HBO's The Pacific with spoilers

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  • polkatese
    polkatese Posts: 6,767
    edited April 2010
    The built up is getting better but nowhere as engaging as BoB. Having said that, I still enjoy it very much.

    btw, I didn't recognize Agent Olivia Dunham until the boom boom part...naughty, naughty. Too bad nothing that I would need to slo-mo the DVR. She cleaned up very nicely, definitely changed my perspective on the next Fringe episode.
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited April 2010
    polkatese wrote: »
    The built up is getting better but nowhere as engaging as BoB. Having said that, I still enjoy it very much.

    btw, I didn't recognize Agent Olivia Dunham until the boom boom part...naughty, naughty. Too bad nothing that I would need to slo-mo the DVR. She cleaned up very nicely, definitely changed my perspective on the next Fringe episode.

    You dirt guy you!:eek::D
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  • polkatese
    polkatese Posts: 6,767
    edited April 2010
    he he.
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  • DMara
    DMara Posts: 1,434
    edited April 2010
    Yesterday's Episode 7 was very emotional and gruesome. Joe Mazzelo is quite a fine actor; he almost made me cry at the teary scene of him viewing his dead captain being carried pass the platoon.
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  • kuntasensei
    kuntasensei Posts: 3,263
    edited April 2010
    DMara wrote: »
    Yesterday's Episode 7 was very emotional and gruesome. Joe Mazzelo is quite a fine actor; he almost made me cry at the teary scene of him viewing his dead captain being carried pass the platoon.

    Yeah, normally I don't expect much from former child actors... but he has been excellent in this. Still, I can't help myself - Every time I see him, I play that scene of him climbing the electric fence in Jurassic Park over and over again in my head. ZAP! :D
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited April 2010
    DMara wrote: »
    Yesterday's Episode 7 was very emotional and gruesome. Joe Mazzelo is quite a fine actor; he almost made me cry at the teary scene of him viewing his dead captain being carried pass the platoon.

    Right with ya there Bro!
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  • fatchowmein
    fatchowmein Posts: 2,637
    edited May 2010
    Episode 8 was predictable. Spend all that time on one guy. See him meet girl, flirt with girl, marry girl, re-enlist, and die. I did enjoy it but it broke up the tempo of the series. Things were going so well.
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  • polkatese
    polkatese Posts: 6,767
    edited May 2010
    two more episodes to go.

    Episode 8 was ok.
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  • Fongolio
    Fongolio Posts: 3,516
    edited May 2010
    As Tom Hanks has stated, the focus of this series has been to show the effect this part of the war had on the characters they are following. To this end, I think the whole series has been a total success. I very much enjoyed episode 8. It shows the effect on the people in the character's lives.

    This series is NOT Band of Brothers. I stopped expecting anything similar in episode two. This series has been a lot more personal and if I'd never seen BoB I would think this the best series done on the war ever. It's a different approach. Expect different angles. I'm thoroughly enjoying it.
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    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited May 2010
    Fongolio wrote: »
    As Tom Hanks has stated, the focus of this series has been to show the effect this part of the war had on the characters they are following. To this end, I think the whole series has been a total success. I very much enjoyed episode 8. It shows the effect on the people in the character's lives.

    This series is NOT Band of Brothers. I stopped expecting anything similar in episode two. This series has been a lot more personal and if I'd never seen BoB I would think this the best series done on the war ever. It's a different approach. Expect different angles. I'm thoroughly enjoying it.

    I agree Kelvin but I do think they spent more time than necessary in this episode on the back story.
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  • Pycroft
    Pycroft Posts: 1,960
    edited May 2010
    Thinking back on this series, I think this is more challening to pull off than BoB. In BoB, you had a unit of men together throughout. You learned about them, not through a complex back story, but throughout the action. In The Pacific, they focus on three entirely different men and their individual stories of the war. I feel it's clunkier than BoB, but for that reason. I'm not even sure there is a different way you could have done it to incorporate all the stories, without the bounce effect of 'Who are we talking about today?'. I agree, that if there were no 'BoB' this would be looked on with higher regard, and I still think that it is a fine production that is well worth watching.
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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited May 2010
    i'm still watching The Pacific. Some episodes are better than others.. but i get frustrated when they keep going back to John Basilone.

    I am throughly enjoying the story of Pfc Eugene Sledge (played by actor Joe Mezzelo) as someone earlier had mentioned. Good actor.

    I hope the final episodes live up to parts 7 and 8.

    I think I will go back and rewatch all the episodes soon before the final episode to get caught up again on the series.

    Pycroft, you are spot on about the series.
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  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited May 2010
    They won't be going back to him anymore Al.
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  • kuntasensei
    kuntasensei Posts: 3,263
    edited May 2010
    Mazello was fantastic in tonight's episode. Who knew the little kid from Jurassic Park would turn into such a good actor? Again, tonight's episode was very nice with DPL-IIz Height engaged, and it was the first episode I've watched on my new Epson 8500UB (and me likey!). Looking forward to the finale, but I'm kinda' sorry to see it go.
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  • Fongolio
    Fongolio Posts: 3,516
    edited May 2010
    Great episode.
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  • Pycroft
    Pycroft Posts: 1,960
    edited May 2010
    I've really connected to Sledge....in a way that surpasses perhaps the connection I had with BoB. It's a shame that I didn't get anywhere near that with the other two characters! Last night's episode was the best of the series so far in my opinion. I have been looking forward to seeing how they would handle 'The Bomb' the entire time, but i suspect it will be in passing. I can't wait for next week!

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  • Fongolio
    Fongolio Posts: 3,516
    edited May 2010
    Pycroft wrote: »
    I have been looking forward to seeing how they would handle 'The Bomb' the entire time, but i suspect it will be in passing.

    James

    It was mentioned in last nights episode and just as you suspected..in passing.
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,461
    edited May 2010
    Fongolio wrote: »
    This series is NOT Band of Brothers. I stopped expecting anything similar in episode two. This series has been a lot more personal and if I'd never seen BoB I would think this the best series done on the war ever. It's a different approach. Expect different angles. I'm thoroughly enjoying it.

    The Pacific was also a very different war than the war in Europe. Once the allies came ashore on D-day, the hardest part of defeating **** Germany was done. With the ability to resupply, R&R and manuever for position assured, The allies in Europe had a relatively simple task ahead of them. While combat is never easy and the European theater was a hellish place to be, there is no doubt in my mind that the Marines had a far more difficult task during the island-hopping campaign of the Pacific.

    Every place they went, they were met by an enemy that valued death over life and sworn to kill anything that moved. Resupply could only come from the sea, and losing meant death or having to learn how to swim. Every island a marine landed on became a "meat-grinder" with even the blackest of sand painted red with blood. Decades after the war ended, a few Japanese soldiers were still defending them to the death.

    This series is as different from BoB as the strategies and courage needed to fight them, and it is doing an exemplary job of doing just that.
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited May 2010
    I've recorded it on the DVR and am getting ready to watch it.
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  • polkatese
    polkatese Posts: 6,767
    edited May 2010
    One of the best episode last night. At one point, I thought Eugene was about to flip into Gomer Pyle of FMJ. But glad it wasn't the case.
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  • DMara
    DMara Posts: 1,434
    edited May 2010
    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    The Pacific was also a very different war than the war in Europe. Once the allies came ashore on D-day, the hardest part of defeating **** Germany was done.

    I remembered one episode of BoB mentioned that our men sometimes felt like the Germans were their brothers or neighbors, something of that effect. The day after parachuting to Normandy, they actually met a German prisoner who came back from the States to fight for his parents' country; they even shared some memories of the neighborhood. Then the Bastogne Christmas Eve scene in which the Germans sang Stille Nacht really brought the soldiers of both sides close together. (That "comraderie" feeling only disappeared completely when they discovered the Jewish death camps). And the words of the surrendering German General to his troops at the end actually echoed the sentiment of our soldiers.
    On the contrary, The Pacific was a real Hell War, with the Japanese as Satan's soldiers! Only at the end of yesterday's Episode 9 that Sledge finally looked at a Japanase soldier as a BOY, and he was doing so thanks to a moment of embracing the dying woman instead of pulling the trigger! That moment really kept his soul from being torn away forever. The 2 Bombs, as brutal as they were, surely saved so many lives on both sides.
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  • Huck344
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    edited May 2010
    Pycroft wrote: »
    I've really connected to Sledge....in a way that surpasses perhaps the connection I had with BoB. It's a shame that I didn't get anywhere near that with the other two characters! Last night's episode was the best of the series so far in my opinion. I have been looking forward to seeing how they would handle 'The Bomb' the entire time, but i suspect it will be in passing. I can't wait for next week!

    James

    I agree that last night's episode was hands down the best of the series.

    But, unlike you, I really cannot connect with Sledge. I've been reading the book along with watching the series. The book just seems to portray him as an underachieving spoiled child of privilege who was in an unspoken competition with his older brother.

    Even during the most compassionate scene of the entire series (the dieing Okinawan woman), I still felt like he looked like a snooty child looking down on her.

    But, I think that is my fault more than the producers of the show. There is just something about the character and the actor himself that rubs me the wrong way:confused:
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