LS90 MW7100 driver replacement

vc69
vc69 Posts: 2,500
edited March 2010 in Vintage Speakers
I had a mid driver take a crap last night. I believe the rubber surround glue was old enough that it dried out and allowed the voice coil to short.:eek:

I called Polk CS this morning and was informed that they only have MW7010 as a replacement driver so I ordered two to maintain balance with the pair.

My questions are:
Does anyone have any input as to the difference between the 7100 and the 7010?
Are there any tips or tricks in the vast knowledge base here for things I can do to check the remaining 7100 driver without having to re-glue all the other poly-surrounds?
Is that even plausible?
Lastly, in your opinion, should I be looking for used 7100's?

I am also quite interested in any feedback on crossover modifications that have been made to this model of speakers. Has anyone done anything of that sort and if so what were the results?

I love my LS90's and would be willing to sink some cash into them if the results would be noticeable.


Thanks for any input you guys can provide.
-Kevin
HT: Philips 52PFL7432D 52" LCD 1080p / Onkyo TX-SR 606 / Oppo BDP-83 SE / Comcast cable. (all HDMI)B&W 801 - Front, Polk CS350 LS - Center, Polk LS90 - Rear
2 Channel:
Oppo BDP-83 SE
Squeezebox Touch
Muscial Fidelity M1 DAC
VTL 2.5
McIntosh 2205 (refurbed)
B&W 801's
Transparent IC's
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  • adam2434
    adam2434 Posts: 995
    edited February 2010
    I can't answer your questions, but am interested in this topic, being a fellow LS90 owner.

    Did Polk provide any additional info about the 7010? Like, are its electrical and mechanical characteristics very similar to the 7100? I guess I would start with trying to get more info from Polk. They likely won't give you actual woofer data, but might be willing to give you an idea of how close they are to each other.

    The other question I would have is whether there is an ideal position for the replacements. I believe the top 2 woofers play a different range than the bottom 2, although I do not believe it's a classical 3-way design. It could be that putting the replacements in one of the bottom 2 positions would have less overall impact to the sound. Again, maybe a question for Polk.

    The only thing I would do at this point to check the other woofers would be to inspect the surrounds and gently push on the cones to detect voice coil rubbing.
    5.1 and 2.0 ch Basement Media Room: Outlaw 975/Emotiva DC-1/Rotel RB-1582 MKII/Rotel RB-1552/Audiosource Amp 3/Polk LS90, CS400i, FX500i/Outlaw X-12, LFM-1/JVD DLA-HD250/Da-Lite 100" HCCV/Sony ES BDP/Sonos Connect. DC-1/RB-1582 MKII/Sonos Connect also feed Polk 7C in garage or Dayton IO655 on patio.
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    2.0 ch Living Room: Rotel RX-1052/Emotiva DC-1/Klipsch RF-7 III/Sony ES BDP/LG 65" LED.
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  • vc69
    vc69 Posts: 2,500
    edited February 2010
    I have thoroughly checked the other drivers. No voice coil rub or surround loose thank goodness. I think you may have a good suggestion regarding replacing a bottom driver. Current research seems to indicate that the 7010 replacement is sub-par.
    -Kevin
    HT: Philips 52PFL7432D 52" LCD 1080p / Onkyo TX-SR 606 / Oppo BDP-83 SE / Comcast cable. (all HDMI)B&W 801 - Front, Polk CS350 LS - Center, Polk LS90 - Rear
    2 Channel:
    Oppo BDP-83 SE
    Squeezebox Touch
    Muscial Fidelity M1 DAC
    VTL 2.5
    McIntosh 2205 (refurbed)
    B&W 801's
    Transparent IC's
  • wallstreet
    wallstreet Posts: 1,405
    edited February 2010
    I've replaced one. The appearance is slightly different but I have noticed no audio differences. It would be hard to tell anyways. You have seven 7100's and one 7010 pumping prodigious amounts of decibels.
  • vc69
    vc69 Posts: 2,500
    edited February 2010
    Well the 7010's arrived today. I'm going to install them tonite so we'll see. I am going to install them in the lowermost position and in a mirrored configuration so hopefully, they won't affect the overall character too much.
    -Kevin
    HT: Philips 52PFL7432D 52" LCD 1080p / Onkyo TX-SR 606 / Oppo BDP-83 SE / Comcast cable. (all HDMI)B&W 801 - Front, Polk CS350 LS - Center, Polk LS90 - Rear
    2 Channel:
    Oppo BDP-83 SE
    Squeezebox Touch
    Muscial Fidelity M1 DAC
    VTL 2.5
    McIntosh 2205 (refurbed)
    B&W 801's
    Transparent IC's
  • adam2434
    adam2434 Posts: 995
    edited February 2010
    Yes, please report back.

    As a side note - was the 7010 a stock driver in a different speaker of the same era - perhaps from the original RT series? Or, was it created specifically to be a replacement for the 7100. Just curious if anyone knows.
    5.1 and 2.0 ch Basement Media Room: Outlaw 975/Emotiva DC-1/Rotel RB-1582 MKII/Rotel RB-1552/Audiosource Amp 3/Polk LS90, CS400i, FX500i/Outlaw X-12, LFM-1/JVD DLA-HD250/Da-Lite 100" HCCV/Sony ES BDP/Sonos Connect. DC-1/RB-1582 MKII/Sonos Connect also feed Polk 7C in garage or Dayton IO655 on patio.
    2.1 ch Basement Gym: Denon AVR-2807/Klipsch Forte I or NHT SB2/JBL SUB 550P x 2/Chromecast Audio.
    2.0 ch Living Room: Rotel RX-1052/Emotiva DC-1/Klipsch RF-7 III/Sony ES BDP/LG 65" LED.
    2.0 ch Semi-portable: Klipsch Powergate/NHT SB3/Chromecast Audio.
    Kitchen: Sonos Play5.
  • stone of tone
    stone of tone Posts: 78
    edited February 2010
    Thanks vc69 for the point to this thread. How did it go? I love my LS90's and would go this same route to keep them.
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  • vc69
    vc69 Posts: 2,500
    edited March 2010
    adam2434 wrote: »
    Yes, please report back.

    As a side note - was the 7010 a stock driver in a different speaker of the same era - perhaps from the original RT series? Or, was it created specifically to be a replacement for the 7100. Just curious if anyone knows.

    I really have no idea. The 7010's look a little different and do not have the "star" looking thing on the voice-coil domes.

    I am actually quite pleased. I honestly have heard no difference.
    -Kevin
    HT: Philips 52PFL7432D 52" LCD 1080p / Onkyo TX-SR 606 / Oppo BDP-83 SE / Comcast cable. (all HDMI)B&W 801 - Front, Polk CS350 LS - Center, Polk LS90 - Rear
    2 Channel:
    Oppo BDP-83 SE
    Squeezebox Touch
    Muscial Fidelity M1 DAC
    VTL 2.5
    McIntosh 2205 (refurbed)
    B&W 801's
    Transparent IC's
  • shaironbob
    shaironbob Posts: 7
    I also have one that has failed. It appears to be glued in. I'm unable to get it out. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
  • ken brydson
    ken brydson Posts: 8,752
    shaironbob wrote: »
    I also have one that has failed. It appears to be glued in. I'm unable to get it out. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

    Shouldn't be glued in. If original, they've been in there a long time. Might need a little coaxing with a putty knife.

    Good luck and welcome to CP.