upside down Center speaker

kcouncil
kcouncil Posts: 4
edited February 2010 in Basic Hookup/Wiring Questions
I am going to mount my CSi5 upside down in my home theater. Do I need to reverse the +/- speaker wires or just leave them the way the would be if it was upright? (+ to red and - to black)
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  • Huck344
    Huck344 Posts: 453
    edited February 2010
    Really???
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  • kcoc321
    kcoc321 Posts: 1,788
    edited February 2010
    Huck344 wrote: »
    Really???
    Welcome to Club Polk, kcouncil,
    The wiring stays the same. Red to red, black to black... you're good to go. :D






    Yep, Huck..LOL
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  • packetjones
    packetjones Posts: 1,059
    edited February 2010
    You would leave them the normal way.

    I have my center upside down so that it points up towards the listening position. Have not had any issues at all with it.
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  • Knucklehead
    Knucklehead Posts: 3,602
    edited February 2010
    The sound dosent come out backwards?
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  • Huck344
    Huck344 Posts: 453
    edited February 2010
    Sorry, didn't realize you were new. . . Thought someone was making a joke. Welcome to Club Polk!
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,329
    edited February 2010
    You have to listen standing on your head.

    J/K. Welcome to CP.
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  • kcouncil
    kcouncil Posts: 4
    edited February 2010
    Thanks guys....yes I was serious. I was thinking that because the ctr channel has 2 speakers that they were left and right. I guess the sound is the same in both speakers so it would not matter if it was upside down. Trust me...I've asked way dumber questions than this one!
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  • jimmydep
    jimmydep Posts: 1,305
    edited February 2010
    Don't sweat it.....welcome to the Club
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited February 2010
    Welcome to Club Polk kcouncil! There is no such thing as a dumb question, how else are you going learn. Although I have to laugh as that was a doozy! Stick around this is the best club on the internet.

    Have fun.
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  • TNTsTunes
    TNTsTunes Posts: 751
    edited February 2010
    I think this might deserve an award of some kind.

    Wow... 2 posts since joining in Dec of 2005.... :confused:
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  • Knucklehead
    Knucklehead Posts: 3,602
    edited February 2010
    TNTsTunes wrote: »
    Wow... 2 posts since joining in Dec of 2005.... :confused:

    I noticed that too...LOL.:p
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  • GSRBOB
    GSRBOB Posts: 172
    edited February 2010
    Wire it 360 degrees out of phase lol J/K Welcome aboard.
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  • kcouncil
    kcouncil Posts: 4
    edited February 2010
    LOL! My wife is even ribbing me about it.
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,329
    edited February 2010
    The only dumb question is the one not asked.
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited February 2010
    TOOLFORLIFEFAN wrote: »
    The only dumb question is the one not asked.

    Right on Larry! On another note here we are welcoming a guy who's been a member longer than us LMAO!!!!
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  • lwright84
    lwright84 Posts: 37
    edited February 2010
    I share his concern, but not his lack of electrical knowledge! ;)

    Seriously though.. wouldn't a sound that pans across the front come out backwards as it tries to play from R to L if the center is flipped upside down? I have always wondered that myself but I have a lack of audio theory knowledge. :D
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  • lwright84
    lwright84 Posts: 37
    edited February 2010
    hearingimpared wrote: »
    Right on Larry! On another note here we are welcoming a guy who's been a member longer than us LMAO!!!!

    Just think, he could be nearing 20,000 posts by now according to your stats :p
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited February 2010
    lwright84 wrote: »
    Just think, he could be nearing 20,000 posts by now according to your stats :p

    You're way behind according to my calculations.:D;)
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited February 2010
    kcouncil wrote: »
    Thanks guys....yes I was serious. I was thinking that because the ctr channel has 2 speakers that they were left and right. I guess the sound is the same in both speakers so it would not matter if it was upside down. Trust me...I've asked way dumber questions than this one!

    No, you're fine. Hey, sometimes you just gotta ask.
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  • wutadumsn23
    wutadumsn23 Posts: 3,702
    edited February 2010
    LOL, welcome to Club Polk. What a way to make an entrance, lol.

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  • lwright84
    lwright84 Posts: 37
    edited February 2010
    lwright84 wrote: »
    I share his concern, but not his lack of electrical knowledge! ;)

    Seriously though.. wouldn't a sound that pans across the front come out backwards as it tries to play from R to L if the center is flipped upside down? I have always wondered that myself but I have a lack of audio theory knowledge. :D

    Anyone? Bueller?:p
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  • cstmar01
    cstmar01 Posts: 4,424
    edited February 2010
    never found an issue with mine as I had mine like this due to having a lower stand and recently just switched it the other way around. Personally I never noticed anything like this happening as I notice the shift in sound more from the L,C,R and vise versa than from one cone of the center to the other, but maybe thats just me.
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  • Huck344
    Huck344 Posts: 453
    edited February 2010
    lwright84 wrote: »
    I share his concern, but not his lack of electrical knowledge! ;)

    Seriously though.. wouldn't a sound that pans across the front come out backwards as it tries to play from R to L if the center is flipped upside down? I have always wondered that myself but I have a lack of audio theory knowledge. :D

    I don't have much electrical knowledge, but I would assume that since the center channel is only receiving one signal, the two woofers would receive the center signal simultaneously and thus fire in unison. Therefore, the center would not be able to discern a left signal or a right signal. . . That is my assumption and we all know what happens when one assumes!!!
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  • seeclear
    seeclear Posts: 1,243
    edited February 2010
    Huck344 wrote: »
    I don't have much electrical knowledge, but I would assume that since the center channel is only receiving one signal, the two woofers would receive the center signal simultaneously and thus fire in unison. Therefore, the center would not be able to discern a left signal or a right signal. . . That is my assumption and we all know what happens when one assumes!!!

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  • cstmar01
    cstmar01 Posts: 4,424
    edited February 2010
    wow duhhh I forgot to put that in my post as well. As I would have said I'm not sure how a speaker would know to break the signal into one to go to the right cone and the other to the left as it is coming through the same cross over that is having the same signal sent. The only breaking apart of the signal I could see is the high range to the tweeter and the the rest to the woofers, as the cross over can't send the signal to the left cone and the other to the right ect.
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  • lwright84
    lwright84 Posts: 37
    edited February 2010
    Then how does the sound appear to come "Across" the speaker.. left to right. Is that an audio illusion generated by the sound coming from a speaker on the left, to a center, to a speaker on the right? It sure seems like it plays in the left speaker first, and then the right speaker, before it moves on to the Right front tower.
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  • Huck344
    Huck344 Posts: 453
    edited February 2010
    lwright84 wrote: »
    Then how does the sound appear to come "Across" the speaker.. left to right.

    Magic!!! :cool:
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  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited February 2010
    lwright84 wrote: »
    Then how does the sound appear to come "Across" the speaker.. left to right. Is that an audio illusion generated by the sound coming from a speaker on the left, to a center, to a speaker on the right? It sure seems like it plays in the left speaker first, and then the right speaker, before it moves on to the Right front tower.

    Bingo. ;)

    Any left/right you may "hear" coming specifically from the center is a matter of residual signal/decay from the main that the sound is moving from.
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  • kcoc321
    kcoc321 Posts: 1,788
    edited February 2010
    Unless the center CHANNEL speaker has two inputs, left and right, there is only a single source signal going to it, and can't go to a internal left or right driver. (Until we get nano-bot stereo systems) It appears to move because you are hearing sound from your left or right speaker. Just like the sonic image can appear to come from the center of the sound stage when running 2 channel.
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  • lwright84
    lwright84 Posts: 37
    edited February 2010
    Ok great, thanks for the answers and explanation of the "magic" :P
    My Home Theater: :cool:
    Display: 65" Mitsubishi WD65C9 DLP
    A/V Receiver: Denon AVR-888
    Fronts: Polk Audio Monitor 70s
    Center: Polk Audio CS1
    Rears: Polk Audio R300s
    Sub: BIC Venturi V1020
    HDP: 80GB PS3
    Cable: AT&T Uverse HD
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