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obieone
obieone Posts: 5,077
edited March 2010 in The Clubhouse
New York FRIGGIN City:mad:


http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=news/investigators&id=7305356

Sorry, I couldn't figure out how to embed it
I refuse to argue with idiots, because people can't tell the DIFFERENCE!
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  • Danny Tse
    Danny Tse Posts: 5,206
    edited March 2010
    There's always a dark side to everything.
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  • obieone
    obieone Posts: 5,077
    edited March 2010
    Innocent people are being arrested to generate revenue, and NO-ONE, besides me is outraged:confused:

    What scripts do I get to join the apathy crowd:(
    I refuse to argue with idiots, because people can't tell the DIFFERENCE!
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  • zarrdoss
    zarrdoss Posts: 2,562
    edited March 2010
    obieone wrote: »
    Innocent people are being arrested to generate revenue, and NO-ONE, besides me is outraged:confused:

    What scripts do I get to join the apathy crowd:(

    crap dude I am so outraged on the state of the nation it makes me sick! everyone needs to learn their basic rights and laws and start challenging this conduct and sue for false arrest and harassment. Its is way past time for everyone to take a stand!
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  • Tony M
    Tony M Posts: 11,141
    edited March 2010
    I agree. But try and find a lawyer in your city that will go against the police. It's almost impossible. I had a friend that couldn't find one even in nearby cities. He had to drop his search and move on. Unbelieveable huh.:mad:
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,952
    edited March 2010
    obieone wrote: »
    Innocent people are being arrested to generate revenue, and NO-ONE, besides me is outraged:confused:

    What scripts do I get to join the apathy crowd:(

    Dude,alot of people,in alot of states,have been pissed off about this practice which btw,is not native to NYC. Only the press is unwilling to report and I suspect that only now,and only in NY,they are reporting this given the current political climate in that state and who they want out of office.
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  • obieone
    obieone Posts: 5,077
    edited March 2010
    There's several small, one-horse towns down here, that are 'speed trap' towns, that'll do stuff similar to this, but USUALLY, it's somewhat legitimate.

    The story implies that these quotas are coming from 1 Police Plaza, but are they really? I can't imagine a politician/ management risking a story like this getting out. I think it's the union, to avoid pink slips. Which I understand, but DEFINITELY don't agree with.
    I'm an HVAC tech. and I would NEVER sell a bogus repair for the sake of job security. I guess I'm part of a dwindling few?

    "The hottest places in hell are reserved for those who times of great moral crises, maintian their neutrality"- Dante
    I refuse to argue with idiots, because people can't tell the DIFFERENCE!
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  • HB27
    HB27 Posts: 1,518
    edited March 2010
    "A man who has nothing which he cares more about than he does about his personal safety is a miserable creature who has no chance at being free, unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited March 2010
    Oye Vey, Joe Stalin reincarnated. This story makes the saying, "The measure of a man's true character is what he would do in any situation where he knows he wouldn't be caught," a moot point.
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  • zarrdoss
    zarrdoss Posts: 2,562
    edited March 2010
    I grew up in a little corrupt town in NM, the police dept was corrupt as hell, I used to get pulled over on a weekly basis and they would find something, so finally when I could afford a vid camera I got one and under the advise from the best attorney in NM I started taping them every time I got pulled over, they sure as hell did not like that one tried to reach in and grab it. I went back and showed the tape to my attorney and he sent a copy over to the chief and I never got bothered again. just about every time I leave the house I have my vid camera with me because no ones word, besides the police, seems to be creditable these days.
    So there are things we can be doing. Anyone ever hear of prepaid legal? you sign on for about 150 and pay like 30 a month and its like always having an attorney on retainer, if you get into any legal ramifications they have to represent you unless someone finds a conflict of interest or something like that. But its great to say I'll let my attorney deal with you and mean it.
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  • kevhed72
    kevhed72 Posts: 5,046
    edited March 2010
    There are always 2 sides to a story. And, on the flip-side, what would you think about the job performance of a police officer in NYC who went for months without making any arrests. Just another way to look at it and my .02.
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,952
    edited March 2010
    kevhed72 wrote: »
    There are always 2 sides to a story. And, on the flip-side, what would you think about the job performance of a police officer in NYC who went for months without making any arrests. Just another way to look at it and my .02.

    Good point...but does that justify setting up a quota system ? My problem is that the police department is used as a revenue generating entity instead of a criminal catching body. After all,once you catch them,you have to prosecute them,and that costs money, which most states don't have.

    Here in Chicago,Cook county to be exact,they recently announced plans to close 2 prisons. That tells me we are either not catching as many,or letting them out earlier to avoid the cost. Strange comming from a county with some of the highest crime stats in the nation. :(
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  • BottomFeeder
    BottomFeeder Posts: 1,684
    edited March 2010
    Bleh! I've heard - for most of my life - that the police dept. had a quota system. But now it seems that there's proof.

    Dang!
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  • maximillian
    maximillian Posts: 2,144
    edited March 2010
    Just to make you more mad...

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    Best advice in relation to the police:

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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited March 2010
    I have no problems with the police having weapons that equalize or supasses that of the bads guys especially when having to work against drug gangs, homegrown terrorists and the like.

    The second video was awesome and very eye opening.
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  • fossy
    fossy Posts: 1,378
    edited March 2010
    police state
    police state Kudos to the cop that spoke up about it.....he'll probably loose his job over it
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