only tweak one thing at a time

superjunior

so I installed my speaker spikes, my new set of old mit t3s (brand new but old), and replaced the binding post plates with jumpers - all at the same time. fired up the system and let the speakers open up a bit. the sound sure is different all right - freeking horrible! the slamming base is gone, the mids and highs are harsh and detail is gone. I tried playing with the eq in the avr but I know thats got nothing to do with it. SO, I'm gonna rule the speaker spikes out - thats not the problem. the speaker cables are brand new mit terminator 3 and I have mit avt3 ics. I emailed gavin at mit to ask if avt3 would match with old t3s, he replied and said he sent the question to someone else there who knew more about old cables but I haven't heard back, so I hooked em up. I'm thinking (hoping) the speaker cables just need to burn in. or they might not match well with the avt3s, I don't know. I used the 14g speaker wire that ran my mains for a pair of jumpers. this is why never to tweak more than one thing at a time, and I knew better dammit any thoughts?

hearingimpared

Unfortunately no more than you've already expressed. YOu are right however it is not the spikes.

concealer404

I'd say wait to make a decision until everything is burned in. But yeah... i hear you.

superjunior

anyone that saise cables don't matter needs to have their head examined!

Ern Dog

Try putting your old speaker cables back in. If you know for sure it is the speaker cables, then you definitely need to let them break in before making any decisions.

superjunior

Ern Dog wrote: »

Try putting your old speaker cables back in. If you know for sure it is the speaker cables, then you definitely need to let them break in before making any decisions.

yeah, that would probably be the fastest way to pinpoint the issue

jz0h4d

What in the world do you think has to "burn in" in a cable?

ben62670

The cable. As you move up to better equipment you will realize that good cables need to burn in.

jz0h4d

Nonsence.

superjunior

jz0h4d wrote: »

Nonsence.

really? please explain :rolleyes:

Zitro

Oh boy, here we go lol

Paden501

Time to get a Snickers. This one's not going anywhere for a while

hearingimpared

Don't worry guys we go through this every year around this time. It'll calm down and they will go away. Just don't feed into it.

superjunior

hearingimpared wrote: »

Don't worry guys we go through this every year around this time. It'll calm down and they will go away. Just don't feed into it.

your right Joe, wish I could retract my last post as to not feed the fuel for troll consumption.

jimmydep

Ern Dog wrote: »

Try putting your old speaker cables back in. If you know for sure it is the speaker cables, then you definitely need to let them break in before making any decisions.

I agree with Ern dog.....start from scratch and make one change at a time.

concealer404

baleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeted!

SolidSqual

Hey Superjunior, I had the exact same experience with a full set of MIT Shotgun S3s. Break-in is definitely a factor. Just persevere and keep your old cables. If the sound doesn't exceed the performance of your old cables, just put the old ones back where they belong.

packetjones

I just did multiple tweaks as well. I installed spikes and jumpers and could tell a difference for sure. I wish i would have done them one tweak at a time so i would know which one made the bigger difference. I would say that the new speaker cables are the culprit for the sound issues you are having. There is no way that the spikes would do it and the jumper would ave to be better than that plates that come stock. Give it some time and see if it gets better. if not you can always go back.

superjunior

thanks fellas. I'm gonna let these cables break in for at least a week before I do anything, I'm pretty darn sure thats the issue so I'll wait it out and see

Toolfan66

I started with brand new MIT speaker cables ,IC's, modded crossovers, RDO-198 tweeters, drivers dynamated and mortited all at one time. IMO the MIT"s take some time breaking in.

The only tweek I did about 20 days later was put the spikes on.No complants here, I loved hearing everything open up as time went on.

thsmith

SupperJ, I am in the camp of cables burning in as well as tubes, caps what have you.

When I put MITs in my system they immediately sounded better than what I has already and only got better. I have found this to be true in must cases with most things, si IMO unless your new cables are a step dowen or defective cable burn in will not fix your problem.

Since you touched the binding post and jumpers. I would double check my work for bad solder, shorts, opens or misplacement of leads. I would also go back to old jumpers.

superjunior

thsmith wrote: »

SupperJ, I am in the camp of cables burning in as well as tubes, caps what have you.

When I put MITs in my system they immediately sounded better than what I has already and only got better. I have found this to be true in must cases with most things, si IMO unless your new cables are a step dowen or defective cable burn in will not fix your problem.

Since you touched the binding post and jumpers. I would double check my work for bad solder, shorts, opens or misplacement of leads. I would also go back to old jumpers.

I went from reg 14g wire from best buy to the mits. I sappose I could throw on the old binding post plates and determine where the problem is that much faster. can't do it now though, got people coming over to watch football

thsmith

When I went from AQ T4 to Mit S3 SHotguns the not yet burned in MITs sounded better immediately and only got better.

BIZILL

jz0h4d wrote: »

Nonsence.

At least spell it correctly.

hearingimpared

BIZILL wrote: »

At least spell it correctly.

Really, if you're going to troll atleast look like there is some intelligence involved.

superjunior

over the course of this last week while watching tv and movies I've noticed my front soundstage just sounding better and better. I popped in a tool cd last night and I just couldn't beleive my ears! all I can say is wow! mids and highs are more clear and detailed than ever, base is punching me in the chest. I can't wait to hear what it sounds like in another week :D:D

heiney9

superjunior wrote: »

thanks fellas. I'm gonna let these cables break in for at least a week before I do anything, I'm pretty darn sure thats the issue so I'll wait it out and see

I just recently bought NOS pair of MIT Terminator 2 I/C's for my office rig they sounded horrible when I first hooked them up compared to my Signal Cables......after about a week or two of break-in they sound much better. My other MIT's in the main rig were used and already broken in. Let them break in and if you still don't feel they make a positive difference, MIT's hold their value so you can flip them. But give 'em a chance.

H9

superjunior

beleive me h-9, I am convinced. I'm floored by the difference after just one week

zingo

superjunior wrote: »

really? please explain :rolleyes:

leroyjr1

I went from Monster wires to MIT AVT3's to MIT shotgun s3's and didn't notices a big difference right away. After weeks of breaking them in the sound grew on me and I didn't notice the HUGE difference until I put my Monsters back in and it was a night and day difference.

superjunior

leroyjr1 wrote: »

I went from Monster wires to MIT AVT3's to MIT shotgun s3's and didn't notices a big difference right away. After weeks of breaking them in the sound grew on me and I didn't notice the HUGE difference until I put my Monsters back in and it was a night and day difference.

since the original speaker cables were ran underneeth the carpet I still have them coiled up behind the speakers. It will be interesting to do a side by side comparison once the mits are fully broke in