Some talk me out of getting an Emotiva

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  • superjunior
    superjunior Posts: 1,632
    edited May 2009
    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    You must have farted or something Super... I smell it all the way here in Indiana.:p

    yeah, my farts are pretty bad, ask my wife, she's moving to Ind. as we speek :D kidding
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  • lightman1
    lightman1 Posts: 10,796
    edited May 2009
    superjunior wrote: »
    I'm pissed, I make 2 VERY freindly and uncondiscating posts, and I'm red flagged. Gonna stick to my guns though, GOD bless all who have made this a holiday. Whoever reported me, for whatever reason, you know who you are, are you that bitter?
    No need to get pissed Jr. I get flagged quite often. This may be only a slight glitch in the mod messaging set up. Easy there, Bwaana...
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  • lightman1
    lightman1 Posts: 10,796
    edited May 2009
    Did Cathy and Jesse ever kiss and make up??
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  • superjunior
    superjunior Posts: 1,632
    edited May 2009
    lightman1 wrote: »
    No need to get pissed Jr. I get flagged quite often. This may be only a slight glitch in the mod messaging set up. Easy there, Bwaana...Thanks, liight
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  • lightman1
    lightman1 Posts: 10,796
    edited May 2009
    superjunior wrote: »
    lightman1 wrote: »
    No need to get pissed Jr. I get flagged quite often. This may be only a slight glitch in the mod messaging set up. Easy there, Bwaana...Thanks, liight
    You're welcome. It's Russ from here on out.
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,932
    edited May 2009
    lightman1 wrote: »
    superjunior wrote: »
    You're welcome. It's Russ from here on out.
    turds..
    can I call you Russ too?....
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    “When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson

    How many flies need to be buzzing a dead horse before you guys stop beating it?
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,794
    edited May 2009
    And I stand by my posts with conviction. It's BS though when you consider some of the crap these trolls have left floating around here lately. Have infractions been handed out to them also?

    As I do and no, they have not.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

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  • jinjuku
    jinjuku Posts: 1,523
    edited May 2009
    TOOLFORLIFEFAN wrote: »
    WTH!!! :confused:

    I think he is using the same context for polk speakers (even though nice and a good value) that is used for Emotiva. That is simply using price basis for discrediting said product.

    Hense Emo isn't this or that because Emo's 3 channel amp is $599 when a Rotel/ATI/B&K would be $1500 or $3000.

    Like saying a LSi9 isn't a serious speaker because we all know that serious speakers cost $7500-$10,000.

    Why you couldn't see the point being made says a lot.
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  • jinjuku
    jinjuku Posts: 1,523
    edited May 2009
    F1nut wrote: »
    Well let's see Mike, so far I've been called the following; snob, arrogant, condescending & generally unhelpful, obnoxious, dumb & unimportant, bully and delusional.

    There are a few apt descriptions that you missed. One need look no farther than your post #20 to see the derailing of this thread.
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  • jinjuku
    jinjuku Posts: 1,523
    edited May 2009
    Keiko wrote: »
    And your point is?

    You make my point and I rest my case. Some of you don't 'get it'.
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  • jinjuku
    jinjuku Posts: 1,523
    edited May 2009
    Keiko wrote: »
    Point is you're just another troll. Got that?

    Takes one to know one. I won't ask if you got that because I know you don't get much.
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  • comfortablycurt
    comfortablycurt Posts: 6,745
    edited May 2009
    Interesting...

    I don't think Keiko is exactly what most people here would consider a troll.

    He's actually a valued forum member. He's given people lots of valuable advice, myself included. I've also seen him put up numerous Karma's since I've been here. I fail to see how Keiko is a troll.
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  • Matt34
    Matt34 Posts: 318
    edited May 2009
    comfortablycurt wrote: »
    I fail to see how Keiko is a troll.

    I can point out a few posts in this thread alone.
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  • speakergeek
    speakergeek Posts: 555
    edited May 2009
    Boy, hopefully this thread will be shut down REAL soon...:rolleyes: Totally useless.
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  • jinjuku
    jinjuku Posts: 1,523
    edited May 2009
    Keiko wrote: »
    You've already made it a point that you're ignorant. But do what ya gotta do.

    From what I have seen your one of the more abusive people on this board. The fact is that one of the usual suspects started the derailment of this thread on page one. How have you contributed materially to the original topic in this thread?

    I find it funny that Matt makes a perfectly salient point and that the some of the seasoned veterans didn't get it. It's sad that the seasoned veterans here decided to take another OP about an Emotiva product and derail it. It's a recurring theme around here with certain Polksters and Emotiva. They have an axe to grind but no actual honest to god proof that they can grind it with.
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 18,074
    edited May 2009
    jinjuku wrote: »
    I think he is using the same context for polk speakers (even though nice and a good value) that is used for Emotiva. That is simply using price basis for discrediting said product.

    Hense Emo isn't this or that because Emo's 3 channel amp is $599 when a Rotel/ATI/B&K would be $1500 or $3000.

    Like saying a LSi9 isn't a serious speaker because we all know that serious speakers cost $7500-$10,000.

    Why you couldn't see the point being made says a lot.


    And it says a lot about what?? I own 18 polk audio speakers and a emotiva XPA-3. and your post says what? NOTHING AT ALL.

    MOVE ON

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  • jinjuku
    jinjuku Posts: 1,523
    edited May 2009
    Keiko wrote: »
    Well let see, I did suggest to the OP to have a look at this as an option.

    http://www.ayonaudiousa.com/english/triton/f-triton.htm

    I would contribute more by correcting your vocabulary, but that would be useless. :rolleyes:

    I've never seen nothing from you anywhere that contributed anything to this forum. So, are you finished trolling now?

    LOL, I believe you truly have no bounds. The post/link that you are referring to is exactly your trolling I am talking about.

    You have a participant looking at a sub $800 amp. You post a link to an amp that is probably north of $10K as your contribution to the thread?

    Before you attempt to work on any one's vocabulary you might want to get your foot out of your mouth.
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  • jinjuku
    jinjuku Posts: 1,523
    edited May 2009
    TOOLFORLIFEFAN wrote: »
    And it says a lot about what?? I own 18 polk audio speakers and a emotiva XPA-3. and your post says what? NOTHING AT ALL.

    MOVE ON

    Check out the posts #20 and #28 that my comment was based on.

    Again certain people decided to derail a thread.
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  • comfortablycurt
    comfortablycurt Posts: 6,745
    edited May 2009
    How about you get it back on topic then jinjuku?

    By complaining about it, all you're doing is continuing the derailment of the thread.
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  • apphd
    apphd Posts: 1,514
    edited May 2009
    JohnLocke88 wrote: »
    .................
    I have seen this (Ricardo's Emotiva story)

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=78497&highlight=emotiva+sucks

    but stopped reading after I saw that it had 1,200 replies.

    and now you know what 1,995 of those replies were like so you didn't miss much. Unfortunately probably only learned very little as well. Such a shame for a good forum like this.:confused:
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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited May 2009
    Curt's right. Cool it BOYS!

    And as an addition here. Why is it that everything Emotiva makes is powered by a toroid of some kind? I've heard that it's DAMN hard to wind a good toroid...and therefore NOT ALL toroids are 'alike'; simply having a toroid doesn't necessarily mean anything. It's the quality of the unit that's important. But toroids denote power and better gear symbolically. So their use is strategic by some manufacturers.

    Now the question for the experts here, is what's an Emo toroid worth? And why?
    Ok, take it guys?

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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 18,074
    edited May 2009
    jinjuku wrote: »
    Check out the posts #20 and #28 that my comment was based on.

    Again certain people decided to derail a thread.

    And those two post's have to do with me how??:rolleyes:
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  • jinjuku
    jinjuku Posts: 1,523
    edited May 2009
    comfortablycurt wrote: »
    How about you get it back on topic then jinjuku?

    By complaining about it, all you're doing is continuing the derailment of the thread.

    This thread went off the rails at the end of page one. What is there to put back on?

    Doing a quick thread search has you with 11 posts starting at post 32. None of them here helping the OP or keeping the thread on topic.

    Pot meet kettle.
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  • jinjuku
    jinjuku Posts: 1,523
    edited May 2009
    TOOLFORLIFEFAN wrote: »
    And those two post's have to do with me how??:rolleyes:

    I don't know that they would have anything to do with you. You didn't seem to understand the clear point that Matt34 was making. It seems you still don't get it. At least I tried:rolleyes:
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  • comfortablycurt
    comfortablycurt Posts: 6,745
    edited May 2009
    jinjuku wrote: »
    I don't know that they would have anything to do with you. You didn't seem to understand the clear point that Matt34 was making. It seems you still don't get it. A least I tried:rolleyes:

    I think everyone gets it. The problem is that no one cares. Deal with it.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 29,444
    edited May 2009
    The difference between Polk and Emotiva is simple.

    Polk does not describe their product for being more than what it really is.

    I will never buy Emotiva simply on this fact. Outlaw is a far better representation of how a company in their market segment should carry theirself.

    They are great products at great prices. But hardly "reference gear"

    No snob here, I just like good gear - and none of my gear is considered reference...
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited May 2009
    jinjuku wrote: »
    Check out the posts #20 and #28 that my comment was based on.

    Again certain people decided to derail a thread.

    Your existance on page 7 & 8 has been nothing but a huge derail and as usual an exercise in trolling as well as putting down stand up members. This thread had basically started to die until you resurrected it to cause trouble again.
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,932
    edited May 2009
    jinjuku wrote: »
    This thread went off the rails at the end of page one. What is there to put back on?

    Doing a quick thread search has you with 11 posts starting at post 32. None of them here helping the OP or keeping the thread on topic.

    Pot meet kettle.

    .... from where I sit, Keiko has done more to assist the OP in this thread than you have done to help ANYONE ever on the entire forum! Keiko is a stand-up guy and has my respect and that of nearly the entire Polk community. What do you have? And trust me when I say whatever you thought you had before has faded to nothing. Go play with that imagination of yours somewhere else as it won't work here.
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  • Monster Jam
    Monster Jam Posts: 919
    edited May 2009
    JohnLocke88 wrote: »
    Hey guys; I've been talking about it for ages, but I think it's finally time to upgrade to an external amp just to see what all the rage is about.

    As you might be able to tell, I've been contemplating getting an Emotiva for some time, but I'm not convinced dropping money on an external amplifier is a good idea, unless I'm sure the outcome is worth the money.


    For what its worth, I am in a similar situation, JL88. I currently run 4 LSi15s and an LSiC off of a H/K AVR 525. Never clipped - sounds good. Some contributors on these message boards will swear to high heaven that the LSi speakers open up with (bell please) a mimimum of 200 wpc. Others on these boards might say "If it sounds good, then why add the additional amplification?"

    Well, you don't know till you try. And thats where the Emotiva comes in. It supplies the power, even if it isn't as "refined" as a mainstream name-brand. And with a low price point, the risk is minimized in the event that you haven't gained any improvement (even less if you consider that you can return it - as much of a hassle that is).

    Is an amp snake oil?
    Is an amp a marginal improvement over existing amplification?
    Is an amp significant improvement over existing amplification?
    Or is an amp audio bliss?

    In short, I don't think there is a reason to talk you out of an Emotive. In fact, I'd like you to take the plunge then report back how it faired. Your report would definately go a long way to my decision making.
    Do you hear that buzzing noise? :confused:
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  • speakergeek
    speakergeek Posts: 555
    edited May 2009
    The XPA-5 is one heck of an amp. Outlaw and other companies should be scared. Very scared...:D It doesn't weigh 75 lbs for nothing. You'll probably never see it reviewed in stereosnob, because it's below 3 grand....But it can compete with those. I think that's why people talk bad about Emotiva, because they can compete for such a low price.
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