MIT cable lineage/depth chart

dc55110
dc55110 Posts: 128
edited October 2012 in Electronics
Unlike most electronics companies, who usually keep an archive of past models, MIT has very limited information on "Legacy" products. So if anyone has a good handle on what lines predate what other lines, which lines were superior to other lines, I'm hoping this could be the place to share that information. I for one can't drop the big bucks on the newest stuff and would like to know where some of their older lines fit in with their current lineup and previous lineups.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,569
    edited March 2010
    It would be easier to answer a question about a specific version than to try and list all the various versions MIT has made.
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  • dc55110
    dc55110 Posts: 128
    edited March 2010
    Personally, I'd like to know were the MI-330(plus, shotgun, S1, etc) & MH-750(same suffixes) fit into the interconnect and speaker cable lines respectively. Similar with the prefixes on the terminator line: CVT, AVT, etc...
    (((STEREO)))
    Sony DVP-N9000es
    Squeezebox Duet
    Theta ProBasic IIIA
    Audio Research SP14
    White Audio Labs B1
    Transparent SoundWave Super
    Paradigm Studio Monitor
    B&W 802 s3


    HT
    Sony Bravia KDL-40Z4100
    Sony BDP-S350
    Yamaha HTR-5790
    NHT SB3 (Fronts)
    NHT SC2 (center)
    NHT SB2 (surround)
    Velodyne FSR12
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,569
    edited March 2010
    The MI-330 series are interconnect cables. The MH-750 series are speaker cables. The two series were produced at the same time and were a matching series. Both are the previous series to the current Shotgun series.

    The current Shotgun series (S1, S2, S3) are excellent cables that are above the entry level AVT's and below the Magmum and TOTL, Oracle.

    The Terminator series (T2, T3, T4, T5, T6) are much older cables and are the previous series to the current AVT series. Although entry level, the T2 version was very popular.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."


    President of Club Polk

  • dc55110
    dc55110 Posts: 128
    edited March 2010
    F1nut wrote: »
    The MI-330 series are interconnect cables. The MH-750 series are speaker cables. The two series were produced at the same time and were a matching series. Both are the previous series to the current Shotgun series.

    The current Shotgun series (S1, S2, S3) are excellent cables that are above the entry level AVT's and below the Magmum and TOTL, Oracle.

    The Terminator series (T2, T3, T4, T5, T6) are much older cables and are the previous series to the current AVT series. Although entry level, the T2 version was very popular.

    In the various cables I mentioned, I'm curious at to what the difference would be between say the "MI-330 Shotgun S1" and say the "MI-330 CVT sII." Or The "MH-750 CVT terminator" and the "MH750 Shotgun" or "MH-750 Plus S3" ?

    Not trying to be difficult just trying to compare apples to apples. Or at least oranges to some other citrus fruit.
    (((STEREO)))
    Sony DVP-N9000es
    Squeezebox Duet
    Theta ProBasic IIIA
    Audio Research SP14
    White Audio Labs B1
    Transparent SoundWave Super
    Paradigm Studio Monitor
    B&W 802 s3


    HT
    Sony Bravia KDL-40Z4100
    Sony BDP-S350
    Yamaha HTR-5790
    NHT SB3 (Fronts)
    NHT SC2 (center)
    NHT SB2 (surround)
    Velodyne FSR12
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,166
    edited March 2010
    If you shoot Gavin Fish or Joe Abrams an e-mail they are more than happy to outline the difference's.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,569
    edited March 2010
    dc55110 wrote: »
    In the various cables I mentioned, I'm curious at to what the difference would be between say the "MI-330 Shotgun S1" and say the "MI-330 CVT sII." Or The "MH-750 CVT terminator" and the "MH750 Shotgun" or "MH-750 Plus S3" ?

    Not trying to be difficult just trying to compare apples to apples. Or at least oranges to some other citrus fruit.

    Interconnects;
    There is no "MI-330 Shotgun S1" and I don't believe "MI-330 CVT sII" is a valid model either.

    Speaker Cables;
    The "MH-750 CVT terminator" is a very old model, forget about it. The "MH750 Shotgun" or "MH-750 Plus S3" are the previous versions of the current Shotgun S1, S2, S3 series with the S3 being the closest to the older "MH750 Shotgun" or "MH-750 Plus S3."
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."


    President of Club Polk

  • POLKHT
    POLKHT Posts: 138
    edited July 2010
    F1nut wrote: »
    Interconnects;
    There is no "MI-330 Shotgun S1" and I don't believe "MI-330 CVT sII" is a valid model either.

    Speaker Cables;
    The "MH-750 CVT terminator" is a very old model, forget about it. The "MH750 Shotgun" or "MH-750 Plus S3" are the previous versions of the current Shotgun S1, S2, S3 series with the S3 being the closest to the older "MH750 Shotgun" or "MH-750 Plus S3."

    Old thread, but....

    So the MH-750 CVT cables aren't any good? How old are they?
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,166
    edited July 2010
    POLKHT wrote: »
    Old thread, but....

    So the MH-750 CVT cables aren't any good? How old are they?

    Who said that? Probably about 8-10 years if I had to guess.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • POLKHT
    POLKHT Posts: 138
    edited July 2010
    heiney9 wrote: »
    Who said that? Probably about 8-10 years if I had to guess.

    F1nut. His post before mine. "The "MH-750 CVT terminator" is a very old model, forget about it." When he said forget about it, I thought he may have meant too old and not any good.

    My buddy just picked up a pair and he wanted to know if I wanted to buy them. I've never heard of the CVT line. The cables are thick, off white in color, but the network boxes are small compared to the other boxes I've seen on MIT. Also I don't see Terminator anywhere on the cables. Are these different from the Terminators?
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,166
    edited July 2010
    I guess my response was in regard to how much they are worth. For the right price they might be alright. Newer MIT's oare obviously better but than that should be reflected in the price.

    I wouldn't pay more than $100 or so for the MH-750 CVT. Do realize today's equivalent which would be the CVT Terminator II retail for something like $999/8' pr.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • POLKHT
    POLKHT Posts: 138
    edited July 2010
    I don't have the money for $999 speaker cables. So I might buy these from him. One of the drawbacks for me is that they are not bi-wire.
  • cstmar01
    cstmar01 Posts: 4,424
    edited July 2010
    POLKHT wrote: »
    I don't have the money for $999 speaker cables. So I might buy these from him. One of the drawbacks for me is that they are not bi-wire.

    just get a set of decent jumpers instead of bi-wiring......
  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited July 2010
    cstmar01 wrote: »
    just get a set of decent jumpers instead of bi-wiring......

    No doubt. Don't pass up a good deal because of that crap. I've run both and use Oracle jumpers if they're not bi-wire....no sonic difference.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
  • POLKHT
    POLKHT Posts: 138
    edited July 2010
    I'll see how much he wants for them. Thank you all for the info.
  • Ric5811
    Ric5811 Posts: 400
    edited July 2010
    F1nut wrote: »
    The MI-330 series are interconnect cables. The MH-750 series are speaker cables. The two series were produced at the same time and were a matching series. Both are the previous series to the current Shotgun series.

    The current Shotgun series (S1, S2, S3) are excellent cables that are above the entry level AVT's and below the Magmum and TOTL, Oracle.

    The Terminator series (T2, T3, T4, T5, T6) are much older cables and are the previous series to the current AVT series. Although entry level, the T2 version was very popular.


    AVT's are entry level? Thought that the EXp's were the entry level....
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  • TooMal4u
    TooMal4u Posts: 11
    edited October 2012
    Hi dc55110 I have a White Audio Labs b1 amp and have no info or specs on it... do you have any specs or ratings or manual or schematics--mode of operation info? I can find very little on the web...

    Thank you very much in advance,

    David.