Black Anthem Pre 1L

thsmith
thsmith Posts: 6,082
edited January 2010 in For Sale (FS) Classifieds
I bought this pre off the original owner at Audiogon in late November 2009 to see if I would like a tube pre. Here’s the link I posted when I bought it http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=91999&highlight=Anthem . I like having a tube pre so much I sold my Adcom GFP-750 and ready to upgrade to pre that has HT bypass and a remote which is another Anthem, Pre 2L.

The condition is very good with exception of a couple of scratches on the front bottom left side. Pretty faint but visible up close (>12 inches) and the pics make them look worse than they are and could easy be touched up.

I did upgrade the output caps (2) to V-Cap OIMPs which was a nice upgrade. In my discussions with Chris Venhaus (V-cap owner) he recommended to replace the caps with 1uf vs the 2uf that originally came in the Pre since my AMPs input impedance was 100Kohms. He said as long as the new buyers AMP had input impedance higher than 40Kohms the 1uf is good to go. The 1.0 uf OIMP V-caps are $47 a piece and well worth the $100 upgrade.

I will include the original 2uf REL caps that came with the Pre in case the new owner has an AMP with input impedance lower than 40Kohms or in case they sell it and the new owner needs to 2uf caps.

I have the original Sovtek tubes that came with the Pre when new and will be included in the sell as well as the stock power cord. I do not have the manual but here is the link http://www.anthemav.com/OldSitev1/pdf/pre1l.pdf
I do recommend upgrading the tubes from the stock Sovtek for a wider soundstage and richer sound, The Sovteks sound thin to me but they do sound good enough to not be in a rush to roll tubes. I am currently using RCA (Siemens) 6922 tubes which are my favorites and plan to install them in the Anthem Pre 2L.

I do have a matched quad of 6DJ8 I bought from Jesse Brent with low hours(<100 hours) I will consider selling them for $140 ($85 a pair from Jesse) to whoever buys this pre. Description from Jesse’s site “New Old Stock Original box and white box. These are identical to the Bugle Boy logo tubes, most 1960s "white label" type. Some are made for Hewlett-Packard, Dario Miniwatt, and some for DuMont. All made in the same Heerlen, Holland factory as the famous Bugle Boys! Carefully hand selected and matched. Bugle Boy tubes at big savings!”

Audiogon average bluebook is $463 for the Anthem Pre 1L
Sale price with V-caps $325 plus shipping and PP if used.

The Pre 1L will be double boxed and insured ideally using Fedex unless the buyer prefers another shipper. My guess is $25 would cover shipping.

Stereophile review
http://www.anthemav.com/OldSitev1/review/amp1.html

Soundstage Review
http://www.soundstage.com/das_pram.htm
Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
Cables: Mits S3 IC and Spk cables| PS Audio PCs
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  • Pycroft
    Pycroft Posts: 1,960
    edited January 2010
    Super damn...I wish :) Good luck with the sale!

    James
    2 Channel/HT:
    Sony SS-M9 P's (ES version)
    Sony SS-M1CN Center Channel
    Polk RT800 Surround Speakers
    Odyssey Stratos Dual Mono Amplifiers
    TAD 150 Signature Tube Preamp
    Harman Kardon HK354
    Sony SACD Player
  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited January 2010
    One more thing, based upon the reviews the Headphone output is quite nice, no personal experience.
    Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
    Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
    Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
    Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
    Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
    Cables: Mits S3 IC and Spk cables| PS Audio PCs
  • Pycroft
    Pycroft Posts: 1,960
    edited January 2010
    I'm going to count my pennies...not sure if I can come up with it :(
    2 Channel/HT:
    Sony SS-M9 P's (ES version)
    Sony SS-M1CN Center Channel
    Polk RT800 Surround Speakers
    Odyssey Stratos Dual Mono Amplifiers
    TAD 150 Signature Tube Preamp
    Harman Kardon HK354
    Sony SACD Player
  • dagame27
    dagame27 Posts: 591
    edited January 2010
    Anthem makes great Pre's. I am sure that whoever buys this will be happy. Good luck with the sale.
    ChrisIntegrated Amp: Cary SI-300D Processor: Marantz SR7012 Streaming: Bluesound Node 2I 4K Bluray: Panasonic UB820Mains: Von Schweikert VR2Center: Von Schweikert LCR15 Subs: 2 SVS Sb13 Ultra (HT Only) Analysis Plus Cables
  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited January 2010
    Agree dagame27. I am loving the PRE 2L, I see you have one. Maybe I should give the AMperex another listen. I noticed my Pre 2L has Solen out put caps.
    Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
    Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
    Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
    Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
    Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
    Cables: Mits S3 IC and Spk cables| PS Audio PCs
  • Pycroft
    Pycroft Posts: 1,960
    edited January 2010
    PM Sent
    2 Channel/HT:
    Sony SS-M9 P's (ES version)
    Sony SS-M1CN Center Channel
    Polk RT800 Surround Speakers
    Odyssey Stratos Dual Mono Amplifiers
    TAD 150 Signature Tube Preamp
    Harman Kardon HK354
    Sony SACD Player
  • HB27
    HB27 Posts: 1,518
    edited January 2010
  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited January 2010
    PM's replied
    Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
    Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
    Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
    Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
    Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
    Cables: Mits S3 IC and Spk cables| PS Audio PCs
  • NJPOLKER
    NJPOLKER Posts: 3,474
    edited January 2010
    Good move and at that price you can't go wrong.
    I love my Anthem Pre-2L and you are going to really like yours too!
  • NJPOLKER
    NJPOLKER Posts: 3,474
    edited January 2010
    thsmith wrote: »
    Agree dagame27. I am loving the PRE 2L, I see you have one. Maybe I should give the AMperex another listen. I noticed my Pre 2L has Solen out put caps.

    They gotta go immediately. :eek:
  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited January 2010
    NJPOLKER wrote: »
    They gotta go immediately. :eek:

    Funny you say that, I was PMing with someone and said the same thing.

    I am actually finding the remote to work quite well, nothing like people describe in their reviews.
    Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
    Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
    Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
    Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
    Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
    Cables: Mits S3 IC and Spk cables| PS Audio PCs
  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited January 2010
    Pre is still available.
    Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
    Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
    Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
    Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
    Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
    Cables: Mits S3 IC and Spk cables| PS Audio PCs
  • NJPOLKER
    NJPOLKER Posts: 3,474
    edited January 2010
    My remote is OK

    It does leave a lot to be desired but does serve its purpose.
  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited January 2010
    What gain level is yours set to? Mine is 8db, I suspect if I raise the gain the remote will become less controllable for volume.

    As cazy as it sounds I might try V-Cap TFTFs.
    Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
    Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
    Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
    Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
    Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
    Cables: Mits S3 IC and Spk cables| PS Audio PCs
  • NJPOLKER
    NJPOLKER Posts: 3,474
    edited January 2010
    8db also

    Nothing sounds crazy to me any more.

    Can you get the TFTF's in 2uF?
  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited January 2010
    NJPOLKER wrote: »
    8db also

    Nothing sounds crazy to me any more.

    Can you get the TFTF's in 2uF?
    Yes: http://www.v-cap.com/tefloncapacitors.html
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
  • NJPOLKER
    NJPOLKER Posts: 3,474
    edited January 2010
    Thanks Face

    You really need to get those and they are affordable too! Depending on how many you buy of course. Hell $600. + for a pair, why not?
  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited January 2010
    I've been looking into them for my pre, fortunately the largest value I need is 1uf.
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited January 2010
    :confused:
    NJPOLKER wrote: »
    8db also

    Nothing sounds crazy to me any more.

    Can you get the TFTF's in 2uF?

    Yes but I will go with 1uf as recommended by Chris since my Anthem AMp 1 input impedance is 100kohms.

    Anthem used 2uf since they would not know what amp the consumer would use. Since I know that I can use a cap that is less in the output.

    Ends up being $190 X 2 which why I am still on the fence. What has me thinking this is a friend just bought a Primaluma Prologue 3 with them and some nothing fancy tubes and I was blown away how good the pre sounded.

    Nothing but praise on the TFTFs and they win every cap shootout I have read but still $380 to do my Pre :confused::eek::confused:
    Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
    Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
    Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
    Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
    Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
    Cables: Mits S3 IC and Spk cables| PS Audio PCs
  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited January 2010
    Pre still available
    Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
    Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
    Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
    Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
    Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
    Cables: Mits S3 IC and Spk cables| PS Audio PCs
  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited January 2010
    Received PM requesting how much life is left in the Sovteks.

    I have tested all 4 on my Sencore TC -142

    All passed gas leak and short test.

    All four read 100/100

    The orignal owner said pre was lightly used and had never used any tube other that what came with the Pre.

    These tubes measure as new.
    Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
    Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
    Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
    Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
    Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
    Cables: Mits S3 IC and Spk cables| PS Audio PCs
  • daboyz
    daboyz Posts: 5,207
    edited January 2010
  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited January 2010
    PM replied
    Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
    Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
    Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
    Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
    Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
    Cables: Mits S3 IC and Spk cables| PS Audio PCs
  • Dawgfish
    Dawgfish Posts: 2,554
    edited January 2010
  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited January 2010
    I would think that this would be a great way to move into a tubed pre,The VH caps are not cheap either,, good luck with the sale,,I'm surprised that it's still here.
    JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut)
  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited January 2010
    Dawgfish wrote: »
    Pm Sent

    PM replied
    Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
    Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
    Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
    Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
    Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
    Cables: Mits S3 IC and Spk cables| PS Audio PCs
  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited January 2010
    Thank George
    Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
    Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
    Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
    Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
    Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
    Cables: Mits S3 IC and Spk cables| PS Audio PCs
  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited January 2010
    Sold !
    Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
    Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
    Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
    Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
    Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
    Cables: Mits S3 IC and Spk cables| PS Audio PCs
  • Pycroft
    Pycroft Posts: 1,960
    edited January 2010
    Congrats...wish I had the money for it :)
    2 Channel/HT:
    Sony SS-M9 P's (ES version)
    Sony SS-M1CN Center Channel
    Polk RT800 Surround Speakers
    Odyssey Stratos Dual Mono Amplifiers
    TAD 150 Signature Tube Preamp
    Harman Kardon HK354
    Sony SACD Player
  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited January 2010
    Did you get it Dave?
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