2.1 system question

coolsax
coolsax Posts: 1,824
edited February 2010 in 2 Channel Audio
This doesn't currently apply to me and maybe a stupid question but i'm wanting to eventually put a 2 channel system together. If I were to decide to go the Monitors with subwoofer route as opposed to full range floorstanders, would I need to make sure that the Pre has a sub out? If so that would seem to severly restrict your choices in Pre-amps.

I saw on one website that stated you could run speaker level inputs from AVR or power amp into the sub and then run out from the sub to the speakers, but would you then be using the Sub's internal amp to run the speakers which would really negate the need for a power amp, or would the power amp essentially pass through the sub input and output and you'd be using the power amp for power?
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  • bigred7078
    bigred7078 Posts: 477
    edited February 2010
    coolsax wrote: »
    This doesn't currently apply to me and maybe a stupid question but i'm wanting to eventually put a 2 channel system together. If I were to decide to go the Monitors with subwoofer route as opposed to full range floorstanders, would I need to make sure that the Pre has a sub out? If so that would seem to severly restrict your choices in Pre-amps.

    I saw on one website that stated you could run speaker level inputs from AVR or power amp into the sub and then run out from the sub to the speakers, but would you then be using the Sub's internal amp to run the speakers which would really negate the need for a power amp, or would the power amp essentially pass through the sub input and output and you'd be using the power amp for power?

    Not necessarily. You can run a sub inline with your speakers and allow your mains to act like full range speakers. REL's integrate this nicely with their speakon IC connectors. This is essentially crossing the subover at whatever point your telling it to and no its not using the subs amp to power the speaker.

    OR you can get a pre-amp with sub out capabilities like the Parasound 2100 or Emotiva USP-1 which are both excellent bang for the buck options that allow for subwoofer control.
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  • coolsax
    coolsax Posts: 1,824
    edited February 2010
    ok I think thats what I was trying to say with 2nd paragraph..If you don't have a sub out on a preamp, then so then the Sub input and output binding posts act as a high/low filter and pass through so that the power for the main speakers comes from the power amp and passes through the sub amp w/o actually using the sub amps power?

    have I got that right.. so you can run a sub fairly easily then even if your pre does not have a sub output?
    Main 2ch -
    BlueSound Node->Ethereal optical cable->Peachtree Audio Nova 150->GoldenEar Triton 2+
    TT - Pro-ject Classic SB with Sumiko Bluepoint.

    TV 3.1 system -
    Denon 3500 -> Dynaudio Excite 32/22
  • dc55110
    dc55110 Posts: 128
    edited February 2010
    Many subs will have stereo line level pre in/out, with the out having been run through the subs internal x-over.
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  • SanjayGolf
    SanjayGolf Posts: 1
    edited February 2010
    A Pre with a sub-out just means that Pre has a built in High Pass/Low Pass filter in which you can remove the low frequency from the signal and send it to a sub. It's exactly like a receiver when you set a crossover for LFE. That being said you dont need a sub-out for a Pre. You can just send the full signal from the Pre to the sub and let the sub's internal crossover remove the high frequencies. For this though it would be better to have a Pre with two sets of outputs.