You want Aerosmith's "Rocks" on SACD? Here's your chance

Danny Tse
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edited February 2010 in Music & Movies
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  • mmadden28
    mmadden28 Posts: 4,283
    edited January 2010
    Small drill hole through jewel case and tray insert on back

    I don't get that--why on earth would anybody do that?
    And why doesn't the seller replace the case?

    Is it really that rare? or is the guy off his rocker? (I'm thinking the latter)
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  • Danny Tse
    Danny Tse Posts: 5,206
    edited January 2010
    mmadden28 wrote: »
    Is it really that rare? or is the guy off his rocker? (I'm thinking the latter)

    It is the only known copy of this album on SACD.
  • headrott
    headrott Posts: 5,496
    edited January 2010
    mmadden28 wrote: »
    I don't get that--why on earth would anybody do that?
    And why doesn't the seller replace the case?

    Is it really that rare? or is the guy off his rocker? (I'm thinking the latter)

    First off, let me say that anyone who pays this amount is insane (even more insane that the guy selling it for that price).

    Typically the reason the drill hole is put into the CD case is because it's a promotional copy of the CD. Ususally, it's throught the SKU though, so I don't know why this has it where it is.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,734
    edited January 2010
    Way cool.
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  • coolsax
    coolsax Posts: 1,824
    edited January 2010
    being as its the only known one in existence I don't blame him for trying to get as much for it as he can..
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  • vmaxer
    vmaxer Posts: 5,117
    edited January 2010
    Lasareath wrote: »
    I have a Client who managed aerosmith for their first 7 or 8 albums, I just emailed him to see if he can get that sacd! LOL

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  • TNRabbit
    TNRabbit Posts: 2,168
    edited January 2010
    Didn't someone on here say they had a SACD copy of "Rocks" about a week ago?? I think the seller is full of ****.
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  • vc69
    vc69 Posts: 2,500
    edited January 2010
    http://www.amazon.com/Rocks-Aerosmith/dp/B00004SGNL/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1263245766&sr=8-1

    I would imagine there are a couple copies floating around. Wish I owned one.
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  • inspiredsports
    inspiredsports Posts: 5,501
    edited January 2010
    I wish even half of the CD's I own were worth as that much each. I'd retire tomorrow! :D
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  • vc69
    vc69 Posts: 2,500
    edited January 2010
    LoL... I have a sneaking suspicion he isn't going to fetch his asking price.
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  • Danny Tse
    Danny Tse Posts: 5,206
    edited January 2010
    I've paid some crazy $$$ for an used CD myself, but....$12.5K for a SACD? I mean, that would be a very good down payment on a new car.
  • inspiredsports
    inspiredsports Posts: 5,501
    edited January 2010
    Maybe they'll play it live for $12.5K at the next PolkFest if we all chip in. :)
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  • vc69
    vc69 Posts: 2,500
    edited January 2010
    I'll bet you could find out their booking price. I feel certain it's a tad higher than 12.5k ;)
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  • inspiredsports
    inspiredsports Posts: 5,501
    edited January 2010
    vc69 wrote: »
    I'll bet you could find out their booking price. I feel certain it's a tad higher than 12.5k ;)

    I know they aren't playing Vegas yet, but they aren't getting any younger.

    Maybe by next PolkFest . . . :)
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,734
    edited January 2010
    vc69 wrote: »
    http://www.amazon.com/Rocks-Aerosmith/dp/B00004SGNL/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1263245766&sr=8-1

    I would imagine there are a couple copies floating around. Wish I owned one.

    Those 163 reviews are for the Redbook version.
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  • wutadumsn23
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    edited January 2010
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  • vc69
    vc69 Posts: 2,500
    edited January 2010
    F1nut wrote: »
    Those 163 reviews are for the Redbook version.

    I was more posting that for the listing saying:

    "This item has been discontinued by the manufacturer."

    They list a SN for the item.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,734
    edited January 2010
    Gotcha.

    IIRC, they also had/have a listing for "In The Court Of The Crimson King" on SACD, which never happened. However, it recently happened on DVD-A, a year after that format died.
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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 25,661
    edited January 2010
    Danny Tse wrote: »
    I've paid some crazy $$$ for an used CD myself, but....$12.5K for a SACD? I mean, that would be a very good down payment on a new car.


    plain ol stereo non the less I could see paying it if it was multi-channel:rolleyes: but not 2ch...ROFLMAO:)
  • inspiredsports
    inspiredsports Posts: 5,501
    edited January 2010
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  • unc2701
    unc2701 Posts: 3,587
    edited January 2010
    I swear I've seen a DVD-A version of this. Which when you consider the source material is going to be tape, there's no benefit to DSD.
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  • mmadden28
    mmadden28 Posts: 4,283
    edited January 2010
    unc2701 wrote: »
    .. Which when you consider the source material is going to be tape, there's no benefit to DSD.

    I don't follow that. Aren't most Master's on tape?
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,734
    edited January 2010
    unc2701 wrote: »
    Which when you consider the source material is going to be tape, there's no benefit to DSD.

    You would be completely wrong on that one.
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  • Danny Tse
    Danny Tse Posts: 5,206
    edited January 2010
    unc2701 wrote: »
    I swear I've seen a DVD-A version of this.

    A Sony title on DVD-A?
  • unc2701
    unc2701 Posts: 3,587
    edited January 2010
    mmadden28 wrote: »
    I don't follow that. Aren't most Master's on tape?
    These days, no. Just about everything is digital.
    F1nut wrote: »
    You would be completely wrong on that one.

    Nice thing about having a friend that owns a studio is that I get to play with a lot of really cool gear and have well-informed opinions. DSD wins hands-down on live recordings that have pretty much zero post-processing. Kinda like live cut vinyl. Outside of that there's pretty much no advantage to DSD vs PCM- and we spent a lot of time playing with it... Including pulling some old recordings off tape. The biggest issue with DSD is that it's a **** to edit: apart from live recordings, most SACD's are recorded in PCM then converted to DSD for mastering, nullifying any advantage of the format.

    Now, your listening tastes could mean that you're hearing the SACD's that are cut live, in which case, yeah they sound better. But for a multitracked rock album, SACD is typically at a disadvantage simply because the studio is going to do all the mixing in PCM then convert to SACD.
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  • unc2701
    unc2701 Posts: 3,587
    edited January 2010
    Danny Tse wrote: »
    A Sony title on DVD-A?

    I'm almost certain I saw it.... gimme a few minutes w/ google.
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,329
    edited January 2010
    I wouldn't pay more then $100 for it. I don't care how rare it is.
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  • fossy
    fossy Posts: 1,378
    edited January 2010
    damn it.... stumped my toe as ran for my cd collection to find .... alas ... I don't have one........IF it's as rare as "he" thinks .....hope he sells it ...... but for 12.5 k ... who knows, he just might . That's pocket change for some..

    cool factor ... way high
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,734
    edited January 2010
    unc2701 wrote: »
    These days, no. Just about everything is digital.



    Nice thing about having a friend that owns a studio is that I get to play with a lot of really cool gear and have well-informed opinions. DSD wins hands-down on live recordings that have pretty much zero post-processing. Kinda like live cut vinyl. Outside of that there's pretty much no advantage to DSD vs PCM- and we spent a lot of time playing with it... Including pulling some old recordings off tape. The biggest issue with DSD is that it's a **** to edit: apart from live recordings, most SACD's are recorded in PCM then converted to DSD for mastering, nullifying any advantage of the format.

    Now, your listening tastes could mean that you're hearing the SACD's that are cut live, in which case, yeah they sound better. But for a multitracked rock album, SACD is typically at a disadvantage simply because the studio is going to do all the mixing in PCM then convert to SACD.

    You're still wrong and I'd be happy to prove it if you're in the 'hood.
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  • unc2701
    unc2701 Posts: 3,587
    edited January 2010
    Don't make it up that way much since my brother moved, but if you're down in Durham and the studio is open, we can play with some gear & you'll see what I mean.

    Actually, I should qualify what I've said- I'm not really talking about DVD-A and SACD, but rather high-res PCM and DSD, in a studio, on a badass system, in a room with damn near perfect acoustics and no discs involved. The implementation of each system's playback probably greatly impacts it's quality, so it could be that they haven't yet built a DVD-A player that can compete with the SACD players on the market.
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