroPro 2000
    Bed Room: Panasonic TCP50x1, Samsung Bd c7500
    Weight Room: Panasonic TCP46G10, Polk Pswi225, PS3
  • Polkie2009
    Polkie2009 Posts: 3,834
    edited December 2010
    I was thinking the same thing concealer, on that Rotel for sale. Looks like a sweet price someone should jump on it.
  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited December 2010
    eclimax13 wrote: »
    i will agree with you that at first its a bit "rip off your eyebrows-ish" when listening to music at a decent volume....but like i said, a little 4k reduction took care of all of that

    Tone controls/EQs are bandaids to mask a larger problem in my opinion, but if it works for you, it works for you. :smile:
    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

    Living Room: B&K Reference 5 S2 / Parasound HCA-1000A / Emotiva XDA-2 / Pioneer BDP-51FD / Paradigm 11se MKiii

    Desk: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / ISK HD9999

    Office: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / Dynaco SCA-80Q / Paradigm Legend V.3

    HT: Denon AVR-X3400H / Sony UBP-X700 / RT16 / CS350LS / RT7 / SVS PB1000
  • Joe08867
    Joe08867 Posts: 3,919
    edited December 2010
    That is a shame I would have suggested Rotel over Emotive. For the money your spending on the Speakers why would you go Emo. Kind of like buying a Ferrari and putting regular in the tank.
  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,972
    edited December 2010
    Tone controls/EQs are bandaids to mask a larger problem in my opinion, but if it works for you, it works for you. :smile:


    +1 to this... tone controls are good for hiding other problems in the system, and nothing else. After hearing what a very good set-up can do without them, I have never used them since.
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,545
    edited December 2010
    tone controls = evil.
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  • cstmar01
    cstmar01 Posts: 4,424
    edited December 2010
    Emo is fine for intro HT.

    I had their stuff for awhile and while it was ok for HT, 2 channel was just not good and blah.

    Agree with Ben on how it sounds for 2 channel, not my thing, nor would it ever be again.

    and tone controls, yuck. Won't touch it for 2 channel, HT yeah sure, 2 channel leave me alone tone control.
  • moodyman
    moodyman Posts: 45
    edited December 2010
  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited December 2010
    I may have stated my point a little harshly.

    As always, consider my statements a matter of personal opinion, and not fact as viewed by whoever may be reading them. Others may have heard the warmth commonly associated with the crooning of an angelic choir. I'm merely saying that i didn't.
    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

    Living Room: B&K Reference 5 S2 / Parasound HCA-1000A / Emotiva XDA-2 / Pioneer BDP-51FD / Paradigm 11se MKiii

    Desk: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / ISK HD9999

    Office: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / Dynaco SCA-80Q / Paradigm Legend V.3

    HT: Denon AVR-X3400H / Sony UBP-X700 / RT16 / CS350LS / RT7 / SVS PB1000
  • Joe08867
    Joe08867 Posts: 3,919
    edited December 2010
    I don't even have tone controls on my preamp.

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  • DMara
    DMara Posts: 1,434
    edited December 2010
    F1nut wrote: »
    What was your rational in your choice to power them? :confused:

    It's because my Denon AVR-4810ci would run extremely hot with all 7 lsi speakers plugging in to it directly as well as the audio output then became a bit muddy to my ears.

    Edit: rereading a few more comments after yours, I think you were asking me why I chose Emotiva instead of other amps for my lsi speakers. Well, at first it was because of pricing. I purchased the XPA-5 to test it out, assuring myself I could return it during the 30-day trial period. Once I plugged it in, sound output really pleased my ears, especiall the smoothness of the lsi speakers when playing concert BD's such as Andrea Bocelli's Vivere & Chris Botti - In Boston. Just a few months ago I discovered my uncle who lived nearby owned a Sunfire Cinema Grand Signature 5-channel. I was able to ask him to bring it to my place so that I can try it out. Just my opinion, but the output is just as good as the XPA-5, therefore I did not hesitate to proclaim my love for my XPA-5 & XPA-2. That's my 2cents.
    Gears shared to both living room & bedroom:
    Integra DHC-80.3 / Oppo BDP-105 / DirecTV HR24 DVR /APC S15blk PC-UPS
    Living room:
    LSiM707's / LSiM706c / LSiM702 F/X's / dual JL Audio Fathom F113's / Parasound Halo A51 / Panasonic 65" TC-P65VT50
    Bedroom:
    Usher Dancer Mini 2 Diamond DMD's / Logitech SB Touch / W4S STP-SE / W4S DAC-2 / W4S ST-1000 / Samsung 52" LN52B750
    Other rooms:
    Audioengine AP4's / GLOW Audio Sub One / audio-gd NFB-3 DAC / Audioengine N22
    audio-gd NFB-10.2 / Denon AH-D7000
  • cstmar01
    cstmar01 Posts: 4,424
    edited December 2010
    DMara wrote: »
    It's because my Denon AVR-4810ci would run extremely hot with all 7 lsi speakers plugging in to it directly as well as the audio output then became a bit muddy to my ears.

    yeahhhhh....

    thats because the AVR is not ment to see a 4 ohm load so I could see how hooking up an amp that can do 4 ohms would be an improvment.
  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited December 2010
    DMara wrote: »
    Just a few months ago I discovered my uncle who lived nearby owned a Sunfire Cinema Grand Signature 5-channel. I was able to ask him to bring it to my place so that I can try it out. Just my opinion, but the output is just as good as the XPA-5, therefore I did not hesitate to proclaim my love for my XPA-5 & XPA-2. That's my 2cents.

    Heh. There's irony in there.

    The last Indiana Gathering i went to, we all realized at the same time (though we didn't tell john, because we didn't want to make him cry :tongue:) that the Sunfire Grand Signature that he brought sounded EXACTLY LIKE THE XPA-2.

    I would bet good money that the two amps are more than just kissing cousins.
    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

    Living Room: B&K Reference 5 S2 / Parasound HCA-1000A / Emotiva XDA-2 / Pioneer BDP-51FD / Paradigm 11se MKiii

    Desk: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / ISK HD9999

    Office: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / Dynaco SCA-80Q / Paradigm Legend V.3

    HT: Denon AVR-X3400H / Sony UBP-X700 / RT16 / CS350LS / RT7 / SVS PB1000