DIY Record Cleaner with a Technics TT

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  • jrgoswick
    jrgoswick Posts: 159
    edited March 2010
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    PAINT????? WTF????? I think it's EFFING sexy as is. But that's me.
    +1 for the ingenuity of this project, totally groovybitchin!
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  • SCompRacer
    SCompRacer Posts: 8,353
    edited March 2010
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    High marks on the metal work Larry! I'm anxious to see the finished product. Bet you are too.:D
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 16,938
    edited March 2010
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    Well since I have to be at the shop today, ( I was to be picking up a set of 3.1tl's) :( I got this welded up and did some grinding and put the DA to it.

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  • AudioGenics
    AudioGenics Posts: 2,567
    edited March 2010
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    That is some impressive creative work !

    awesome !
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited March 2010
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    Larry, is that a delrin tube you are using for vacuuming?
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 16,938
    edited March 2010
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    hearingimpared wrote: »
    Larry, is that a delrin tube you are using for vacuuming?

    Not Yet but will be.. Don't you worry..;) I just used this for testing. after talking to you a few weeks ago about using delrin I plan to get some..
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 16,938
    edited March 2010
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    Well I got her back from paint, now I just got to get her up and running.
    I will do the lexan cover sometime this week. Should be cleaning some vinyl by the end of the week..:cool:

    I told Brad at the paint shop to surprise me with the paint and boy was I surprised.

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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,115
    edited March 2010
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    That looks to sweet to be believed, man. Great job!!!



    Hmmmm, now if this could only make the demo circuit for a proper review.:D;)
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited March 2010
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    Sweet!
    Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
    Thanks
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 16,938
    edited March 2010
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    Keiko wrote: »
    Copestetic! :cool:

    What's with the orbs in the pics though, Larry? Poltergeists? :D

    Must Be Poltergeists..:D I need to clean the lens. the pics do the paint job no justice but still cool in its own way..
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,115
    edited March 2010
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    Keiko wrote: »
    Copestetic! :cool:

    What's with the orbs in the pics though, Larry? Poltergeists? :D

    Good catch Mike.

    That one on the side looks like the Stay-Puft Marshmellow Man from Ghostbusters:p...
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 16,938
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    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    That looks to sweet to be believed, man. Great job!!!



    Hmmmm, now if this could only make the demo circuit for a proper review.:D;)
    ben62670 wrote: »
    Sweet!


    Thanks Guys..;)
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited March 2010
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    Nice Larry. It sure beats the look of the 16.5. BTW, what's materials make up that clamp? Also, how does it work meaning how does it do the clamping job? Also do you use it on your turntable(s)?
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  • polkatese
    polkatese Posts: 6,767
    edited March 2010
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    Excellent work!
    I am sorry, I have no opinion on the matter. I am sure you do. So, don't mind me, I just want to talk audio and pie.
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 16,938
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    hearingimpared wrote: »
    Nice Larry. It sure beats the look of the 16.5. BTW, what's materials make up that clamp? Also, how does it work meaning how does it do the clamping job? Also do you use it on your turntable(s)?

    The Clamp is a ClearAudio Clamp I got off ebay... The top twist and locks it with a collet body.Yes I do use it on my TT.

    But I should have sold this TT and got a real RCM?? as was stated in the beginning of this thread. How dare I take on a project like this using a TT i spent $30 on and I still only have $60 into.

    That was being sarcastic by the way.. LOL:)

    and Thanks Joe.;)
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  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited March 2010
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    ABsolutely amazing, very fitting to match the quality of the TT,
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  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 6,204
    edited March 2010
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    Looks nice, but how does it actually work? It seems to me that 33RPM might be way too fast for vacuum cleaning. VIP and the others spin around 10-16RPM and have much greater torque than the Technics. That just seems like a lot of work for something that might not work very well.

    Great work on the cabinet though. I would consider selling the SL1200 and using the money towards a VPI 16.5. You could still use the cabinet for holding supplies.
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited March 2010
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    TOOLFORLIFEFAN wrote: »
    The Clamp is a ClearAudio Clamp I got off ebay... The top twist and locks it with a collet body.Yes I do use it on my TT.

    But I should have sold this TT and got a real RCM?? as was stated in the beginning of this thread. How dare I take on a project like this using a TT i spent $30 on and I still only have $60 into.

    That was being sarcastic by the way.. LOL:)

    and Thanks Joe.;)

    That's a very good clamp Larry and it uses the same basic design for clamping as mine.

    +1 on the torque thing. Maybe you could adjust it to turn more slowly.
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 16,938
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    billbillw wrote: »
    Looks nice, but how does it actually work? It seems to me that 33RPM might be way too fast for vacuum cleaning. VIP and the others spin around 10-16RPM and have much greater torque than the Technics. That just seems like a lot of work for something that might not work very well.

    Great work on the cabinet though. I would consider selling the SL1200 and using the money towards a VPI 16.5. You could still use the cabinet for holding supplies.


    I have tested it before I built the cabnet and the nice thing about using the technics is you can slow the speed down lower then 33rpm with this being a DJ TT it worked great. Trust me I had to test it before I went any further into it. if it wasen't going to work I would have just sold it then.

    The big test will be later this week though..;)
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  • engtaz
    engtaz Posts: 7,654
    edited March 2010
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    Super job. Love the stardust look.
    engtaz

    I love how music can brighten up a bad day.
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 16,938
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    hearingimpared wrote: »
    That's a very good clamp Larry and it uses the same basic design for clamping as mine.

    +1 on the torque thing. Maybe you could adjust it to turn more slowly.


    Yeah but yours is better (the clamp) let me get my 2 projects out of the way and we will talk more about that.

    You can adjust the speed to a lower speed, one of the reasons I wanted a Technics or AT.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,091
    edited March 2010
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    Very snazzy a helluva nice project!!!

    I too have concerns about the rotation speed for cleaning records. The pitch control is only good for 8% in either direction so your still at around 29-30 rpm at the slowest speed which is still about twice as fast as what would be considered ideal.

    Let us know how it works out, hopefully it will do what you want it to do.

    H9
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  • schwarcw
    schwarcw Posts: 7,328
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    Exceptionally nice looking! Great job!

    Have you thought about where the excess fluid from spraying rinse or cleaning solution will migrate? I know the VPI motor, etc are sealed. I usually have a pool of water from my spray bottles around the perimeter of the VPI TT.

    Great setup!
    Carl

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  • BIZILL
    BIZILL Posts: 5,432
    edited March 2010
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    when i get my **** fired Tool, i'm moving up to coloroddy and you're going to employ me. i got some manufacturing skills. consider this my application and my sda's are on my resume.

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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
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    schwarcw wrote: »
    Exceptionally nice looking! Great job!

    Have you thought about where the excess fluid from spraying rinse or cleaning solution will migrate? I know the VPI motor, etc are sealed. I usually have a pool of water from my spray bottles around the perimeter of the VPI TT.

    Great setup!

    Carl,

    Just an FYI. When I use the spray bottle from my Vinyl-Zyme Gold, I hold the record in my hand with my middle finger in the hole and the edge against the heal of my hand. I then spray 8 to 10 sprays on around the record then place it on the turntable and apply with a four inch foam paint brush.

    The rest of the fluids I apply on the turntable with a squirt bottle and place a line of fluid on the radius from the lead out groove to the lead in grove then scrub in with VPI/MFSL brushes depending on the fluid.
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  • Fongolio
    Fongolio Posts: 3,516
    edited March 2010
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    That is one wicked awesome RCM!! Nice job. Now to complete the look I think a mirror disco ball hanging over top would be in order.
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 16,938
    edited March 2010
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    WOW!! This project turned out awesome, just did some testing and what a killer unit. Now if my delrin tube would get here. The RPM was not an issue at all it sucked it up dry.

    Joe I will PM you later, I need some info and I am typing from my iPod.

    I will also post some pics of the inside.

    Larry.
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  • jrgoswick
    jrgoswick Posts: 159
    edited March 2010
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    MAN-you had it painted. Just my taste, but the raw metal thing had me going. Either way, still a groovybitchin' project.
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    Polk Monitor 12's with RDO's and XO's
    Polk CS300 Center
    Polk Monitor Series 4 rears

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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited March 2010
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    Great to hear Larry. Excellent work.
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 16,938
    edited March 2010
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    Getting there.. all I have left to do is the lexan cover, Delrin tube,Latch for the door, and mod the switch for the vacuum on the side of the cabnet so I don't have to open the door to turn it on and off.

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