Bob Carver still working?

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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited January 2010
    megasat16 wrote: »
    Some people say MBL to be one of the top ranking in HiFi. But I have no experience with MBL amps so I can't comment whether MBL is top ranking or not.

    But how does it sound compared to SunFire? You have both so you must know what sounds better.

    This is why I'm confused. He said Sunfire and I paraphrase "is the top of the heap."

    Bernal how does the Mac and the MBL fair compared to your Sunfire?
  • thuffman03
    thuffman03 Posts: 1,325
    edited January 2010
    Sunfire/Carver the best? No, but I like the sound and they are affordable and to me sound very nice.

    I am at the point were I don't know if I spend more or buy something better I can hear the difference and if I could I am not sure it would be worth the $$$.
    Sunfire TGP, Sunfire Cinema Grand, Sunfire 300~2 (2), Sunfire True Sub (2),Carver ALS Platinum, Carver AL III, TFM-55, C-19, C-9, TX-8, SDA-490t, SDA-390t
  • Bernal
    Bernal Posts: 991
    edited January 2010
    Are you saying the Sunfire is as good as the MBL? I don't get your remark.:confused:
    I am not saying: It was a question about the comment.
  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited January 2010
    Bernal wrote: »
    I am not saying: It was a question about the comment.

    Let me rephrase my question. Having both the Sunfire and the MBL which sounds better in your experienced opinion?
  • wayne3burk
    wayne3burk Posts: 939
    edited January 2010
    Not to change the subject (much)... but you can pick this up cheap on ebay i think and try it...

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Hughes-AK-100-Sound-Retrieval-System_W0QQitemZ160393640189QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item255834b8fd

    It's a Hughes Sound Retrieval System :D
    Yamaha RX-V2700, EMI 711As (front), RCA K-16 (rear), Magnavox Console (Center & TV Stand), Sony SMP-N200 media streamer, Dual 1249 TT =--- Sharp Aquas 60" LCD tellie
  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,890
    edited January 2010
    ^^^how is this relevant to the thread?
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2800 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD

    “When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson


    How many flies need to be buzzing a dead horse before you guys stop beating it?
  • wayne3burk
    wayne3burk Posts: 939
    edited January 2010
    It's similar to the carver sonic holography unit ... i guess or maybe not
    Yamaha RX-V2700, EMI 711As (front), RCA K-16 (rear), Magnavox Console (Center & TV Stand), Sony SMP-N200 media streamer, Dual 1249 TT =--- Sharp Aquas 60" LCD tellie
  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited January 2010
    I didn't feel like reading the whole ad, what is it?
  • wayne3burk
    wayne3burk Posts: 939
    edited January 2010
    i did a search on the model number... and copy and paste this from audio karma thread

    >>> SDA SRS 1.2 SDA SRS 1.2 is offline
    AK Member

    Join Date: Jun 2005
    Location: Barnwell, SC
    Posts: 451
    I've had mine since new in '90 and use it in my main system (Carver C-16 Preamp, Sunfire Signature 600~Two Amp, Polk SDA SRS 1.2 Speakers) and have found that it tends to spread the soundstage much wider (past the speakers) rather that deeper. It has a feature for mono recordings that gives them an interesting "quasi-stereo" effect. Because of the SDA technology built into the speakers, I keep the 100 on its lowest settings to keep from getting "overkill" on the dimensional effect.
    __________________
    Polk SDA SRS 1.2, Sunfire Signature 600~two, Carver C-16, Carver TX-11b, Marantz 6350Q TT, Teac V-707RX, Marantz 2325, Marantz 5220, Marantz HD-880, Kenwood KR-9600, Pioneer CS-99a, Sansui SP-X9000

    http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=102408

    I've never heard it personally... but if i win this one on ebay i'll let you know what i think :)
    Yamaha RX-V2700, EMI 711As (front), RCA K-16 (rear), Magnavox Console (Center & TV Stand), Sony SMP-N200 media streamer, Dual 1249 TT =--- Sharp Aquas 60" LCD tellie
  • Bernal
    Bernal Posts: 991
    edited January 2010
    This is why I'm confused. He said Sunfire and I paraphrase "is the top of the heap."

    Bernal how does the Mac and the MBL fair compared to your Sunfire?

    MBL: It is of great naturalness and purity, to hear the music is alive and strawberry. It's wonderful to be impressed by the degree of accuracy
  • Bernal
    Bernal Posts: 991
    edited January 2010
    Let me rephrase my question. Having both the Sunfire and the MBL which sounds better in your experienced opinion?

    MBL It is of great naturalness and purity, to hear the music is alive and strawberry. It's wonderful to be impressed by the degree of accuracy
    MBL: It is better, I use it on my stereo system
  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited January 2010
    The Hughes AK-100 is another approach to canceling inter-aural crosstalk, like the Carver C-9 outboard processor, and Polk's passive SDA.

    I have had one for years although I don't use it. I got it as a back-up to the C-9. The AK-100 is much more "adjustable" than the C-9. The demonstrations that compelled me to get one were very realistic. Neat toy, after Hughes abandoned the home audio field, the design was employed by a company called Nu-Reality. Their top shelf piece was basically a clone of the AK-100, also very adjustable. I have one of those also.
  • engtaz
    engtaz Posts: 7,669
    edited January 2010
    Tom H said it correct.
    engtaz

    I love how music can brighten up a bad day.
  • Bernal
    Bernal Posts: 991
    edited January 2010
  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited January 2010
    FYI the thing on the top shelf with the squeezebox sitting on top of it is a protype Carver tube pre with an interesting story in aquiring.Perhaps Dace might share it,,I found it interesting anyway.
    JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut)
  • TNRabbit
    TNRabbit Posts: 2,168
    edited January 2010
    I found this an interesting development:

    "The Heart and Soul of a Vacuum Tube Amplifier, the output transformer:

    Yes, the Output Transformer. You can imagine my sadness when we ran out of the output transformers that I had been saving my whole grown-up life. I had only one, single output transformer left from my previously abundant stash, so I decided to take it apart and look inside, with the idea of copying it down to every last detail. I had never looked inside, and what I found was that it was clearly not a commercial transformer design - it was way too good - it just had to be wound especially for the military, it was that amazing inside. It was "pie" wound with many seperate pie windings, a vintage winding geometry that is not used today; it's way too expensive, was a true art form, and besides, it is not needed anyway. The science of steel, in the vast gulf of the intervening 50 years or so has developed to a remarkable degree. Steel today is not what it was 50 years ago; it is a zillion times better - less hysteresis loss, far greater magnetizing inductance, and immensely greater immunity to saturation. Today, great transformers can be very simply "layer" wound, and by using modern steel, superb performance may still be obtained. Just the same, I copied the pie winding geometry down to the exact detail, but was unable to locate any vintage "iron" (steel actually). So I had to use modern steel. And guess what happened! Well, I for one was not prepared for what what happened next. Losses dropped to almost nothing, power response went through the roof, and the power bandwidth increased about half an octave! I stepped back from my laboratory bench, and looked at the thing wide-eyed, scarcely believing my measurements. Not only that, but I found the maximum power output had increased by eighty three watts. And here's the best part: they sound the same, exactly the same as my original transformers do. I feel LUCKY!"

    ...and this is a low distortion figure for 180 watts tube amp:

    "distortion less than 0.15 % at clipping"
    TNRabbit
    NO Polk Audio Equipment :eek:
    Sunfire TG-IV
    Ashly 1001 Active Crossover
    Rane PEQ-15 Parametric Equalizers x 2
    Sunfire Cinema Grand Signature Seven
    Carver AL-III Speakers
    Klipsch RT-12d Subwoofer
  • gdb
    gdb Posts: 6,012
    edited January 2010
    Good luck, you are in for a long ride! ($5000-$7000) probably:eek::D
  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited January 2010
    I'm sorry, that's a little creepy.

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    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
  • TNRabbit
    TNRabbit Posts: 2,168
    edited January 2010
    "each monoblock is personally humped by Bob before shipment"

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    TNRabbit
    NO Polk Audio Equipment :eek:
    Sunfire TG-IV
    Ashly 1001 Active Crossover
    Rane PEQ-15 Parametric Equalizers x 2
    Sunfire Cinema Grand Signature Seven
    Carver AL-III Speakers
    Klipsch RT-12d Subwoofer
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,419
    edited January 2010
    TNRabbit wrote: »
    "each monoblock is personally humped by Bob before shipment"

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    If that's the case, I want a huge discount :p
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Puritan Audio PSM136 Pwr Condtioner & Classic PC's | Legend L600 | Roon Nucleus 1 w/LPS - Tubes add soul!
  • gdb
    gdb Posts: 6,012
    edited January 2010
    Is Bob's "fluid" better than DeOxit ??:eek::confused::D
  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited January 2010
    gdb wrote: »
    Is Bob's "fluid" better than DeOxit ??:eek::confused::D

    :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
  • Tony M
    Tony M Posts: 11,587
    edited January 2010
    TNRabbit wrote: »
    "each monoblock is personally humped by Bob before shipment"

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    Ya'lls coments made me LOL!

    That picture maybe should've been deleated with the first viewing from the camera and a better pose figured out.

    I'm still chuckling over this..:D



    I did like his genuine smile with winding his own transformer though. You know he could pay somebody to do that ,yet he does it himself. That's a picture of a moment of JOY for him. God bless Bob!
    Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.

    “Anger is an acid that can do more harm to the vessel in which it is stored than to anything on which it is poured.”
    --Mark Twain.

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  • Tony M
    Tony M Posts: 11,587
    edited January 2010
    Lasareath wrote: »
    He's selling another pair and I am the top bidder!!!!!


    You need to bid again already.:(





    I'll chuckle every time I see that photo as long as I live......Fluids?.....Polishing maybe?




    One more comment,
    My Sunfire did come back a little dirty from Rita's.......:confused:
    Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.

    “Anger is an acid that can do more harm to the vessel in which it is stored than to anything on which it is poured.”
    --Mark Twain.

    “If at first you don't succeed, then skydiving definitely isn't for you.” - Steven Wright
  • gdb
    gdb Posts: 6,012
    edited January 2010
    Ahh, there's a good reason for the "humpage"........Bob made the transformers with PIE WINDINGS !!!:eek::D:D:D
  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited January 2010
    gdb wrote: »
    Ahh, there's a good reason for the "humpage"........Bob made the transformers with PIE WINDINGS !!!:eek::D:D:D

    I was thinking the same thing. **** that makes me as sick as you!:D:p
  • gdb
    gdb Posts: 6,012
    edited January 2010
    Yeah, Great Minds Think Alike !!(sick ones too:D)