Divorce Sale Rti setup

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  • mmadden28
    mmadden28 Posts: 4,283
    edited March 2009
    TECHNOKID wrote: »
    Scary! I guess business is business, those people are there to make the money, not loose I guess they don't care about our problems! Again, what is the meaning or use for their existence!

    I look at it this way--when you go to a retailer and buy something and pay with a credit card, that retailer has to pay the credit card company a fee (2%?). Granted they don't usually try to pass that fee on to the buyer, but somebody has to pay that fee. Well except in the case of some retailers or Gas Stations that have different prices for CC or Cash transactions. :rolleyes:

    If you pay with PayPal, and PP is setup to use your Credit Card, who is supposed to pay the CC fee? Just like a CC, the seller is the one to pay that fee. What would their business model be if they charged nothing at all for any part of the service? How would they make any money for providing the service (which to me is a convenience/proxy service ultimately providing privacy of banking and credit card info).
    Besides, PP fees are charged to the seller, not the buyer. Its the sellers that often require the buyer to pay the fees and that has nothing to do with PP.


    eBay owns PayPal, and it is in there best interest to make buyers using eBay feel secure about there transactions. Hence the enhanced buyer protection for eBay purchases-partly because they are controlling the transaction process.

    I'm sure there are many more PP and CC intricacies but, that is my general view and why I can accept some of the fees and some of the risk when not using eBay.
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  • TECHNOKID
    TECHNOKID Posts: 4,298
    edited March 2009
    I'm sure there are many more PP and CC intricacies but, that is my general view and why I can accept some of the fees and some of the risk when not using eBay.
    I see your logic however, realize that the business is still paying CC fees over the PP fees. As I am convinced you know, CCs offer fraud protection which PP doesn't seem to care about therefore, again what is the use of PP. Think about it and realize the commodity that the business is providing you is actually considered in his pricing therefore YOU/I/WE are actually paying the commodity!

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  • mmadden28
    mmadden28 Posts: 4,283
    edited March 2009
    TECHNOKID wrote: »
    I see your logic however, realize that the business is still paying CC fees over the PP fees. As I am convinced you know, CCs offer fraud protection which PP doesn't seem to care about therefore, again what is the use of PP. Think about it and realize the commodity that the business is providing you is actually considered in his pricing therefore YOU/I/WE are actually paying the commodity!

    Cheers :)

    With a CC, you (usually) pay finance charges to your bank and some actually pay a fee just to have the card. Sellers/Retailers pay CC fees. CC's are a convenience and loan (credit), the extra protection services are usually extras to get you to use their card over other cards or payment options.

    What fees are you paying as a buyer using PP? What CC fee's is the business paying if accepting PP as the payment when it never interfaces with the CC company. A retailer does not pay CC fees and PP fees in the same transaction as far as I know.

    I should note that I don't agree with how PP has their fee structure setup (esp when it seems they are dbl dipping the fees or charging higher rates when a buyer pays with a Debit or PP balance when no CC fees are in play), but that I can accept why they have fees at all.

    Maybe I'm just a little old school with it and remember when I used CCs when they didn't have the buyer protections like they do today. I also used PP when it first started and it certainly didn't have any of the protections then that it offers today.
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  • mmadden28
    mmadden28 Posts: 4,283
    edited March 2009
    TECHNOKID wrote: »
    ... again what is the use of PP.
    ...
    The purpose of PP to me is to allow buyers to use one common method of payment, that doesn't expose buyers banking or CC information to complete strangers. It makes internet transactions safer by reducing CC# theft and unauthorized reuse. It also allows regular people to send and receive money without having to setup an account, pay monthly fees, etc to support acceptance of CC transactions. I alleviates the privacy and protection requirements of sellers from having to protect CC# of buyers that they transacted with.. I'm sure there are some more reasons, but those are the main reasons I can think of. To me, eBay, and many online transactions, would not be what it is today if it weren't for PP or something similar to it.

    TECHNOKID wrote: »
    ... Think about it and realize the commodity that the business is providing you is actually considered in his pricing therefore YOU/I/WE are actually paying the commodity!
    ...

    That is business in general anywhere. You don't think that the cost of gas is figured into the landscapers business when providing you a lawn mowing service? Or the cost of CC fees aren't averaged into the price of a product at a B&M store? Or the fact that the phone companies itemize and pass on state and federal taxes to the consumer? (well at least in the US). Overhead is always factored into a product and is partially what drives market pricing.

    But that really has nothing to do with PP specifically and is exactly why I can accept the fact that they charge fees at all.
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  • TECHNOKID
    TECHNOKID Posts: 4,298
    edited March 2009
    Sorry mmadden28, I would have a few more questions and comments on the subject but looking back at the series of posts about PP, I am afraid we are moving away from the OP and I don't want to highjack this thread ;) I am sure we will have other opportunities to debate PP (or in my situation learn to trust it). In the mean time, I am convinced everyone feels bad that MrNightly couldn't get his money back through PP (justified or not).

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  • MrNightly
    MrNightly Posts: 3,370
    edited March 2009
    reeltrouble1 wrote: »
    Nightly you already know what you should do, so do it.

    Otherwise he gets away.

    RT1--gee, paypal sucks, shocking.

    Reel....

    I just am not sure I wanna open that can of worms ya know? It is only 400 dollars. Is it worth **** his life over? :D
















    Ahhh. forget it...

    I will pursue it. If nothing else, it gets my mind off the **** i'm in right now... and lets the detective side flex it's muscles a little bit.. :D This could be fun!
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  • rdefer
    rdefer Posts: 13
    edited October 2009
    RTI 70's are great speakers.
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  • BIZILL
    BIZILL Posts: 5,432
    edited October 2009
    lemme guess, you have some for sale? i'll buy. but ONLY if you charge me like 23% over MSRP.

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  • cstmar01
    cstmar01 Posts: 4,424
    edited October 2009
    rdefer wrote: »
    RTI 70's are great speakers.

    OMG wow that was so insightful and revealing, I feel like I really have had my eyes opened to the world now. Good lord, I know what I just posted was a bunch of BS but seriously, grow up. Its just as bad as the guy this weekend. and yes I'm a hater of anyone that does this. (pulls old threads to increase their count) in any forum.
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  • BeefJerky
    BeefJerky Posts: 1,320
    edited October 2009
    Interesting that this thread popped up again. On a serious note, to any of the guys that sent money but received no product or a defective product, please provide us with a status update. Thanks!
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  • DMara
    DMara Posts: 1,434
    edited October 2009
    BeefJerky wrote: »
    Interesting that this thread popped up again. On a serious note, to any of the guys that sent money but received no product or a defective product, please provide us with a status update. Thanks!

    What for? No matter what kind of status update is provided, the seller lost his credibility already. No need to make it a soap opera :D
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  • MrNightly
    MrNightly Posts: 3,370
    edited October 2009
    The matter is done and closed.

    Buyer beware!
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