bugdet amp(s) for power hungry 'digms

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  • Montoya
    Montoya Posts: 506
    edited March 2010
    I went with anthem I'm really impressed with the sound and build quality. I also have a roksan Amp that is good as
    well it is a very detailed amp but the anthem is more well rounded and has a way better bass delivery and overall I think it is more transparent.
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  • pploeser
    pploeser Posts: 88
    edited March 2010
    Of interest, I hooked my macbook up to the 2-channel rig for some listening tonight since the Rotel is on the fritz, and have actually liked it quite well so far. Maybe it's just my imagination, but it's not quite as fatiguing as I felt the CD player was to listen to. It lacks a bit of the detail and dynamic, but seems to have taken some of the edge off of the mids & highs. Is this a sign that maybe I should seek a different brand of CD player? On top of that fact that it's not working at the moment... :(
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  • W WALDECKER
    W WALDECKER Posts: 900
    edited March 2010
    I had Ref 100 V3's with a Rotel RB1080 and they sounded lifeless and compressed and i decided to give Odyssey a try and bought a pair of Khartago Monoblocks and they worked great with the Ref 100 V3's. Klaus will work with you and your budget and i have known him to sell gear for less than the price on his website and he may have some nice amps sitting around that are trade ins for a really good price. good luck....WCW III
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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited March 2010
    don't be a silly boy, of course you should get a new cd player, which one.....well lots of choices, but something made with hi-fi music in mind might be the priority.

    RT1
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  • pploeser
    pploeser Posts: 88
    edited March 2010
    reeltrouble1 wrote: »
    don't be a silly boy, of course you should get a new cd player, which one.....well lots of choices, but something made with hi-fi music in mind might be the priority.

    RT1

    yeah, and I'm starting to wonder if I should look for speakers without a metal dome tweeter... maybe that's a source for some of the brightness I'm not quite liking. what did I get myself into! oh, right... the pursuit of said "hi-fi music" :)

    Gonna have the CDP looked at tomorrow. I may get it fixed and sell it. Or trade it in... for a TT :eek:
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  • pploeser
    pploeser Posts: 88
    edited March 2010
    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    This amp has not been discussed yet, but I feel it represents a great choice. The Sunfire Stereo 300x2.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Sunfire-Home-Theater-Amplifier-2-channel-Carver-300-two_W0QQitemZ150418096798QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item23059e029e

    I'm thinking of bidding on this amp. Do you know roughly what I should expect it to go for? I gather it will have sound characteristics similar to those of the B&K, and with very respectable performance if these are the correct specs.
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  • thall
    thall Posts: 25
    edited March 2010
    I've been running P'digm Monitor 7s for serveral years now with my Carver M-500t.
    Not sure how the Monitors compare with your Studios, but I like my combination.
    Power has never been an issue.
    thall
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  • pploeser
    pploeser Posts: 88
    edited March 2010
    thall wrote: »
    I've been running P'digm Monitor 7s for serveral years now with my Carver M-500t.
    Not sure how the Monitors compare with your Studios, but I like my combination.
    Power has never been an issue.

    Thanks for the info. I'm impressed by the specs on the Sunfire. Still torn between that and the B&K Ref 200.2.

    BTW, is your signature a Genesis reference?
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  • sucks2beme
    sucks2beme Posts: 5,601
    edited March 2010
    I ran a pair of Paradigm studio 60's with both 120 wpc SS and
    50WPC tube. Both seemed to drive them as loud as I wanted to hear them.
    I think any quality amp sould get you there.
    "The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." --Thomas Jefferson
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,420
    edited March 2010
    pploeser wrote: »
    I'm thinking of bidding on this amp. Do you know roughly what I should expect it to go for? I gather it will have sound characteristics similar to those of the B&K, and with very respectable performance if these are the correct specs.

    There are two different amps. The 600/two is a fantastic amp, but I have not seen any come up for sale in quite some time. The 300/two is a solid amp as well, and is more common. If you are able to get the 300 wpc version for 750 to 1000, you will have done well. The 600/two will be easily double that amount unless you are able to find one from someone that has no clue as to their value. I got lucky that way with mine.:)
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD

    “When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson
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  • thall
    thall Posts: 25
    edited March 2010
    pploeser wrote: »
    BTW, is your signature a Genesis reference?

    It is a line from one of my favorite Genesis recordings. Selling England by the Pound.
    thall
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  • Rev. Hayes
    Rev. Hayes Posts: 475
    edited March 2010
    I'm impressed by the specs on the Sunfire. Still torn between that and the B&K Ref 200.2.

    I have not listened to the sunfire but if you like it "warm" the B&K should give that to you. I'm pushing lsi9's right now with the 125.2. I tried swapping out the B&K with an Adcom yesterday because I felt it was maybe too warm for me. That lasted about half way through side one of Sketches of Spain. B&K back in... sounds great.
    Sounds good to me...
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  • pploeser
    pploeser Posts: 88
    edited March 2010
    Well, I didn't bid on the Sunfire. I might regret this, as it went for under $600 shipped, which seems like a really good bargain. I decided to wait to see if a newer one shows up, with the 12v trigger and detachable power cord. Plus, I still haven't decided between it and the B&K. I'll probably make a move on the first one of either model that shows up on ebay or audiogon. I may be waiting a while, which is alright. Gives me time to save up :)

    btw thall, Firth of Fifth is one of my favorite Genesis tracks. Genesis happens to be one of my all time favorite bands.
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,420
    edited March 2010
    pploeser wrote: »
    Well, I didn't bid on the Sunfire. I might regret this, as it went for under $600 shipped, which seems like a really good bargain.

    I regret it more that you know:(...


    If I had known it would go that cheap, it would be on it's way to my home right now.
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD

    “When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson
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  • ViperZ
    ViperZ Posts: 2,046
    edited March 2010
    pploeser wrote: »
    Polk and Paradigm seem to be in a similar class of performance and value, so I figure this is a good place to ask for advice on amplification.

    Ugh... I am sure you got a lot of good advices already, but you can't just say that Polk and Paradigm and in the same class/value. Paradigm Monitors are similar to RTi/Monitor... LSi is similar to Studio Reference.. I don't think Polk has an equivalent for Studio Signature series (top of the line Paradigm).

    On topic, Carver/Sunfire, Adcom, Parasound, Rotel, Emotiva... all within your budget.
    Panasonic PT-AE4000U projector for movies
    Carada 106" Precision Series (Classic Cinema White)
    Denon AVR-X3600H pre/pro
    Outlaw 770 7-channel amplifier
    B&W CDM1-SE fronts
    B&W CDM-CNT center
    B&W CDM1 rears on MoPADs
    JBL SP8CII in-ceiling height speakers
    Samsung DTB-H260F OTA HDTV tuner
    DUAL NHT SubTwo subwoofers
    Oppo BDP-93 Blu-Ray player
    Belkin PF60 Power Center
    Harmony 1100 RF remote with RF extender
    Sony XBR-X950G 55" 4K HDR Smart TV + PS3 in the living room
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  • pploeser
    pploeser Posts: 88
    edited March 2010
    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    I regret it more that you know:(...


    If I had known it would go that cheap, it would be on it's way to my home right now.

    You might be in luck my friend.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Sunfire-Home-Theater-Amplifier-2-channel-Carver-300_W0QQitemZ370344987888QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item563a480cf0#ht_682wt_1165

    It looks like the exact same auction that just ended. Not sure what's up with it, but maybe you've got a second chance. IDK, but maybe I'll be fighting you for it :D
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  • pploeser
    pploeser Posts: 88
    edited March 2010
    For those with B&K experience... what are the benefits of the Reference 200.2 over the Reference 4420? They seem nearly identical according to the specs, yet the 4420 can be had for much less. Are there any other notable differences, other than the 200.2 being newer? The next real step up would seem to be a pair of 200.1's for the higher current rating.

    I also noticed that B&K gives their power ratings from 20Hz ~ 20kHz on the website, but @ 1kHz in the manuals. If the 20Hz ~ 20kHz spec is true, then why limit it to 1kHz in the manuals?
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  • rubin
    rubin Posts: 565
    edited March 2010
    thall wrote: »
    It is a line from one of my favorite Genesis recordings. Selling England by the Pound.

    In your wardrobe
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  • pploeser
    pploeser Posts: 88
    edited March 2010
    Well I'm taking a chance on the B&K Reference 4420, thanks to phipiper. I bought his yesterday morning in the flea market

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1300660#post1300660
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  • pploeser
    pploeser Posts: 88
    edited March 2010
    Hooked up the 4420 last night. Sounds great! I think it will be a good companion to the Studio 100's.
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