Looking for a subwoofer

blockatvalpo
blockatvalpo Posts: 87
edited March 2010 in Subwoofer Hookup & Bass Management
The wife gave me permission to buy a new sub, so I've been looking at a couple different ones. My current set-up is:

Receiver: SR6001
VM30's = front L/R
VM20 = Center
RM6751 x4 = surround sounds

The room that the sub is going into is 19x20, but we have the HT spil into a section of that (probably 11x20). There's no wall dividing it into two rooms, just our sectional.

My budget is $600 and the subs I'm looking at are:

Polk Audio DSW Pro 600: http://signature.crutchfield.com/s_107DSWP600/Polk-Audio-DSW-PRO-600.html?tp=187

Velodyne DLS4000R: http://signature.crutchfield.com/s_2324000RB/Velodyne-DLS-4000R.html?tp=187

Martin Logan: http://www.amazon.com/MartinLogan-DYNBLD-Dynamo-10-Inch-Subwoofer/dp/B000FIJA6W/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

Polk Audio PSW505: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882290130

Would one sub be enough for this room or should I look into getting two? I'm willing to look at other brands. My current Kenwood sub isn't cutting it right now.

Thanks for your help.

jb
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  • Matt34
    Matt34 Posts: 318
    edited February 2010
    Used Epik Sentinal, there are a couple on the market(check audiogon, avs forums). ED A3-300 and SVS PB-12nsd would be my other recomendations. If your not opposed to DIY there are a few more options that would be even better performers.
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  • thuffman03
    thuffman03 Posts: 1,325
    edited February 2010
    You can get a lot more sub for the money if you consider used.

    I have bought two Sunfire True Subs for uder $600 each. One off of Ebay and one on Craigs lists. Just need to watch and wait.
    Sunfire TGP, Sunfire Cinema Grand, Sunfire 300~2 (2), Sunfire True Sub (2),Carver ALS Platinum, Carver AL III, TFM-55, C-19, C-9, TX-8, SDA-490t, SDA-390t
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  • Polkie2009
    Polkie2009 Posts: 3,834
    edited February 2010
    If you can spend a bit more, take a look at the new Epik Empire sub,priced for now at $799 plus shipping. 2 15" drivers,sealed construction with a 600 watt amp.
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  • blockatvalpo
    blockatvalpo Posts: 87
    edited February 2010
    I was looking at the Epik Empire earlier today. That thing is a beast.
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  • PSOVLSK
    PSOVLSK Posts: 5,202
    edited February 2010
    From the "Audio Deals of the Day" thread:
    fatchowmein wrote: »
    Fry's Dallas Morning News ad.

    DSW PRO 400 $249
    DSW PRO 500 $299
    DSW PRO 600 $349

    Dual 12" Ported Subwoofer Enclosure (DB1222) $149

    I happen to be partial to SVS, but these are great prices if you're near a Fry's.

    www.svsound.com
    Things work out best for those who make the best of the way things work out.-John Wooden
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  • Sherardp
    Sherardp Posts: 8,038
    edited February 2010
    blockatvalpo wrote: »
    I was looking at the Epik Empire earlier today. That thing is a beast.

    This will be quite the sub and perform well. If I were buying, I would definitely entertain the Epik or SVS.
    Shoot the jumper.....................BALLIN.............!!!!!

    Home Theater Pics in the Showcase :cool:

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showcase/view.php?userid=73580
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  • wutadumsn23
    wutadumsn23 Posts: 3,702
    edited February 2010
    Polkie2009 wrote: »
    If you can spend a bit more, take a look at the new Epik Empire sub,priced for now at $799 plus shipping. 2 15" drivers,sealed construction with a 600 watt amp.


    Holy crap, just thinking about it makes my brain itch, lol.

    -Jeff
    HT Rig
    Receiver- Onkyo TX-SR806
    Mains- Polk Audio Monitor 70
    Center- Polk Audio CS2
    Surrounds- Polk Audio TSi 500's :D
    Sub- Polk Audio PSW125
    Retired- Polk Audio Monitor 40's
    T.V.- 60" Sony SXRD KDS-60A2000 LCoS
    Blu-Ray- 80 GB PS3


    2 CH rig (in progress)
    Polk Audio Monitor 10A's :cool:

    It's not that I'm insensitive, I just don't care.. :D
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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited February 2010
    A sub with 2 x 15" inch drivers and 600 watts will give you a lot of HT wallop but don't EXPECT 'music' to sound clean on that monster!!

    cnh
    Currently orbiting Bowie's Blackstar.!

    Polk Lsi-7s, Def Tech 8" sub, HK 3490, HK HD 990 (CDP/DAC), AKG Q701s
    [sig. changed on a monthly basis as I rotate in and out of my stash]
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  • wutadumsn23
    wutadumsn23 Posts: 3,702
    edited February 2010
    cnh wrote: »
    but don't EXPECT 'music' to sound clean on that monster!!

    cnh

    Good point.

    -Jeff
    HT Rig
    Receiver- Onkyo TX-SR806
    Mains- Polk Audio Monitor 70
    Center- Polk Audio CS2
    Surrounds- Polk Audio TSi 500's :D
    Sub- Polk Audio PSW125
    Retired- Polk Audio Monitor 40's
    T.V.- 60" Sony SXRD KDS-60A2000 LCoS
    Blu-Ray- 80 GB PS3


    2 CH rig (in progress)
    Polk Audio Monitor 10A's :cool:

    It's not that I'm insensitive, I just don't care.. :D
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  • blockatvalpo
    blockatvalpo Posts: 87
    edited February 2010
    I'll be using it primarily for HT (movies and video games). I wish I lived closer to a Fry's as their prices are great.

    http://www.frys.com/category/Outpost/Audio/Home+Audio+&+Speakers/Audio+Speakers/Individual+Speakers/Powered+Subwoofers/

    I have a son and two dogs, so I think a down firing sub might be my best bet. The DSW 600 at $499 is looking pretty good.

    Where's a good place to buy SVS subs?
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  • blockatvalpo
    blockatvalpo Posts: 87
    edited February 2010
    I'm an idiot and didn't see the SVS link above. For my budget, this one looks good: http://www.svsound.com/products-sub-box-pb12nsd.cfm
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  • blockatvalpo
    blockatvalpo Posts: 87
    edited February 2010
    I think it's down to the PB12-NSD and DSW Pro 600. The PB12 is $660 shipped and the DSW Pro is $518. Question is, is the SVS worth the extra $140? The specs seem to be better, but will I notice that much of a difference. Will one sound better with my current speakers?
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  • domflane
    domflane Posts: 653
    edited February 2010
    Get the SVS, hands down, you won't be dissapointed.
    Home Theater
    RTiA5 - CSiA6 - FXiA6 - PSW650 - Pioneer Elite SC-55 - Carver AV-505 - Sony 46" 120Hz - Monster HP 2400 - Xbox 360 - Playstation 3
    2 Channel
    Polk RTA 15TL - Harman Kardon HK3485 - HK DVD48 - Signal Cable IC's and speaker cables
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  • Ron Temple
    Ron Temple Posts: 3,212
    edited February 2010
    cnh wrote: »
    A sub with 2 x 15" inch drivers and 600 watts will give you a lot of HT wallop but don't EXPECT 'music' to sound clean on that monster!!

    cnh
    Why not, it's sealed, in a fairly small box for that configuration with efficient drivers and a tried and true design. Yes, it's high output, but the reason Epik went with a dual sealed 15 was to eek out even tighter, more resolved bass. It's not a Submersive, but for less than half the cost, it's certainly got to be considered.

    Combo rig:

    Onkyo NR1007 pre-pro, Carver TFM 45(fronts), Carver TFM 35 (surrounds)
    SDA 1C, CS400i, SDA 2B
    PB13Ultra RO
    BW Silvers
    Oppo BDP-83SE
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  • blockatvalpo
    blockatvalpo Posts: 87
    edited February 2010
    The wife took a look at the SVS website and told me she like the cylinder sub better. I like the smaller footprint of the PC12-NSD as well.
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  • danz1906
    danz1906 Posts: 5,144
    edited February 2010
    blockatvalpo wrote: »
    i think it's down to the pb12-nsd and dsw pro 600. The pb12 is $660 shipped and the dsw pro is $518. Question is, is the svs worth the extra $140? The specs seem to be better, but will i notice that much of a difference. Will one sound better with my current speakers?

    yes!!!!!!!!!!
    Linn AV5140 fronts
    Linn AV5120 Center
    Linn AV5140 Rears
    M&K MX-70 Sub for Music
    Odyssey Mono-Blocs
    SVS Ultra-13 Gloss Black:D
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  • blockatvalpo
    blockatvalpo Posts: 87
    edited February 2010
    Well, I just ordered the PC12-NSD from SVS. It should be here next week.
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  • apphd
    apphd Posts: 1,514
    edited February 2010
    I think your wife will really like the PC foot print, and I think you'll be pleased with the performance. Nice win, win for you.:D You get a good sub, and keeping the SO happy may open the door for more toys sooner than other wise.

    Enjoy!
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  • PSOVLSK
    PSOVLSK Posts: 5,202
    edited February 2010
    Good choice. Post your impressions after you get it set up and listen to it for a while.
    Things work out best for those who make the best of the way things work out.-John Wooden
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  • wutadumsn23
    wutadumsn23 Posts: 3,702
    edited February 2010
    Congrats, like everybody else said be sure to let us know how you like it.

    -Jeff
    HT Rig
    Receiver- Onkyo TX-SR806
    Mains- Polk Audio Monitor 70
    Center- Polk Audio CS2
    Surrounds- Polk Audio TSi 500's :D
    Sub- Polk Audio PSW125
    Retired- Polk Audio Monitor 40's
    T.V.- 60" Sony SXRD KDS-60A2000 LCoS
    Blu-Ray- 80 GB PS3


    2 CH rig (in progress)
    Polk Audio Monitor 10A's :cool:

    It's not that I'm insensitive, I just don't care.. :D
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  • Murray1
    Murray1 Posts: 193
    edited February 2010
    Make sure you add Hsu subs to your list. Check out their website for pricing and specials. Great subs.
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  • digitalvideo
    digitalvideo Posts: 983
    edited February 2010
    blockatvalpo wrote: »
    The wife gave me permission to buy a new sub, so I've been looking at a couple different ones. My current set-up is:

    Receiver: SR6001
    VM30's = front L/R
    VM20 = Center
    RM6751 x4 = surround sounds

    The room that the sub is going into is 19x20, but we have the HT spil into a section of that (probably 11x20). There's no wall dividing it into two rooms, just our sectional.

    My budget is $600 and the subs I'm looking at are:

    Polk Audio DSW Pro 600: http://signature.crutchfield.com/s_107DSWP600/Polk-Audio-DSW-PRO-600.html?tp=187

    Velodyne DLS4000R: http://signature.crutchfield.com/s_2324000RB/Velodyne-DLS-4000R.html?tp=187

    Martin Logan: http://www.amazon.com/MartinLogan-DYNBLD-Dynamo-10-Inch-Subwoofer/dp/B000FIJA6W/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

    Polk Audio PSW505: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882290130

    Would one sub be enough for this room or should I look into getting two? I'm willing to look at other brands. My current Kenwood sub isn't cutting it right now.

    Thanks for your help.

    jb

    The AV123 MFW15 will blow all those away and is beating subs in the $3000 to $5000 price range. It beat the SVS PB12 Ultra in music and movies.

    Great professional shootout test of subs in the link below -

    http://www.tweakcityaudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11
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  • Matt34
    Matt34 Posts: 318
    edited February 2010
    digitalvideo wrote: »
    The AV123 MFW15 will blow all those away and is beating subs in the $3000 to $5000 price range. It beat the SVS PB12 Ultra in music and movies.

    Great professional shootout test of subs in the link below -

    http://www.tweakcityaudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11

    Sure, if you want to buy from a company that literally is circling the toilet in multiple litigations involving hundreds of thousands of dollars.

    Besides he already ordered the SVS.
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  • Sherardp
    Sherardp Posts: 8,038
    edited February 2010
    digitalvideo wrote: »
    The AV123 MFW15 will blow all those away and is beating subs in the $3000 to $5000 price range. It beat the SVS PB12 Ultra in music and movies.

    Great professional shootout test of subs in the link below -

    http://www.tweakcityaudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11

    I bet you it won't be the SVS when it's plugged in. I can promise you, should the SVS fail in any form or fashion it will be taken care of also. Nothing against the MFW when it works, but there are so many angry customers out there I don't even bother to consider product from them.

    Edit: Excellent choice on the sub OP, enjoy. Make sure you get it dialed in though.
    Shoot the jumper.....................BALLIN.............!!!!!

    Home Theater Pics in the Showcase :cool:

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showcase/view.php?userid=73580
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  • blockatvalpo
    blockatvalpo Posts: 87
    edited February 2010
    I did a quick google search on MFW and I'm glad I went with SVS. Jack was able to answer all of my questions promptly and didn't try to upsell me, which made me like them even more. I should have it next week, so I'll post my impressions after it's set-up. All I know is, it's going to blow my Kenwood 1050sw out of the water.
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  • blockatvalpo
    blockatvalpo Posts: 87
    edited March 2010
    My subwoofer just arrived, so I'll be setting it up tonight. Anything I should know before or do before setting it up?
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  • wutadumsn23
    wutadumsn23 Posts: 3,702
    edited March 2010
    Hook it up via LFE with a subwoofer cable and be sure to try it in as many different positions as possible. Run the auto calibration program on your AVR (if it has one) and you should be just fine. Good luck and congrats on the new toy.

    -Jeff
    HT Rig
    Receiver- Onkyo TX-SR806
    Mains- Polk Audio Monitor 70
    Center- Polk Audio CS2
    Surrounds- Polk Audio TSi 500's :D
    Sub- Polk Audio PSW125
    Retired- Polk Audio Monitor 40's
    T.V.- 60" Sony SXRD KDS-60A2000 LCoS
    Blu-Ray- 80 GB PS3


    2 CH rig (in progress)
    Polk Audio Monitor 10A's :cool:

    It's not that I'm insensitive, I just don't care.. :D
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  • blockatvalpo
    blockatvalpo Posts: 87
    edited March 2010
    Well, I unpacked the subwoofer last night and it's as big as I thought I would be. I hooked it up via a subwoofer cable and ran the auto-speaker set-up on the receiver. I was going to play around with it more, but my wife told me that if I woke our 6 month old son that I would have to put him back to bed. Instead of playing around with it, I spent the evening re-arranging our basement, bc the wife didn't like the audio stand in the middle of the wall (I moved the stand so the subwoofer could go in the corner of the room). I'm planning on watching a movie or playing xbox tonight, so I'll test her out then.
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  • wutadumsn23
    wutadumsn23 Posts: 3,702
    edited March 2010
    Sounds good, I imagine you are going to be happy, lol.

    -Jeff
    HT Rig
    Receiver- Onkyo TX-SR806
    Mains- Polk Audio Monitor 70
    Center- Polk Audio CS2
    Surrounds- Polk Audio TSi 500's :D
    Sub- Polk Audio PSW125
    Retired- Polk Audio Monitor 40's
    T.V.- 60" Sony SXRD KDS-60A2000 LCoS
    Blu-Ray- 80 GB PS3


    2 CH rig (in progress)
    Polk Audio Monitor 10A's :cool:

    It's not that I'm insensitive, I just don't care.. :D
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  • janmike
    janmike Posts: 6,146
    edited March 2010
    Congrats. I am sure you will be happy. SVS make great subs.
    Michael ;)
    In the beginning, all knowledge was new!
    NORTH of 60°
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