Good amp for LSi9 2 channel

ls7z06
ls7z06 Posts: 95
edited January 2010 in Electronics
Currently have a nice little 2 channel stereo set up using an Emo UPA-2 185W into 4 ohms. Sounds fine. BUT.... considering getting an upgraded amp to see if it can be better. Would like to stay under $1000. Any suggestions?
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  • Sherardp
    Sherardp Posts: 8,038
    edited January 2010
    See the flea market for those Outlaw Audio Mono blocks. Very nice amps, and should hold you over for some time.
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  • danz1906
    danz1906 Posts: 5,144
    edited January 2010
    Adcom555..........Aragon 8008BB
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  • Jetmaker737
    Jetmaker737 Posts: 1,072
    edited January 2010
    danz1906 wrote: »
    Adcom555..........Aragon 8008BB

    I have the Aragon powering my LSi-15's. It's awesome! It replaced an EMO RPA-2 that did a satisfactory job, but the Aragon eclipses it completely. They can be picked up on Audiogon for under $1K.

    From what I understand the LSi-9's dip into even lower impedances than the 15's. So you want a lot of current capabilty. The UPA-2 won't suffice.
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  • Slinger182
    Slinger182 Posts: 512
    edited January 2010
    http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?ampstran&1269368081&/Aragon-8008BB-
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited January 2010
    http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?ampstran&1269219837&/Wyred-4-sound-ST-250-125-watts
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,249
    edited January 2010
    Sherardp wrote: »
    See the flea market for those Outlaw Audio Mono blocks. Very nice amps, and should hold you over for some time.

    That would be a lateral move. Outlaw = Emotiva; Emotiva = Outlaw

    H9
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  • fossy
    fossy Posts: 1,378
    edited January 2010
    Don't forget to look at used Parasound.
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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited January 2010
    Parasound 1500A, or http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?ampstran&1267217708&/Parasound-2250-.
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  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited January 2010
    Think outside the box.


    http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?ampstran&1269382559&/Mccormack-Dna-1-Powe-Drive.-Ballsy

    http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?ampstran&1269221343&/Threshold-Stasis-3-150-wpc-stereo-amp

    http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?ampstran&1269112295&/BAT-VK-200

    http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?ampstran&1269058747&/Threshold-S/200

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  • Jetmaker737
    Jetmaker737 Posts: 1,072
    edited January 2010
    Ricardo wrote: »
    Think outside the box.


    http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?ampstran&1269382559&/Mccormack-Dna-1-Powe-Drive.-Ballsy

    That's an amp I really had my eye on before getting the Arargon. They don't come up that often either. That price is well below blue book too.
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  • dorourke07
    dorourke07 Posts: 298
    edited January 2010
    fossy wrote: »
    Don't forget to look at used Parasound.

    +1 on parasound. works well with my LSI9's.
    Mains - LSi9's
    Center - LSiC
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  • Amherst
    Amherst Posts: 695
    edited January 2010
    Face wrote: »
    http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?ampstran&1269219837&/Wyred-4-sound-ST-250-125-watts

    Those Wyred amps sound very interesting spec wise. Don't see any single monoblock or three channel offering for HT.

    Nice Choice!:cool:
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited January 2010
    W4S has monoblocks all the way to 7 channel amps available.
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
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  • LuSh
    LuSh Posts: 887
    edited January 2010
    Why Change your amp? You have many other short comings before the amp. I wouldn't change your amp. The WPC is meaningless at best. Think source and pre, a 70wpc integrated would probably be an upgrade.
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,547
    edited January 2010
    The Sunfire Stereo Grand should not be overlooked. It will also allow for using voltage source for midbass and current source for the highs, the latter offering a more "tube-like" sound
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited January 2010
    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    The Sunfire Stereo Grand should not be overlooked. It will also allow for using voltage source for midbass and current source for the highs, the latter offering a more "tube-like" sound
    John, he said he's looking for an upgrade. :D
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,547
    edited January 2010
    Face wrote: »
    John, he said he's looking for an upgrade. :D

    Sunfires are the BEST amp on planet earth... in fact GOD himself could not build a better one! How dare you bash on Sunfire. Don't be all butt-hurt just because I was smart enough to buy great gear used for 1/4th the price of an EMO new and have better gear than anyone else on the planet. :):)j/k...:p:D:D





    I am hopeful that one day I will have the big Mcintosh tubers in my stack of stuff...

    The thing with this hobby is that there is always something better out there. The catch is and always will be SYNERGY!!! I have heard 50k rigs that sounded pretty good and 15k rigs that sounded simply AMAZING. It all comes down to what works well together and what sounds blissful to you.:cool:
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,547
    edited January 2010
    xcapri79 wrote: »
    God has His angels that sing to Him. He doesn't need an amp.
    He is also everywhere so He can hear whatever He chooses to.
    have you still not learned to spot sarcasm?
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  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited January 2010
    Hell, i thought i was at work, not church. WTF did i do wrong here?
    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,547
    edited January 2010
    xcapri79 wrote: »
    You obviously haven't. Calm down it is Sunday.

    You are telling ME to calm down? WTF dude? I never tell YOU to calm down!:mad:


    Ohhhh right it IS Sunday. This is the day my VIKINGS are gonna beat the saints. No:D wonder I am so hyped up!:D
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  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited January 2010
    xcapri79 wrote: »
    You obviously haven't. Calm down it is Sunday.


    I guess He works in mysterious ways!

    Then tell him to get me outta here. :p
    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,547
    edited January 2010
    xcapri79 wrote: »
    In the mean time, I'm going to listen to some good music on my LSi9's powered by a UPA-2.
    Certainly not made in heaven, but good enough for me.
    I bet it sounds like...






    HELL:D
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  • markmarc
    markmarc Posts: 2,309
    edited January 2010
    FYI:
    Danny Richie did some measurements of the LSi9, his findings are quite interesting:
    "My biggest concern with it was the really low impedance. It dropped to 2.47 ohms at the tuning frequency (about 60Hz), and was 3.64 ohms at 192Hz."
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  • ls7z06
    ls7z06 Posts: 95
    edited January 2010
    Thanks for all of the suggestions. I am starting to zero in on a Parasound Halo A23. Does anybody have that amp driving their LSI9's that could comment? Thanks again.
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  • LuSh
    LuSh Posts: 887
    edited January 2010
    Buy a used Krell, SimAudio or Classe integrated amplifier and enjoy the better sound...
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,547
    edited January 2010
    ls7z06 wrote: »
    Thanks for all of the suggestions. I am starting to zero in on a Parasound Halo A23. Does anybody have that amp driving their LSI9's that could comment? Thanks again.

    The Parasound is a very good choice.
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  • Jetmaker737
    Jetmaker737 Posts: 1,072
    edited January 2010
    ls7z06 wrote: »
    Thanks for all of the suggestions. I am starting to zero in on a Parasound Halo A23. Does anybody have that amp driving their LSI9's that could comment? Thanks again.

    You definitely want comments on this because by specs I'd choose the A21 over the A23 for the LSi's.
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited January 2010
    I would consider something that doubles down at 4ohms and is 2ohm stable.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,249
    edited January 2010
    Jetmaker737 wrote: »
    You definitely want comments on this because by specs I'd choose the A21 over the A23 for the LSi's.

    Specs really mean nothing.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Puritan Audio PSM136 Pwr Condtioner & Classic PC's | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited January 2010
    LuSh wrote: »
    Why Change your amp? You have many other short comings before the amp. I wouldn't change your amp. The WPC is meaningless at best. Think source and pre, a 70wpc integrated would probably be an upgrade.

    Though I agree WPC is not what determines how good/bad an amp is, for a speaker like the LSi9 you do need a decent amount of watts to keep up with the low impedance. You need that headroom or your dynamics will be very limited.
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