My 1C's FINALLY

Pycroft
Pycroft Posts: 1,960
edited May 2010 in Vintage Speakers
Hi all...

Here are some pics with my 1C's...cosmetically, not good shape...they sound fantastic though :) Setup is in my signature. Any way to touch up the cabinets? I will post later, when I have more time, their position in the room so people can hopefully comment on the setup. Rug is being installed on Saturday, so I'll have a nicer setup then.

James
2 Channel/HT:
Sony SS-M9 P's (ES version)
Sony SS-M1CN Center Channel
Polk RT800 Surround Speakers
Odyssey Stratos Dual Mono Amplifiers
TAD 150 Signature Tube Preamp
Harman Kardon HK354
Sony SACD Player
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited January 2010
    Excellent . . . when do the inevitable upgrades start?:D
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  • Pycroft
    Pycroft Posts: 1,960
    edited January 2010
    More pictures:
    2 Channel/HT:
    Sony SS-M9 P's (ES version)
    Sony SS-M1CN Center Channel
    Polk RT800 Surround Speakers
    Odyssey Stratos Dual Mono Amplifiers
    TAD 150 Signature Tube Preamp
    Harman Kardon HK354
    Sony SACD Player
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  • Pycroft
    Pycroft Posts: 1,960
    edited January 2010
    As you can see...the fronts look very nice...the tops and sides, and even the back are scratched, or worse. The bottom, the cork underneath is in bad shape also. Will probably put them on some granite...perhaps hack off the bottom cork? Woudl love to hear comments ... and no upgrades as of now ... I like how they sound!
    2 Channel/HT:
    Sony SS-M9 P's (ES version)
    Sony SS-M1CN Center Channel
    Polk RT800 Surround Speakers
    Odyssey Stratos Dual Mono Amplifiers
    TAD 150 Signature Tube Preamp
    Harman Kardon HK354
    Sony SACD Player
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  • Paden501
    Paden501 Posts: 286
    edited January 2010
    nice! They look like they could use a refinish, otherwise nice looking speakers.
    ~Matt
    My System

    Front L/R: Definitive BP10Bs
    Surrounds -Polk Audio Monitor 4As
    Preamp: B&K Reference 20
    CD: Jolida JD100a
    L/R Amp: Carver TFM-24
    Turntable: Pioneer PL-516 W/ Shure M97xe
    TV: Sony 52" XBR9
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  • Fongolio
    Fongolio Posts: 3,516
    edited January 2010
    Isn't there a law in New Jersey to prevent that kind of abuse to a fine set of speakers? If not there should be. Well thank God they sound good still. Congrats.

    Kelvin
    SDA-1C (full mods)
    Carver TFM-55
    NAD 1130 Pre-amp
    Rega Planar 3 TT/Shelter 501 MkII
    The Clamp
    Revox A77 Mk IV Dolby reel to reel
    Thorens TD160/Mission 774 arm/Stanton 881S Shibata
    Nakamichi CR7 Cassette Deck
    Rotel RCD-855 with modified tube output stage
    Cambridge Audio DACmagic Plus
    ADC Soundshaper 3 EQ
    Ben's IC's
    Nitty Gritty 1.5FI RCM
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  • Pycroft
    Pycroft Posts: 1,960
    edited January 2010
    I bought them from someone in PA...I guess there are no laws there :) How do I refinish speakers? I don't believe these are real wood...they are 1C studio versions.
    2 Channel/HT:
    Sony SS-M9 P's (ES version)
    Sony SS-M1CN Center Channel
    Polk RT800 Surround Speakers
    Odyssey Stratos Dual Mono Amplifiers
    TAD 150 Signature Tube Preamp
    Harman Kardon HK354
    Sony SACD Player
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  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited January 2010
    Yes those are studios. Touch up with a sharpie or some black touch up paint if it bothers you.

    If you know someone with a Harley that uses a product call Pig Spit, give them a good wipe down and you will be shocked at how much blacker and deeper the black will look.

    What do you mean by Cork ? I had 1C studios and no of no cork on them.
    Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
    Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
    Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
    Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
    Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
    Cables: Mits S3 IC and Spk cables| PS Audio PCs
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited January 2010
    Pycroft wrote: »
    As you can see...the fronts look very nice...the tops and sides, and even the back are scratched, or worse. The bottom, the cork underneath is in bad shape also. Will probably put them on some granite...perhaps hack off the bottom cork? Woudl love to hear comments ... and no upgrades as of now ... I like how they sound!

    Spike those bad boys . . . you won't believe the improvement in bass and imaging.

    https://myesound.com/Points_n_pads.html
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited January 2010
    Pycroft wrote: »
    As you can see...the fronts look very nice...the tops and sides, and even the back are scratched, or worse. The bottom, the cork underneath is in bad shape also. Will probably put them on some granite...perhaps hack off the bottom cork? Woudl love to hear comments ... and no upgrades as of now ... I like how they sound!

    You'll be bowled over after you do the crossovers, upgrade the tweeter, and Dynamat the midwoofers and passive radiators. You think they sound good now . . . you ain't heard notin' yet!
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  • vc69
    vc69 Posts: 2,500
    edited January 2010
    I was going so suggest a sharpie touch up job too. Pig Spit is good stuff.

    Nice score Pycroft.
    -Kevin
    HT: Philips 52PFL7432D 52" LCD 1080p / Onkyo TX-SR 606 / Oppo BDP-83 SE / Comcast cable. (all HDMI)B&W 801 - Front, Polk CS350 LS - Center, Polk LS90 - Rear
    2 Channel:
    Oppo BDP-83 SE
    Squeezebox Touch
    Muscial Fidelity M1 DAC
    VTL 2.5
    McIntosh 2205 (refurbed)
    B&W 801's
    Transparent IC's
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  • Pycroft
    Pycroft Posts: 1,960
    edited January 2010
    Conradicles had in his 'system showcase' 1C's, and he said they got a custom paint-job by someone. They don't even look like the same cabinets. I think they look fantastic. Anyone know how to do that. To be honest, it's not super important, because they're in the basement, where my 'man' area is, not in a living room or something, but it would still be nice to have them look respectable.

    Cork isn't the right word. This is a copy/paste job from another user in a thread on 1C's: "Quote:
    My idea for the base of the 1C Studio was to remove off the square base and replace it with two pieces of flat 3/4" MDF that are sandwiched together (glued and screwed). Round the corners and bottom edges a bit, then Primer and spray pain them black, then screw to the bottom of the cabinet and mount the spikes into the new base".

    It's a rather thin base that goes around the bottom of the speaker, but is thin. I will take a picture of it. Another user removed his and put it on granite (Want to try this, perhaps without removing the actual base).

    Thanks for the comments, keep em coming :)
    2 Channel/HT:
    Sony SS-M9 P's (ES version)
    Sony SS-M1CN Center Channel
    Polk RT800 Surround Speakers
    Odyssey Stratos Dual Mono Amplifiers
    TAD 150 Signature Tube Preamp
    Harman Kardon HK354
    Sony SACD Player
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,336
    edited January 2010
    The cabinets are the same the outside shell anyway. 1 has the risers like yours the other has the caps top and bottom with the grill cloth on the sides. the main cabinet for the drivers and tweeters are the same though.
    Polk Audio SDA 2.3tl Fully Hot Rodded. 😎

    SVS SB16 X2

    Cary SLP-05/Ultimate Upgrade.
    Cary SA-500.1 ES Amps
    Cary DMS 800PV Network
    OPPO UDP 205/ModWright Modification
    VPI Scout TT / Dynavector 20x2
    Jolida JD9 Fully Modified

    VPI MW-1 Cyclone RCM

    MIT Shotgun 3 cables throughout / Except TT, and PC’s
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  • Conradicles
    Conradicles Posts: 6,138
    edited January 2010
    Here would be my suggestions to you based on the other SDA's I have seen refinished by other polkies on this site:
    You could...
    Just apply new black vinyl veneer to the tops and sides. It is easier than you think and not too expensive.

    Nikolas812 painted my top and bottom caps, but it was not cheap. He does a fantastic job.

    Enjoy and keep us updated.
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  • Conradicles
    Conradicles Posts: 6,138
    edited January 2010
    1st try the Pig Spit, you may be suprised.

    I bought some Klipsch KG2's a couple months ago that were black and scratched up a little. With something similar to the Pig Spit, they looked very nice. I was shocked!
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  • Conradicles
    Conradicles Posts: 6,138
    edited January 2010
    One more thing James...take your time on them. I did mine in steps so I did not have to shell out all the cash at once.
    Don't get me wrong, if you have the money by all means go all out!
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  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited January 2010
    I am supprised others have tried Pig Spit. I mentioned it over a year ago and got various comments but none where people have used it.
    Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
    Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
    Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
    Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
    Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
    Cables: Mits S3 IC and Spk cables| PS Audio PCs
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  • chandler9a
    chandler9a Posts: 878
    edited January 2010
    Awesome score! can't wait to see the upgrades when they happen.

    Enjoy!
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  • Hamatym
    Hamatym Posts: 269
    edited January 2010
    Nice info, one question to all- What are the final spec ratings for SDA-1C's? I have literature that says they are 10-750W per channel and others that list them as 50-500W. I understand they fall into the 6 ohm rating and the studio and wood versions are the same speaker inside. Just really curious
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  • kcoc321
    kcoc321 Posts: 1,788
    edited January 2010
    thsmith wrote: »
    .......a product call Pig Spit, give them a good wipe down and you will be shocked at how much blacker and deeper the black will look.

    okay, so what exactly is "Pig Spit" and were do you buy it? Stain, paint? Both? Other? Sounds like a great 'restoration aide' for black speakers. Any long term detrimental effects?

    Just found it....didn't actually think it would be called"PigSpit" but yep it is....lol
    (you know like q-tip or band aid, is a generic term now)

    http://www.pigspit.com/

    do you recommend 'Fast detail' or 'Original'?
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited January 2010
    kcoc321 wrote: »
    okay, so what exactly is "Pig Spit" and were do you buy it? Stain, paint? Both? Other? Sounds like a great 'restoration aide' for black speakers. Any long term detrimental effects?

    http://lmgtfy.com/?q=pig+spit
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,217
    edited January 2010
    Hamatym wrote: »
    Nice info, one question to all- What are the final spec ratings for SDA-1C's? I have literature that says they are 10-750W per channel and others that list them as 50-500W. I understand they fall into the 6 ohm rating and the studio and wood versions are the same speaker inside. Just really curious


    Perhaps this will give you some details. Really doesn't matter unless you're running a 5 wpc flea amp.

    This weekend I'll be hooking my 1C's up to my 15wpc 6V6 based tube integrated. I have no doubt it won't be an issue. I'm sure it won't win an SPL contests but who cares.

    http://www.polksda.com/sda1creview.shtml

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • Hamatym
    Hamatym Posts: 269
    edited January 2010
    Interesting! Thanks for the link H9
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  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited January 2010
    kcoc321 wrote: »
    do you recommend 'Fast detail' or 'Original'?

    Orignal is the only I have ever used. Not for wood but vinyl and such material.
    Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
    Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
    Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
    Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
    Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
    Cables: Mits S3 IC and Spk cables| PS Audio PCs
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  • wayne3burk
    wayne3burk Posts: 939
    edited May 2010
    heiney9 wrote: »
    Perhaps this will give you some details. Really doesn't matter unless you're running a 5 wpc flea amp.

    This weekend I'll be hooking my 1C's up to my 15wpc 6V6 based tube integrated. I have no doubt it won't be an issue. I'm sure it won't win an SPL contests but who cares.

    http://www.polksda.com/sda1creview.shtml

    H9

    So Heiney....

    How do your SDA 1Cs sound with your 6V6 based tube amp?

    Enquiring minds need to know.

    Thanks,
    Wayne
    Yamaha RX-V2700, EMI 711As (front), RCA K-16 (rear), Magnavox Console (Center & TV Stand), Sony SMP-N200 media streamer, Dual 1249 TT =--- Sharp Aquas 60" LCD tellie
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  • bigaltx24
    bigaltx24 Posts: 141
    edited May 2010
    The best thing I've found for black vinyl cabs is plain old black shoe polish. the stuff will work wonders on scratched cabs.
    Denon PMA-900V
    Linn Axis with Grado Red
    Cambridge Azur 650C
    Polk SDA-1BTL
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