Srs2/2.3TL

Cramer1

Hello,

I am looking at a pair of SDA's. The person selling them just tells me that they are 2.3's. I asked him if the interconnect cable is blade/blade or pin/blade and he told me they are pin/blade.

Does this confirm that they are the 2.3's or even the 2.3 tl's? If they are the 2.3's how do you tell if they are the 2.3 tl's?

I have also seen several different pictures of the 2.3's. The picture of the pair I am talking about have 2 dimensional drivers on the one side and on the side with the four drivers, the upper and lower drivers look different, almost like a passive radiator, but they are the same size as the other drivers. I have seen a couple of pairs with this setup, but most have all 6 drivers that look alike. Is this a newer/older version? Are those actual drivers or is there only the four working drivers?

Thanks in advance to who can answer these questions.

Ricardo

From your description they are 2.3's, with the top and bottom "donuts".

leroyjr1

The 2.3 have 2 donut drivers, the tl's don't.

Cramer1

Ricardo or Leroyjr1,

Are these "donut" drivers actual working drivers and what is the difference between the regular drivers and the donut type? If I wanted to upgrade these to TL specs, I assume the need the RDO tweeters, the crossovers upgraded, and possibly these two drivers replaced? If the drivers are replaced are the crossovers capable of working with the regular type of drivers? If they are not replaced, I assume the crossovers and the tweeters could still be upgraded, correct?

I know, so many questions, I am still learning and I am not familiar with the 2.3's then. The others I have been looking at must all have been the TL's

Thanks again

hearingimpared

If you still are able to purchase the 2.3TLs I would go that route as upgrading the crossovers in the 2.3s are quite labor intensive and you need to completely redo the crossovers. With the TLs all you would need to do would be to replace the SL3000 tweeters with RD0198s and upgrade your caps and resistors on your crossovers to Sonic Caps and Mills resistors if you wish.

There are other tweaks you can perform, i.e. place Dynamat Extreme on the MW baskets, Mortite the drivers, and spike the cabinets.

heiney9

Early 2.3's had the "donut" divers to increase bass response. Yes, they are functioning drivers. Later 2.3's had std. drivers.

If you want 2.3TL's get them...............trying to upgrade non TL'd speakers are a PITA w/the exception of the later 2B/CRS+ models which were engineered from the factory but never made it into production.

H9

ben62670

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Cramer1

Sorry, but it seems I keep having more questions, the more I read. If I could find the 2.3TL's that would be great, but they are hard to come by. What other upgrades need to be done on the 2.3's vs. the 2.3TL's. Both would need XO's upgraded, correct?? Both new caps and resistors. The Tl's also came with the SL tweeters and I would want to upgrade the tweeters on the Tl's no different than the 2.3's. So, I am missing something. Is there other things on the XO's that need to be upgraded on the 2.3's that is not needed on the 2.3TL's? If I got the 2.3's and upgraded the caps, resistors, and put in new RDO tweeters, would I not be satisfied? Would there still be a lot of difference between them and the TL version?

heiney9

If you really want SDA's and these 2.3's are local and in good cond. GET THEM, don;t wait for 2.3TL's. Sure they are a little nicer but who knows if you'll ever get a chance to grab a pair. Frankly waiting 6 mos, a year, or more for TL's to come along isn;t worth it as the TL's really aren;t that much better.

All SDA's are transformed by new RD0 tweets and replacing the old caps and resistors with nice fresh units as well as bypassing the poly switches if it suits your listening habits allow.

H9

heiney9

IMO, a nicely modded pair of 2.3's with RD0's will be nicer than a stock pair of 2.3 TL's.

Cramer1

Thanks hieney9,

You have been a great help!! One more question, is it recommended or not to replace the donut drivers with the regular drivers?

These pair are not real local, but he said he would probably willing to meet. So depending on what could be worked out, I would have to decide from there. He also said they are in excellent shape physically and in working shape, just all original drivers, etc.

stubby

Hey Cory, looks like you're starting an SRS collection!

As long as the donut drivers are functional, I wouldn't worry about replacing them.

stubby

bsoko2

Cramer1 - I started out with the 2.3's and the "donut drivers". Loved them and did the tweet update with the RDO194. Later came across a set of 2.3TL's and bought them and updated the tweets with RDO198. Sold off the 2.3's with the donuts and never looked back, so go ahead and get them and enjoy. Later, you will find the 2.3TL's or yhoui just might like what you have with the donut drivers.

Bill

george daniel

What they said,, get a pair of 2.3's,,upgrade the crossovers with new caps and resistors,,replace the tweets along the way and you will have an extremely good pair of speakers that will be hard to beat for the kind of money that you have in them.

zarrdoss

I have 2.3's and 2.3tl and love the way both pairs sound, both have unique characteristics and pretty much like them equally. So go ahead and get them, you will not regret it.

F1nut

Upgrading 2.3 to 2.3TL's would require so many changes that you'd end up spending much more than a pair of 2.3TL's would cost you. So basically, forget about it.

The donut drivers were added because the 2.3's had too much mid-range, they were not added to increase the bass. However, the result of adding the donuts limits the frequency response of those two drivers so all they reproduce are bass frequencies, but that doesn't mean the speaker produces more bass than the 2.3TL, it doesn't. Also, you cannot replace the donut drivers with regular drivers.

Contrary to another, the two models have a very different sound and the TL's are that much better.

If I got the 2.3's and upgraded the caps, resistors, and put in new RDO tweeters, would I not be satisfied?

Yeah, you probably would.

hangon

Cramer1
I am still on the fence, I may have my 2.3t's again
for sale for the "last time".
Here is the deal:
When my local HI-FI dealer gets the new Magnepan MG1.7's
and/or the MG3.6 set up in a theater configuration, I will be bringing
my CineNova Grande Amplifier to try them out.
If I love them I will be parting with my 2.3tl's.
I am located in Salt Lake City.

cincycat13

So does this mean there are some 3.1s coming back to the market? I just found myself out of work so travel / pick up is more of an option now. I would be interested.

Cramer1

Hangon,

Let me know what is happening either way. It would work better for me if it could possibly be a little later as I would have more vacation for travel. That being said, I am still very interested.

Thanks

Cramer1

Sorry cincycat13,

I just spoke with Paul today as he was giving me some advise on the 2.3's. I did reassure hime that I did not change my mind on the 3.1's. We have a delivery date scheduled.

hangon

Cramer1 wrote: »

Hangon,

Let me know what is happening either way. It would work better for me if it could possibly be a little later as I would have more vacation for travel. That being said, I am still very interested.

Thanks

Cramer,
My time line is 30+ day's for decision.
Check your in-box I sent you some sample photos.

Cramer1

Hangon,

I was not expecting a quick decision from you. I would have more vacation to travel later, so if later works for you, it would work for me better also. This does not mean I would not want to have them in my rec. room now. Keep in touch!

Vette C6.r

IMO 2.3's are vary rare and if you have your eyes on a set then grab them. I've looked for several years to find some.

Unless the buyer is asking a crazy price you can pretty much get your money back and get the TL's.