Tubes Rule!!!!

Toolfan66
Toolfan66 Posts: 17,243
edited March 2010 in 2 Channel Audio
Wow the seperation and clarity with this Dodd gear is fantastic. I have been glued to this since yesterday, Listening to the Eagles HC right now, and all the little things you could hear before in the back are more pronounced and upfront.The cymbals are so clean almost like there in the room.

Well thats all, TUBES DO RULE!!! and I am having a having a good time at church this Sunday morning. LOL;)
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  • dkg999
    dkg999 Posts: 5,647
    edited March 2010
    Welcome to Brother Doug's Temple of Audio Salvation. For the mere price of $2500 (cash or credit cards only please!) we can save your audio soul (and fund our next upgrade :D)
    DKG999
    HT System: LSi9, LSiCx2, LSiFX, LSi7, SVS 20-39 PC+, B&K 507.s2 AVR, B&K Ref 125.2, Tripplite LCR-2400, Cambridge 650BD, Signal Cable PC/SC, BJC IC, Samsung 55" LED

    Music System: Magnepan 1.6QR, SVS SB12+, ARC pre, Parasound HCA1500 vertically bi-amped, Jolida CDP, Pro-Ject RM5.1SE TT, Pro-Ject TubeBox SE phono pre, SBT, PS Audio DLIII DAC
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,033
    edited March 2010
    Glad to hear that you have joined the club. Enjoy the music!
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • curved
    curved Posts: 664
    edited March 2010
    Very very jealous!!! Someday.....
    Living Room:....................[HTML] [/HTML] Zone 2 (Workout Room):
    AVR - Yamaha RX-V757......JBL 4312 Pro Monitors
    Pre - Nak CA-5
    AMP - Adcom 555 (Main)
    Main - Polk RTI8**/RTiA5
    AMP - Adcom 545II (Center)
    Center - Polk CSiA4**
    Sub - Snell Basis 300:p......Zone 3 (Outside)
    CD - Yamaha CDC-555.......Def Tech AW5500
    TV - Pani TH-42PZ80U
    BR - LG BD390
    Monster HTS1600 Power Center
    Dedicated Circuit - (2) 20amp, (1) 15amp
    Ben's IC, Canare 4S11
    **Dayton and Sonicap Caps with Mills Resistors**
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  • leroyjr1
    leroyjr1 Posts: 8,785
    edited March 2010
    Congrats!!!!!

    Did you try the dodd on the 1.2's?
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  • comfortablycurt
    comfortablycurt Posts: 6,745
    edited March 2010
    Awesome!! I thoroughly enjoyed the Dodd ELP that I had here for a short time. I bet it sounds fantastic mated with that Dodd amp!!

    What speakers are you running them with?
    The nirvana inducer-
    APC H10 Power Conditioner
    Marantz UD5005 universal player
    Parasound Halo P5 preamp
    Parasound HCA-1200II power amp
    PolkAudio LSi9's/PolkAudio SDA 2A's/PolkAudio Monitor 7A's
    Audioquest Speaker Cables and IC's
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited March 2010
    I love the sound of a tubed pre with a sand amp. Good stuff Larry!
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,243
    edited March 2010
    I am only using the Dodd elp right now with the GFA-5802 and the SDA's, I want to be sure the Dodd amp is common ground. But the Dodd elp sounds fantastic with the Adcom.

    Yesterday I was enjoying the tubes with my RTiA9's but after bringing the Dodd upstairs with the SDA's well let's just say that will be the last time they get the 2 channel treat. Now I really know why they are for HT and not 2 channel music listening.
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  • polkfarmboy
    polkfarmboy Posts: 5,703
    edited March 2010
    I thought this thread said TOOLS RULE ??

    While I'm here I keep seeing ANTIQUE SOUND LAB WAVE 8 MONO BLOCK TUBE AMP'S going for $275 on ebay and wonder how well the could drive rti8's
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  • polkfarmboy
    polkfarmboy Posts: 5,703
    edited March 2010
    What knd of anthem?
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited March 2010
    polkfarmboy wrote: »
    I thought this thread said TOOLS RULE ??

    While I'm here I keep seeing ANTIQUE SOUND LAB WAVE 8 MONO BLOCK TUBE AMP'S going for $275 on ebay and wonder how well the could drive rti8's

    Not too well. At only 8/wpc and the 8's being larger. In a small room at decent listening level they would be ok.

    These are what you need for RTi 8's

    http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?ampstube&1274352750&/Antique-Sound-Labs-AV-25DT-mon

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited March 2010
    Lasareath wrote: »
    Pre 2L SE Black, The caps have been modified with Mundorfs.

    Drew is bringing over (2) Mazda's & (2) Mullards. He has the Mazda's up front and the Mullards in the back.

    He says it sounds amazing with those tubes, I can't wait!

    Hey Sal, do what I did with the 750, run the tube pre thru the HT bypass, that way once you set the levels of both pre's you can sit back with the Adcom remote and compare the two by switching the HT bypass button.

    Enjoy

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,243
    edited March 2010
    heiney9 wrote: »
    Hey Sal, do what I did with the 750, run the tube pre thru the HT bypass, that way once you set the levels of both pre's you can sit back with the Adcom remote and compare the two by switching the HT bypass button.

    Enjoy

    H9


    I did not think of that yesterday,,:( I will try that afterwork..

    Thanks!!!
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  • Dawgfish
    Dawgfish Posts: 2,554
    edited March 2010
    Tubes do rule! Enjoy the Dodd. That's one seriously good, kick butt pre and amp.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited March 2010
    TOOLFORLIFEFAN wrote: »
    I did not think of that yesterday,,:( I will try that afterwork..

    Thanks!!!

    It works great and I did this for about 3 months when I was A/B'ing the Dared and the Dared surprisingly gives up very little compared to the Adcom. Plus I still have it hooked up that way so if I want to watch a movie or just listen to background music I don't have to turn the tube pre-amp on, but if I want to listen to tubes it's just a switch away.

    So I can listen to passive, active or tubes depending on my mood and no need for hooking and unhooking. It really works out quite well as far as flexibility.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • Dawgfish
    Dawgfish Posts: 2,554
    edited March 2010
    Lasareath wrote: »
    Pre 2L SE Black, The caps have been modified with Mundorfs.

    Drew is bringing over (2) Mazda's & (2) Mullards. He has the Mazda's up front and the Mullards in the back.

    He says it sounds amazing with those tubes, I can't wait!

    That's an interesting setup. I may have to try that on my Anthem Pre 1L. I have modified caps on mine also (can't remember whether they were Sonicaps or Mundorfs). I am running a matched quad of JAN Phillips NOS 6922s on mine and it sounds great. I wonder if Drew has ever compared the mixed Mazda/Mullard setup to the Phillips and how they compare?
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  • NJPOLKER
    NJPOLKER Posts: 3,474
    edited March 2010
    Dawgfish wrote: »
    That's an interesting setup. I may have to try that on my Anthem Pre 1L. I have modified caps on mine also (can't remember whether they were Sonicaps or Mundorfs). I am running a matched quad of JAN Phillips NOS 6922s on mine and it sounds great. I wonder if Drew has ever compared the mixed Mazda/Mullard setup to the Phillips and how they compare?

    I had a quad of Phillips 6922's in the Anthem and they were OK and similar to the Amperex 6922 Holland manufactured tubes I also have. They are all fairly affordable tubes and far better than the Russian tubes. The Mazda and Mullard tubes bring things to a new level in every way, shape and form.
    I have far too much going on to try a pair of Phillips/Amperex in the mix with a pair Mullard/Mazda tubes. I most likely will never try it anyway so I am sending them off to Sal to try and then when he is done we'll see what happens.

    TUBES RULE NO DOUBT ABOUT IT
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  • Dawgfish
    Dawgfish Posts: 2,554
    edited March 2010
    Awesome. Thanks for the reply. It sounds like I'm definitely going to have to try the Mullard/Mazda tubes sometime. It'll be interesting if Sal experiments with anything else and here what he finds. Ahh the fun of tube rolling. If only the funds for permitted, I would have about a dozen quads of 6922s all waiting for their turn. Thanks again for the reply.

    Steve
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  • meremortal
    meremortal Posts: 12
    edited March 2010
    Dodd's pretty good gear. The good thing about tubes is the flexibility of options. Plenty of different tube brands to 'roll', tube pre-amp with solid state power amp, or an all tube setup. You can really have a lot of fun experimenting with various combos out there to get the most out of your money. :)
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  • NJPOLKER
    NJPOLKER Posts: 3,474
    edited March 2010
    Since I had the cash I decided to go with four high performance tubes instead of two hi-performance and two low to mid performing tubes. In the Anthem the front two tubes influence the sound more than the rears. I was told by Doro why but I don't remember the details. Maybe one of the guys will chime in.
    By going with the Mazda and Mullard tubes I can switch them around to tweak the sound if I get board or just want to change things up a little.
    I relied on Brent Jessee at http://www.audiotubes.com/ to help me with my decisions.
    If I were a tube expert maybe I could have saved some money I guess but feel real comfortable taking the Brent Jessee route.
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  • zingo
    zingo Posts: 11,258
    edited March 2010
    I just added an EL34 integrated to my collection and I've definitely been enjoying it. It's just starting to break in, and its warming up my room quiet nicely!

    EL34_S1_s.jpg
    Jake
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited March 2010
    zingo wrote: »
    I just added an EL34 integrated to my collection and I've definitely been enjoying it. It's just starting to break in, and its warming up my room quiet nicely!

    EL34_S1_s.jpg

    I can't see your picture. I copied and and pasted the link into my browser and got a bunch of oriental letters.
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  • zingo
    zingo Posts: 11,258
    edited March 2010
    hearingimpared wrote: »
    I can't see your picture. I copied and and pasted the link into my browser and got a bunch of oriental letters.

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    35watts x 2 in Class AB Push and Pull Output Tube

    EL34 x 4 (Shuguang), 12AT7 x 1, 6N6 x 2

    Signal/Noise Ratio: 90db

    Frequency: 0db 25HZ--50KHZ, -3bd 18HZ--70KHZ
    Audio Input

    Distortion: 1% @ 35W

    Input Sensitivity: 1v

    Power Consumption: Max 240w
    Jake
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  • lightman1
    lightman1 Posts: 10,788
    edited March 2010
    And I got the T-shirt to prove it! Run Larry!!!!!:p
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