Emotiva ERC-1

SolidSqual
SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
edited May 2009 in Electronics
http://emotiva.com/erc1.shtm

Hey, haven't heard much on the forum about this. Anybody had a chance to listen to one of these, or heard any interesting industry gossip?

Early B., you still considering one of these as an upgrade to your Bada? I like that they decided to include the XLR outputs. The specs look fantastic.

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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 29,402
    edited May 2009
    I read up on this piece for a while ---

    I pretty much decided I would never buy it before of the name that is on it. Unless it really was just THAT good...

    Looks like a solid player for $400 bucks.
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  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
    edited May 2009
    I read up on this piece for a while ---

    I pretty much decided I would never buy it before of the name that is on it. Unless it really was just THAT good...

    Looks like a solid player for $400 bucks.

    I wish it had tubes. My system is very very neutral after the source. I depend on tubes to add the magic right at the start, but all the separate power supplies and engineering makes me intrigued.

    It would be fun to test it against your shanling and your coming Symphonic Line CDP.
  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited May 2009
    SolidSqual wrote: »
    http://emotiva.com/erc1.shtm

    Early B., you still considering one of these as an upgrade to your Bada? I like that they decided to include the XLR outputs. The specs look fantastic.

    erc1_main.png

    Hell, no! I'm sure the ERC-1 will be fantastic, but haven't you heard -- tubes rule!! I expect it to be as good or better than the Cambridge Audio 840C.
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited May 2009
    SolidSqual wrote: »
    I wish it had tubes. My system is very very neutral after the source. I depend on tubes to add the magic right at the start, but all the separate power supplies and engineering makes me intrigued.

    It would be fun to test it against your shanling and your coming Symphonic Line CDP.

    Damn, you stole my tube moment. We were typing at the same time...
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 18,009
    edited May 2009
    The only thing i don't like about it is it won't play SACD's. I would have no problem owning it.
  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 29,402
    edited May 2009
    I like my preamp adding the tubes -- I want the CDP to be fairly neutral. -- If the ERC is about the same league as my Shanling - I won't even bother...

    My system with the new speakers and cables, the Shanling sounds like dog mess... very hard to listen to. It has alot of digital artifacts and noise...
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  • nikolas812
    nikolas812 Posts: 2,915
    edited May 2009
    I'll be getting one as soon as I can just to see what its all about...... And a UMC-1 if it ever gets released.:rolleyes:





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  • danz1906
    danz1906 Posts: 5,144
    edited May 2009
    Looks like a solid player-Good price:)
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  • olilugo
    olilugo Posts: 405
    edited May 2009
    I think this player is very promising, I did ask if this player had a DAC chip per channel and I never had an answer back. The DAC chip is the same as the 840C however the 840c uses 1 chip per channel.

    The ERC-1 will be available after May 15, so it is not out yet.
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited May 2009
    Early B. wrote: »
    Hell, no! I'm sure the ERC-1 will be fantastic, but haven't you heard -- tubes rule!! I expect it to be as good or better than the Cambridge Audio 840C.
    I find that very hard to believe. Plus the fact that it doesn't have digital inputs, makes it null in my book.
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  • LessisNevermore
    LessisNevermore Posts: 1,519
    edited May 2009
    Face wrote: »
    I find that very hard to believe. Plus the fact that it doesn't have digital inputs, makes it null in my book.


    Why would you want digital inputs on a cd player?
  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited May 2009
    So you don't need a separate DAC for other digital sources.
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  • mmadden28
    mmadden28 Posts: 4,283
    edited May 2009
    olilugo wrote: »
    I think this player is very promising, I did ask if this player had a DAC chip per channel and I never had an answer back. The DAC chip is the same as the 840C however the 840c uses 1 chip per channel.

    The ERC-1 will be available after May 15, so it is not out yet.

    IIRC it does not have a separate DAC per channel. It was originally dual mono DACs but then changed to single stereo DAC. I'll see if I can dig up the post.
    Here it is:
    ..... Was there a reason from Lonnie for the removal of the second DAC? Cost?
    .....
    I checked a prototype with single and dual DACs and you couldn't hear or measure any difference between them, so we decided to just go with the one multi-channel DAC and parallel the channels to correct for any errors. I guess we could have left it in there but it would have just been for bragging rights and not for any improved performance.
    Of course that was back in October--I haven't followed much lately so the specs could have changed.

    Here's a vid of Lonnie talking about it (in the beginning): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XflLmNQEtU4

    I also wish it had SACD and/or Digital inputs (to make use of the DAC for other components) but alas--I'm going to wait until the reviews are in.
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  • LarryK
    LarryK Posts: 38
    edited May 2009
    I see Oppo is going to start shipping the 'pre orders' of the BDP-83 toward the end of May. Re: SACD capabilities: The BDP-83 plays Super Audio CD (SACD) and supports both stereo and multi-channel high resolution audio programs. Users can select whether to output the DSD (Direct Stream Digital) signal in its native format or convert it into PCM.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,425
    edited May 2009
    mmadden28 wrote: »
    IIRC it does not have a separate DAC per channel. It was originally dual mono DACs but then changed to single stereo DAC. I'll see if I can dig up the post.
    Here it is:

    Of course that was back in October--I haven't followed much lately so the specs could have changed.

    Here's a vid of Lonnie talking about it (in the beginning): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XflLmNQEtU4

    I also wish it had SACD and/or Digital inputs (to make use of the DAC for other components) but alas--I'm going to wait until the reviews are in.

    Yeah, no difference :rolleyes:. That's why all higher end players have dual mono dac's............for bragging rights.

    I'm sure at some level this will be a nice player. Better than the Cambridge?? I don't perosonally care for the Cambridge line.....way too analytical for my tastes. Hard to imagine this being better.

    I bet the $599 Chinese Bada would sound better. LessIsNevermore....hurry and buy one so we can find out against Dave's Bada at the next RAS :D:D
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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited May 2009
    Hey Nik, how do you like your RCD-855? Mine lasted for 18 years before kicking the bucket. I replaced it with the 1072.
    nikolas812 wrote: »
    I'll be getting one as soon as I can just to see what its all about...... And a UMC-1 if it ever gets released.:rolleyes:





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  • WilliamM2
    WilliamM2 Posts: 4,806
    edited May 2009
    Slot load? No thanks, they always seem to develop problems, or worse yet, scratch disc's.
  • nikolas812
    nikolas812 Posts: 2,915
    edited May 2009
    cfrizz wrote: »
    Hey Nik, how do you like your RCD-855? Mine lasted for 18 years before kicking the bucket. I replaced it with the 1072.



    I love it and it sounds fantastic. I would have never dreamed a player this old could sound so good.:eek: But..... I know there is better....


    Its not going anywhere though. Even if I get a new CDP I'll find a place for it. Best $100 I ever spent.:)





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  • olilugo
    olilugo Posts: 405
    edited May 2009
    cfrizz wrote: »
    Hey Nik, how do you like your RCD-855? Mine lasted for 18 years before kicking the bucket. I replaced it with the 1072.

    So is your Rotel RCD-1072 a keeper?
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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited May 2009
    Absolutely! I waited until Rotel came out with one that was equal to the raves that the 855 got. I just had to wait about 18 years!
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