Help me find a good AVR

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  • themuskr
    themuskr Posts: 149
    edited September 2010
    haha yeah, i have been thinking a lot lately lol. I think that in my case the preouts are not really necessary. I think i'm going to be running satellites, or bookshelfs for quite a few years with me being in college. Switching to full size speakers for me means upgrading everything which isn't going to happen for quite a while. Right now i am very happy with the size Vs. sound with my mirage setup.
    2 Mirage OMD-5's (burled Maple)
    1 Mirage OMD-C1
    4 Mirage nanosat MX
    Mirage MM-6
    Def Tech Prosub 100
    Pioneer Elite vsx-40
    BJC cable
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  • PrazVT
    PrazVT Posts: 1,607
    edited September 2010
    So then it's down to the Denon AVR-1911 and Pioneer VSX-1020 or Pioneer Elite VSX-30?
    Dali Optikon 1Mk2
    NAD D3020 V2
    Schiit Bifrost 2/64

    ..the rest are headphone setups.
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  • themuskr
    themuskr Posts: 149
    edited September 2010
    PrazVT wrote: »
    So then it's down to the Denon AVR-1911 and Pioneer VSX-1020 or Pioneer Elite VSX-30?

    Yes unless someone else has a suggestion of something else
    2 Mirage OMD-5's (burled Maple)
    1 Mirage OMD-C1
    4 Mirage nanosat MX
    Mirage MM-6
    Def Tech Prosub 100
    Pioneer Elite vsx-40
    BJC cable
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  • mole'
    mole' Posts: 3,160
    edited September 2010
    Pioneer Elite FTW!
    mole'
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  • themuskr
    themuskr Posts: 149
    edited September 2010
    What are the differences between the vsx-30 and the 1020?
    2 Mirage OMD-5's (burled Maple)
    1 Mirage OMD-C1
    4 Mirage nanosat MX
    Mirage MM-6
    Def Tech Prosub 100
    Pioneer Elite vsx-40
    BJC cable
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  • PrazVT
    PrazVT Posts: 1,607
    edited September 2010
    Feature-wise, they are almost identical. I think the VSX-30 has better amp circuitry, and probably slightly better DSP, DACs; it has PQLS 2 channel CD audio, usb photo playback, video adjustments. The 1020 has 6 HDMI vs 4 for the VSX-30. The 1020 has anchor bay upscaling, whereas the VSX-30 has 1080p upscaling but they don't say by who.

    Given the close prices I'd probably take the Elite on instinct ;) But perhaps you Pioneer owners can explain some of these feature differences...

    VSX-30 product sheet

    VSX-1020 product sheet

    And just for kicks...if we throw in the Denon ... feature-wise you lose internet radio, gain HD radio, and gain 10wpc. The rest is the same +/- different verbage.
    Dali Optikon 1Mk2
    NAD D3020 V2
    Schiit Bifrost 2/64

    ..the rest are headphone setups.
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  • messiah
    messiah Posts: 1,790
    edited September 2010
    themuskr wrote: »
    Yes unless someone else has a suggestion of something else

    Yeah, the Pioneer Elite sc-05 totally smokes what you are looking at getting. Mole' mentioned it, and for whatever reason you just ignored it. To be blunt, the receivers you are looking at suck in comparison. Just an honest FYI.
    "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
    Benjamin Franklin, February 17th, 1775.

    "The day that I have to give up my constitutional rights AND let some dude rub my junk...well, let's just say that it's gonna be a real bad day for the dude trying to rub my junk!!"
    messiah, November 23rd, 2010
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  • mole'
    mole' Posts: 3,160
    edited September 2010
    if you look around, im sure you could find a nice used SC-05 in your price range.
    mole'
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 33,068
    edited September 2010
    http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/ele/1960331243.html

    Here's a Denon for a good price if your stuck on that brand. Check your local listings too.
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1420
    lsi 9's
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 33,068
    edited September 2010
    http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/ele/1960186063.html
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1420
    lsi 9's
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  • dpowell
    dpowell Posts: 3,081
    edited September 2010
    +1 on the Pioneer Elite recommendation. Best AVR I've owned.
    ____________________________________________________________

    polkaudio Fully Modded SDA SRS 1.2TLs + Dreadnaught, LSiM706c, 4 X Polk Surrounds + 4 X ATMOS, SVS PB13 Ultra X 2, McIntosh C2300, Marantz AV7704, Bob Carver Crimson Beauty 350 Tube Mono Blocks, Carver Sunfire Signature Cinema Grande 400x5, ADCOM GFA 7807, Panasonic UB420, Sim Audio Moon 380D DAC, EPSON Pro Cinema 6050
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  • themuskr
    themuskr Posts: 149
    edited September 2010
    messiah wrote: »
    Yeah, the Pioneer Elite sc-05 totally smokes what you are looking at getting. Mole' mentioned it, and for whatever reason you just ignored it. To be blunt, the receivers you are looking at suck in comparison. Just an honest FYI.

    That is also why it is more than double my budget...
    2 Mirage OMD-5's (burled Maple)
    1 Mirage OMD-C1
    4 Mirage nanosat MX
    Mirage MM-6
    Def Tech Prosub 100
    Pioneer Elite vsx-40
    BJC cable
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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited September 2010
    Rather than playing the 'one-up-manship-game'. The Pioneer VSX-1120 is a nice middle ground between the 1020 and the ELITE ICE amps. It has many of the features of the entry Elites and a more powerful amp section than the 1020.

    http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Products/HomeEntertainment/AV-Receivers/PioneerReceivers/ci.VSX-1120-K.Kuro

    At $749 MSRP, I'm pretty sure you could find it on sale for less. But it seems like you've gone 1020 already?

    cnh
    Currently orbiting Bowie's Blackstar.!

    Polk Lsi-7s, Def Tech 8" sub, HK 3490, HK HD 990 (CDP/DAC), AKG Q701s
    [sig. changed on a monthly basis as I rotate in and out of my stash]
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  • rdb2001
    rdb2001 Posts: 791
    edited September 2010
    Marantz SR7002. They are on closeout because the new 7005 just dropped. I have owned pio elites, denon, onkyo, hk, and yamaha. This is by far the best receiver I have owned IMHO.
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  • themuskr
    themuskr Posts: 149
    edited September 2010
    cnh wrote: »
    Rather than playing the 'one-up-manship-game'. The Pioneer VSX-1120 is a nice middle ground between the 1020 and the ELITE ICE amps. It has many of the features of the entry Elites and a more powerful amp section than the 1020.

    http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Products/HomeEntertainment/AV-Receivers/PioneerReceivers/ci.VSX-1120-K.Kuro

    At $749 MSRP, I'm pretty sure you could find it on sale for less. But it seems like you've gone 1020 already?

    cnh

    Thank you. And I have till November to make a decision. I just think the elite would be overkill for my setup. I don't need lots of power by any means just good clean quality power and plenty of features. With satellites bigger isn't always better. But back on topic I'm really liking the vsx-30
    2 Mirage OMD-5's (burled Maple)
    1 Mirage OMD-C1
    4 Mirage nanosat MX
    Mirage MM-6
    Def Tech Prosub 100
    Pioneer Elite vsx-40
    BJC cable
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  • B Run
    B Run Posts: 1,888
    edited September 2010
    +1 on the 1120, it's pretty much a vsx 33 without the 12v trigger. It'll sound better than the vsx30 and newegg just had them for 450!
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  • themuskr
    themuskr Posts: 149
    edited September 2010
    Dang! if i saw the 1120 for that price i would have gotten it now!
    2 Mirage OMD-5's (burled Maple)
    1 Mirage OMD-C1
    4 Mirage nanosat MX
    Mirage MM-6
    Def Tech Prosub 100
    Pioneer Elite vsx-40
    BJC cable
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  • B Run
    B Run Posts: 1,888
    edited September 2010
    Sorry I meant $550, which is still a great price!
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  • themuskr
    themuskr Posts: 149
    edited September 2010
    Haha I thought that was low! But 550 is still some serious bang for the buck
    2 Mirage OMD-5's (burled Maple)
    1 Mirage OMD-C1
    4 Mirage nanosat MX
    Mirage MM-6
    Def Tech Prosub 100
    Pioneer Elite vsx-40
    BJC cable
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  • messiah
    messiah Posts: 1,790
    edited September 2010
    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=106925

    This might be a good option.
    "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
    Benjamin Franklin, February 17th, 1775.

    "The day that I have to give up my constitutional rights AND let some dude rub my junk...well, let's just say that it's gonna be a real bad day for the dude trying to rub my junk!!"
    messiah, November 23rd, 2010
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  • PrazVT
    PrazVT Posts: 1,607
    edited September 2010
    Hmm yeah I saw that one too. Aside from the fact that it doesn't natively decode blu-ray audio formats, it's an awesome deal.

    And even that isn't too much of an issue, since you just let your blu-ray player (or PS3) decode the DTS HD / Dolby True HD tracks, and send them to the receiver as multichannel PCM. The RX-V2700 HDMI accepts multi-channel PCM (8ch up to 24bit / 192khz).

    Otherwise 140w x 7 for $415 looks promising.
    Dali Optikon 1Mk2
    NAD D3020 V2
    Schiit Bifrost 2/64

    ..the rest are headphone setups.
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  • themuskr
    themuskr Posts: 149
    edited September 2010
    I'll keep my eye on that
    2 Mirage OMD-5's (burled Maple)
    1 Mirage OMD-C1
    4 Mirage nanosat MX
    Mirage MM-6
    Def Tech Prosub 100
    Pioneer Elite vsx-40
    BJC cable
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