Now what?
wayneniamat
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Hi all. New to the forum. Started in 2008 with RTiA5 and a PSW125, an RM10 5-pack that includes some small surrounds and centre. Upgraded to a CSiA6 centre and last week the FXiA4s for surrounds. I'm using 2 RM's for Surround Backs only now.
I've set all the speakers to small, 80 as the crossover. I've bi-wired my mains and centre. Powering the setup is a Yamaha HTR-6060 (specs below). I could bi-amp the mains using my surround back channel but I need those for gaming.
The space is small, about 10ft between me and any speaker.
I use the system for movies and ps3. I use the calibration mic to setup the system and it sounds great to me but ... I've been advised that my receiver might be underpowered.
Is it likely I've not yet tapped into the polks potential? Can someone help me to justify getting a new receiver.
Or maybe an simple amplifier?
YAMAHA HTR6060
AUDIO SECTION
Minimum RMS Output Power for Front, Center, Surround,
Surround back
1 kHz, 0.7% THD, 8 Ω ....................................................... 105 W
Dynamic Power (IHF)
Front L/R, 8/6/4/2 Ω ...................................... 120/155/190/235 W
Maximum Output Power [Europe model]
1 kHz, 0.7% THD, 4 Ω ....................................................... 140 W
Dynamic Headroom
8 Ω ...................................................................................... 1.4 dB
IEC Output Power [Europe model]
Front L/R, 1 kHz, 0.06% THD, 8 Ω ................................... 100 W
Damping Factor (IHF)
Front L/R, SPEAKERS A, 20 Hz to 20 kHz, 8 Ω
................................................................................. 120 or more
Input Sensitivity/Input Impedance
PHONO (MM)........................................................ 3.5 mV/47 kΩ
CD, etc. ................................................................. 200 mV/47 kΩ
MULTI CH INPUT ............................................... 200 mV/47 kΩ
Maximum Input Voltage
PHONO (MM)
1 kHz, 0.1% THD .............................................. 60 mV or more
CD, etc.
Effect On, 1 kHz, 0.5% THD .............................. 2.3 V or more
Rated Output Voltage/Output Impedance
OUT (REC) .......................................................... 200 mV/1.2 kΩ
PRE OUT .................................................................. 1.0 V/1.2 kΩ
SUBWOOFER (2ch Stereo, FRONT SP: SMALL)
................................................................................ 1.0 V/1.2 kΩ
Headphone Jack Rated Output/Impedance
CD, etc. (1 kHz, 50 mV, 8 Ω) ............................... 150 mV/100 Ω
Frequency Response
CD to Front L/R, 10 Hz to 100 kHz
...................................................................................... +0/3 dB
RIAA Equalization Deviation
PHONO (MM) .............................................................. 0 ± 0.5 dB
Total Harmonic Distortion
PHONO (MM) to OUT (REC)
20 Hz to 20 kHz, 1 V ............................................ 0.02% or less
CD, etc. to Front L/R
2ch Stereo, 20 Hz to 20 kHz, 50 W, 8 Ω .............. 0.06% or less
Signal to Noise Ratio (IHF-A Network)
PHONO (MM, 5 mV) to Front L/R
[U.S.A. and Canada models] ................................. 86 dB or more
[Europe model]
............................................................................. 81 dB or more
CD, etc. (Effect Off, 250 mV) to Front L/R
........................................................................... 100 dB or more
Residual Noise (IHF-A Network)
Front L/R ............................................................... 150 μV or less
Channel Separation (1 kHz/10 kHz)
PHONO (shortened) to Front L/R ............... 60 dB/55 dB or more
CD, etc.
(5.1 kΩ shortened) to Front L/R ............... 60 dB/45 dB or more
Tone Control (Front L/R)
BASS Boost/Cut ..................................................... ±10 dB/50 Hz
BASS Turnover Frequency ................................................. 350 Hz
TREBLE Boost/Cut .............................................. ±10 dB/20 kHz
TREBLE Turnover Frequency ........................................... 3.5 kHz
Volume Control ...................................... MUTE/80 dB to 16.5 dB
Filter Characteristics (fc=40/60/80/90/100/110/120/160/200 Hz)
H.P.F.
(FRONT SP, CENTER SP, SUR. L/R SP, SUR. B L/R SP:
SMALL/SML) ............................................................12 dB/oct.
L.P.F. (Subwoofer) .........................................................24 dB/oct.
I've set all the speakers to small, 80 as the crossover. I've bi-wired my mains and centre. Powering the setup is a Yamaha HTR-6060 (specs below). I could bi-amp the mains using my surround back channel but I need those for gaming.
The space is small, about 10ft between me and any speaker.
I use the system for movies and ps3. I use the calibration mic to setup the system and it sounds great to me but ... I've been advised that my receiver might be underpowered.
Is it likely I've not yet tapped into the polks potential? Can someone help me to justify getting a new receiver.
Or maybe an simple amplifier?YAMAHA HTR6060
AUDIO SECTION
Minimum RMS Output Power for Front, Center, Surround,
Surround back
1 kHz, 0.7% THD, 8 Ω ....................................................... 105 W
Dynamic Power (IHF)
Front L/R, 8/6/4/2 Ω ...................................... 120/155/190/235 W
Maximum Output Power [Europe model]
1 kHz, 0.7% THD, 4 Ω ....................................................... 140 W
Dynamic Headroom
8 Ω ...................................................................................... 1.4 dB
IEC Output Power [Europe model]
Front L/R, 1 kHz, 0.06% THD, 8 Ω ................................... 100 W
Damping Factor (IHF)
Front L/R, SPEAKERS A, 20 Hz to 20 kHz, 8 Ω
................................................................................. 120 or more
Input Sensitivity/Input Impedance
PHONO (MM)........................................................ 3.5 mV/47 kΩ
CD, etc. ................................................................. 200 mV/47 kΩ
MULTI CH INPUT ............................................... 200 mV/47 kΩ
Maximum Input Voltage
PHONO (MM)
1 kHz, 0.1% THD .............................................. 60 mV or more
CD, etc.
Effect On, 1 kHz, 0.5% THD .............................. 2.3 V or more
Rated Output Voltage/Output Impedance
OUT (REC) .......................................................... 200 mV/1.2 kΩ
PRE OUT .................................................................. 1.0 V/1.2 kΩ
SUBWOOFER (2ch Stereo, FRONT SP: SMALL)
................................................................................ 1.0 V/1.2 kΩ
Headphone Jack Rated Output/Impedance
CD, etc. (1 kHz, 50 mV, 8 Ω) ............................... 150 mV/100 Ω
Frequency Response
CD to Front L/R, 10 Hz to 100 kHz
...................................................................................... +0/3 dB
RIAA Equalization Deviation
PHONO (MM) .............................................................. 0 ± 0.5 dB
Total Harmonic Distortion
PHONO (MM) to OUT (REC)
20 Hz to 20 kHz, 1 V ............................................ 0.02% or less
CD, etc. to Front L/R
2ch Stereo, 20 Hz to 20 kHz, 50 W, 8 Ω .............. 0.06% or less
Signal to Noise Ratio (IHF-A Network)
PHONO (MM, 5 mV) to Front L/R
[U.S.A. and Canada models] ................................. 86 dB or more
[Europe model]
............................................................................. 81 dB or more
CD, etc. (Effect Off, 250 mV) to Front L/R
........................................................................... 100 dB or more
Residual Noise (IHF-A Network)
Front L/R ............................................................... 150 μV or less
Channel Separation (1 kHz/10 kHz)
PHONO (shortened) to Front L/R ............... 60 dB/55 dB or more
CD, etc.
(5.1 kΩ shortened) to Front L/R ............... 60 dB/45 dB or more
Tone Control (Front L/R)
BASS Boost/Cut ..................................................... ±10 dB/50 Hz
BASS Turnover Frequency ................................................. 350 Hz
TREBLE Boost/Cut .............................................. ±10 dB/20 kHz
TREBLE Turnover Frequency ........................................... 3.5 kHz
Volume Control ...................................... MUTE/80 dB to 16.5 dB
Filter Characteristics (fc=40/60/80/90/100/110/120/160/200 Hz)
H.P.F.
(FRONT SP, CENTER SP, SUR. L/R SP, SUR. B L/R SP:
SMALL/SML) ............................................................12 dB/oct.
L.P.F. (Subwoofer) .........................................................24 dB/oct.
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Welcome fellow Canuck! where in ON are you?
As for being underpowered, I'd say you could do much worse. You could also benefit from an external amp. -
Welcome fellow Canuck! where in ON are you?
As for being underpowered, I'd say you could do much worse. You could also benefit from an external amp.
Another Canadian Eh? How convenient! I sell hondas out in brampton but live in oakville. You?
I was thinking about a simple 2 channel amp and suggested some sort of used 'adcom 5?5' but my advisor spoke confidently about how they suffer from 'leakage'. I don't even know what an OHM is but 'leakage' I understand.
I can't describe sound yet, but I yearn for clarity at low volume levels since I'm in a condo. My neighbours must be angels cause they've only come knocking once but I know I'm turning it up too loud to hear what I think I should be hearing.
What do you think, a two channel amp for the fronts? Thanks! -
Welcome to Club Polk wayneniamat! There are lot's of Canucks on this forum. Have fun.
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Welcome to the club.......I think your just ok with that set-up.......
Jimmy -
Your speakers are efficient and you say it sounds great, why do anything?
ANy 20+ year old SS amp has the potential for leaky or dried up caps. If you can find a nice deal on one that is working good or recently rebuilt then go for it. It will make lower level listening more detailed but then its like having a fast car that you can only do 55 MPH.
MIght try a ANthem Amp 1, they were made somewhere near you.
Welcome to CP !
Canada should have bailed out Northern TelecomSpeakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
Cables: Mits S3 IC and Spk cables| PS Audio PCs -
wayneniamat wrote: »Another Canadian Eh? How convenient! I sell hondas out in brampton but live in oakville. You?
I was thinking about a simple 2 channel amp and suggested some sort of used 'adcom 5?5' but my advisor spoke confidently about how they suffer from 'leakage'. I don't even know what an OHM is but 'leakage' I understand.
I can't describe sound yet, but I yearn for clarity at low volume levels since I'm in a condo. My neighbours must be angels cause they've only come knocking once but I know I'm turning it up too loud to hear what I think I should be hearing.
What do you think, a two channel amp for the fronts? Thanks!
I work for CRA, dowtown Ottawa but live in Orleans.
An amp be it 2 ch or more will help, you will hear everything needed without having to turn it up. That is one of things I noticed when I bought my first amps. -
I work for CRA, dowtown Ottawa but live in Orleans.
An amp be it 2 ch or more will help, you will hear everything needed without having to turn it up. That is one of things I noticed when I bought my first amps.
Thanks. Suggestions where to find a db meter? db meter rental? -
Welcome. I work in Brampton =P. Which Honda do you work for? I go to Suzuki Brampton sometimes for my bike parts.
Check out CanuckAudioMart website for good deals on local 2-channel amps. Good Adcom GFA-545, 555 or 555II, or newer 5400 usually go pretty cheap. Personally, I did not like how Adcom sounded with Polk speakers - too much forwardness and brightness. Carver will give you a bit calmer sound (TFM-24/25?). I found older HK Citation BJT-based amp really calmed down my Polk RT-series speakers and opened them up the most.
(I am sorry, I really don't like Yamaha - every speakers I tried with new(er) Yammy receivers/amps sounded way too bright to me.
HTH.Panasonic PT-AE4000U projector for movies
Carada 106" Precision Series (Classic Cinema White)
Denon AVR-X3600H pre/pro
Outlaw 770 7-channel amplifier
B&W CDM1-SE fronts
B&W CDM-CNT center
B&W CDM1 rears on MoPADs
JBL SP8CII in-ceiling height speakers
Samsung DTB-H260F OTA HDTV tuner
DUAL NHT SubTwo subwoofers
Oppo BDP-93 Blu-Ray player
Belkin PF60 Power Center
Harmony 1100 RF remote with RF extender
Sony XBR-X950G 55" 4K HDR Smart TV + PS3 in the living room -
wayneniamat wrote: »...
I was thinking about a simple 2 channel amp and suggested some sort of used 'adcom 5?5' but my advisor spoke confidently about how they suffer from 'leakage'. I don't even know what an OHM is but 'leakage' I understand....
What do you think, a two channel amp for the fronts? Thanks!
Only two amps from Adcom suffered from some Elna caps. Those 2 amps were the 585, and the 565 mono block. All the others were free from the defective Elna caps. I ran a two channel amp for a while. You will need to setup the calibration to cut left and right channels.
BenPlease. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
Thanks
Ben -
These would work just fine and not to bad of price. You could prob talk him down.
http://www.usedottawa.com/classified-ad/11300588
No Affil. -
These would work just fine and not to bad of price. You could prob talk him down.
http://www.usedottawa.com/classified-ad/11300588
No Affil.
They look badass considering they only put out 125 watts rms. I would imagine that is a very conservative rating and they probably have loads of dynamic headroom. -
hearingimpared wrote: »They look badass considering they only put out 125 watts rms. I would imagine that is a very conservative rating and they probably have loads of dynamic headroom.
If they are anything like the Ma700, which I had 2 of they kicked major butt. They are heavy and well built with the classic Marantz sound. If I had 200-250 extra and wanted to sell my Sonace, I'd buy these. Not to mention I don't have the space either for them in my audio cabinet for my 2 ch. -
If they are anything like the Ma700, which I had 2 of they kicked major butt. They are heavy and well built with the classic Marantz sound. If I had 200-250 extra and wanted to sell my Sonace, I'd buy these. Not to mention I don't have the space either for them in my audio cabinet for my 2 ch.
There are plenty of floor level amp stands to be had. Mapleshade makes a really nice one with heavy brass footers and made of maple . . . but it is very expensive.
http://shop.mapleshadestore.com/departments.asp?dept=46 -
hearingimpared wrote: »There are plenty of floor level amp stands to be had. Mapleshade makes a really nice one with heavy brass footers and made of maple . . . but it is very expensive.
http://shop.mapleshadestore.com/departments.asp?dept=46
As tempting as it may be, I have other $$ priorities in the coming weeks...like my 10 day snorkeling trip in Akumal!
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As tempting as it may be, I have other $$ priorities in the coming weeks...like my 10 day snorkeling trip in Akumal!
Good for you Bro, make sure to take plenty of pics to post here.
My priorities are, just being broke!:eek::D -
hearingimpared wrote: »Good for you Bro, make sure to take plenty of pics to post here.
My priorities are, just being broke!:eek::D
Not to thread jack....but I will and this is it, We have the Olympus Waterproof camera, this will be the first time I really get to use it and I have 3x 2gig chips just wating to be used. I took pics in a pool and while in the ocean but never swimming with fish and turtles.
Anyway to the OP, these amps would make a big difference on your set up.
