newbie set up help.

surfflyfish
surfflyfish Posts: 13
edited February 2010 in Speakers
hello all.
i have questions for you guys.when i bought my RTI A9'a the sound was beyond this world in that showroom,i didn't ask him what amp he had it running with.i bought the speakers and the reciever sony STR-DA4400ES,and i love the sound but i'm not quite satisfied. mostly he had DENONS running everything.i think i need an amp to get the most out of my speakers,what you guys advice me for this set up.NAD,Denon,suggestions.

also,Can someone explain what figure 4 and 5 means in the RTI manual pg 8-9?
thank you guys,and i'm sorry for the silly questions.:cool:
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,296
    edited February 2010
    Hello and welcome to Club Polk. How big was the demo room in relation to how big the rig is currently set up in?

    Also, what are you trying to achieve from figure 4 and 5?
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited February 2010
    figure 4 and 5 deal with bi-wiring and bi-amping. do a search in here and you will find many threads about those topics.
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  • surfflyfish
    surfflyfish Posts: 13
    edited February 2010
    danger boy wrote: »
    figure 4 and 5 deal with bi-wiring and bi-amping. do a search in here and you will find many threads about those topics.

    just want to know the diffrence for optimizing sound.

    the demo room was about the same size as my living room.the only diffrene the demo room was carpeted and my LR is hardwood,no carpet,but i think the size of the room isn't the issue,is sound coming from the speakers.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,296
    edited February 2010
    That's fine. What, in your opinion just doesn't seem to be right with the sound?
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • surfflyfish
    surfflyfish Posts: 13
    edited February 2010
    treitz3 wrote: »
    That's fine. What, in your opinion just doesn't seem to be right with the sound?

    i want more deeper solid bass and finner and cleaner sound.
    to answer your question,the bass is not there sort of in sync.when i play the blu-ray is fine but when it comes to music something is missing.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,296
    edited February 2010
    What is your source of music? I.E. a CDP, DVD player or an I-POD?
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • surfflyfish
    surfflyfish Posts: 13
    edited February 2010
    treitz3 wrote: »
    What is your source of music? I.E. a CDP, DVD player or an I-POD?

    the bluray for now
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,296
    edited February 2010
    If the Blue Ray sounds great and the music sounds bad coming from the same player, then logically the source [output from the BRP] for exclusively music is the issue. Would you happen to have a dedicated CDP laying around that you could try?
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,296
    edited February 2010
    What kind of music are you trying to play through the BRP? Is it ripped or original?
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • surfflyfish
    surfflyfish Posts: 13
    edited February 2010
    Lasareath wrote: »
    Did they have a Sub playing in the show room?
    no,i asked him that,i do recall now he said denon reciever and amp and that was it.
    treitz3 wrote: »
    If the Blue Ray sounds great and the music sounds bad coming from the same player, then logically the source [output from the BRP] for exclusively music is the issue. Would you happen to have a dedicated CDP laying around that you could try?

    i don't have one right now.:mad:
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,296
    edited February 2010
    STRDA4400ES.png

    This is your AVR?

    http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&productId=8198552921665491066&XID=O:str%20da4400es:dg_hav_gglsrch
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • surfflyfish
    surfflyfish Posts: 13
    edited February 2010
    yes sir,thats the one.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,296
    edited February 2010
    treitz3 wrote: »
    What kind of music are you trying to play through the BRP? Is it ripped or original?
    Maybe you missed this one....

    I've got to hit the pillow for tonight and maybe someone else can assist you but we are working on solving your issue. Bye for now...
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • surfflyfish
    surfflyfish Posts: 13
    edited February 2010
    HDMI from BRP to reciever.could be the lack of having an amp.i have to follow up tomorrow guys. thank you for your assistance.have to go to school.
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  • wutadumsn23
    wutadumsn23 Posts: 3,702
    edited February 2010
    An amp will def. help get you better sound, but will benifit you more with music over HT, IMHO. If you don't have a sub, look into getting one first, then add an amp if you are still not satisfied, a good sub will make a huge difference. Look into SVS, Velodyne, Epik, and Polk. The first three can be pretty spendy, so check the used market. The PSW505 is a steal at $250 at Newegg and the DSW line is a good choice as well. Good luck and welcome to Club Polk.

    -Jeff
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    Center- Polk Audio CS2
    Surrounds- Polk Audio TSi 500's :D
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    Retired- Polk Audio Monitor 40's
    T.V.- 60" Sony SXRD KDS-60A2000 LCoS
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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited February 2010
    Sony ES series AVRs are pretty good but the Rti-A9s can soak up A LOT MORE POWER!

    Sal's suggestions above are good. Any reputable power amp manufacturer would do your speakers 'good'--at least 200 watts with more in 4 ohms (maybe 350W) per channel should do.

    Go out and listen, buy USED!! Rotel, Parasound, B&K, NAD, Carver, Adcom, etc.....look as www.audiogon.com for your PRICE range....join the site. And ask questions of the seller and negotiate your price. If he/she is close, ask if you can visit for an audition of the amp, and so on...

    Good Luck

    cnh
    Currently orbiting Bowie's Blackstar.!

    Polk Lsi-7s, Def Tech 8" sub, HK 3490, HK HD 990 (CDP/DAC), AKG Q701s
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  • surfflyfish
    surfflyfish Posts: 13
    edited February 2010
    thank you very much guys. all the post made me realize that i'm looking for prime sound out of a Bluray:o. HT sound is fine but when i put my cd's in theres is the diffrence.i'll check the brands you guys reccommended me.the sub is going to be Polk and the amp i'll look into the brands you guys advice.
    thank you very much guys.
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