Sub settings and volume on sub question

kevindef
kevindef Posts: 20
edited January 2010 in Speakers
When I calibrated my sub, a polk DSW Pro 600, I turned the Low Pass filter knob all the way up to 120Hz and set the volume on the sub to 19, which is on a scale of 0 - 40. I did this because I followed the receiver's instructions. Which said set the volume just below the mid point. I also set the Phase to zero. My receiver is a Sony STR-DA3400ES. When using the receiver's auto calibration and using those settings on the sub, the results then say the sub is out of Phase. So I then set the sub to 180, run the auto calibration again and now the results say the sub is in phase. I am OK with that, but just haven't determined which way I like it to sound. I think it seems to sound fuller with the zero setting, but not sure yet.

The auto calibration also sets the sub at +8 db. When I finished calibrating the sub and leaving the +8 db as calibrated I then cranked up the sub's volume to 27. 20 is the midway point. 40 is the max. Scale is 0- 40. My question, since the auto calibration gives +8 db, am I running the risk of blowing the sub by moving the volume to 27??? Should I return the volume to 19???? Thanks!
RTi A7 (Front L&R), CSi A6 (Center), FXi A4 (L&R Surround), RTi A1 (L&R Rear Surround), DSW Pro 600, SDA 1C Monitor 10B
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  • Jdubbs
    Jdubbs Posts: 51
    edited January 2010
    I think you should do what you think sounds better, that always seems to be the right answer with this stuff and we tend to over think things...i am the worst offender lol.

    That sub is a beast and should be able to handle it. plus you can take advantage of the sub's remote and adjust the settings on the fly depending on what you are watching/listening to. I am thinking of getting that sub for me second system and the remote feature is huge for me as I am always reaching behind the sub and tweaking it.

    I'm not that technical with this stuff so if you blow your sub next week dont hold me responsible lol.
    50" Sony LCD
    Denon 3805
    Polk Audio RM 20 system
    Polk Audio 12" sub
    PS3
    Wii
    Harmony One

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    55" Samsung LED
    Pioneer Elite VSX 23
    Fronts, Center- Polk VM 20
    Rears- Polk VM10
    Sub - DSW Pro 600
    Harmony 900
  • Jdubbs
    Jdubbs Posts: 51
    edited January 2010
    do you use the sub as down firing or front? If I get that one, I would use it as front firing because it would be on carpet which is on a concrete slab on my first floor so the bass would get too absorbed with down firing.
    50" Sony LCD
    Denon 3805
    Polk Audio RM 20 system
    Polk Audio 12" sub
    PS3
    Wii
    Harmony One

    HT system #2
    55" Samsung LED
    Pioneer Elite VSX 23
    Fronts, Center- Polk VM 20
    Rears- Polk VM10
    Sub - DSW Pro 600
    Harmony 900
  • kevindef
    kevindef Posts: 20
    edited January 2010
    Thanks for the replies! I use the sub as down firing. I have to tell you, it is a beast! It shakes the house. Actually knocked a picture off the wall that is hanging just above the sub location. That is 1 of the reasons for my question. I was wondering if I was over doing it. I just don't know if the auto calibration is giving what it should be and I should not turn up the volume on the sub anymore. Thanks!
    RTi A7 (Front L&R), CSi A6 (Center), FXi A4 (L&R Surround), RTi A1 (L&R Rear Surround), DSW Pro 600, SDA 1C Monitor 10B
  • wutadumsn23
    wutadumsn23 Posts: 3,702
    edited January 2010
    As stated above, let your ears make the decision for you. If it seems like it is giving you too much oompf, then turn it down a few notches. Those auto calibrators are pretty good, and pretty accurate. If it says you needed a boost of 8db at 19, then leave it at 19. If you want it at 27, then set the boost at 0 yourself and leave it at 27.

    -Jeff
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  • kaiserkreb
    kaiserkreb Posts: 16
    edited January 2010
    As stated above, let your ears make the decision for you. If it seems like it is giving you too much oompf, then turn it down a few notches. Those auto calibrators are pretty good, and pretty accurate. If it says you needed a boost of 8db at 19, then leave it at 19. If you want it at 27, then set the boost at 0 yourself and leave it at 27.

    -Jeff

    I would agree with this. I have a 12" velodyne set to about 34 out of 100, and the amp (str-da5400es) told me it was out of phase and set the gain at +6. It absolutely rocks the house at that level. I tried each phase setting from my listening position and decided to leave it at 0. I think it may have gotten some odd rebounds due to furniture placement and the subs positioning in a corner.
  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited January 2010
    You could start with getting a radio shack analog SPL meter and run a test tone frm AVR left front speaker and then go to the sub running a test tone and set sub volume level to match from left speaker.

    To truely calibrate your sub you need something like Room EQ Wizard (free at hometheatershack.com) then use your AVR calibration. AVRs just can not deal with LFE freqs because of all the dips and peaks nor were AVRs designed to much with them.

    To setup a sub correctly (unless using a auto sub calibration tool like the SVS/Audessy) is a painstaking and time intensive effort but well worth it in the end.

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