Lsi setting with SONY 5400es

htrs

I am very new at this and after reading reviews and with some inputs from members of Forum have recently bought Lsi9 , lsiC and LC80i (in ceiling) for rear. I have setup everything using HDMI and 16G wires.

I ran the provided stereo mic provided with 5400es and sucessfully setup using automatic speaker setup.

Problem is that i do not feel my rears. I am more of Movie person and have watched couple of movies but I have not fealt my rears kicking IN.

Am I missing anything? I did not had a chance to connect Sub (505) yet.

Thanks in advance.

HTRS

nguyendot

95% of your sound comes from the center channel. You won't hear much from the rears except in very loud action scenes for the most part.

You can run the test tone and verify they're working and adjust the levels if you want too.

MANSKITO

well you might of (by mistake) incorrectly wired your speakers. Try swapping the wire leads at the receiver end (because you have the in ceiling speakers). If that dose not work try hocking up a known working speaker to the surround out put of the receiver and see if it puts out sound, if not then you know the receiver is broken. Also make sure A/B speaker switching is correctly configured . (that messed me up a lot when I first got started) Lastly your receiver should have a 5 or 7 channel stereo sound mode. Put in a CD and put that mode on sound should be coming out equally from every speaker.

dorokusai

I always run my surrounds hot by about 3db, regardless of how it calibrates.

MANSKITO

dorokusai wrote: »

I always run my surrounds hot by about 3db, regardless of how it calibrates.

why?

htrs

Guys, thanks for looking into this....I read a lot of reviews before and knew this was a common problem so I was extra careful while putting the wires ... irrespective they are connected by Banana plug and I swaped them at receiver but still no difference.

I have three settings on LC80i one is wall distance that I have set <2 feet, other are axis and twitter ..I get the axis part but what would tweeter setting do ?

Dorokusai, you said to keep surround hot by 3DB, how can i change this setting (if you have experience with 5400 menu, which I am sure you would ).

Other problem could be the placement, the lc80 are in line of my sitting position (my room dimesions contraints) but 12 feet apart, though I can't do much about them now.

htrs

To clarify, the problem is not in sound output but the quality of sound output (almost NONE) and for movies I have tried higher volumes (-17DB), next would be the music which I rarely play.

danger boy

try this... is your receiver in Dolby Digital or DTS? be sure the signal you are listening to is one of them. if your receiver is playing a Pro Logic sound. you may not hear much of anything from the rears.

also, be sure your rears are set to large for a full/large speaker signal.. small will cross it over.

sounds like it is a set up menu problem in your receiver.. not that it's broken or anything.. just a certain setting might be causing the problem. I know this is a PITA, but can you do a reset on your receiver and delete all setting for set up? that would take everything down to you having to set everything up again, but it may help in the long run to see something that you may have overlooked.

You also did not mention your source? Are you trying to watch a DVD movie or what? list your source player and how you have it connected to your receiver.

McLoki

if you have a 5.1 system (not 7.1) you have your surrounds hooked up to the surround or surround side output on your receiver right? (i.e. - your surround speakers are not hooked up to the "surround - back" outputs on our AVR are they?)


Michael

Edit - Depending on your answer above - I may have other questions for you.... (like if 7.1 - are you not getting sound from the surround side, surround back or both channels and what decoding are you doing? (i.e. - pro-logic, dolby digital, DTS, DTS-Master, listening to DVD's, Blu-Rays, or CD's?)

wutadumsn23

Good point Michael, didn't even think of that.

-Jeff

dorokusai

MANSKITO wrote: »

why?

Why not? I like surround effects and enjoy a bit of emphasis on them.

kaiserkreb

htrs wrote: »

Dorokusai, you said to keep surround hot by 3DB, how can i change this setting (if you have experience with 5400 menu, which I am sure you would ).

Go into the levels menu on your receiver and then just keep scrolling over until you find the subwoofer and bump it up a few notches. I keep mine around +6 and my sub around 30% gain. Seems like a decent level. You can adjust any speaker in the room from this menu as well. If you're using the onscreen GUI, I think it is under settings, speakers, manual. Then you pick the speaker on screen and touch up levels and distances, etc.

I also have the 5400 and noticed on regular 5.1 decodes, the rear channel is usually flat on auto calibration if you're using Auto A.F.D. You can hit the Movie button right next to A.F.D on the remote and it significantly boosts the surround field in a few predetermined configs. If you don't like the extra noise it provides, (it's hit and miss for me, depending on the movie) you can just leave the receiver set to the Auto A.F.D mode and use the method I mentioned earlier to boost the sub and apply it to your surround rear channels.

I would also suggest not setting your rears to large and let the sub take care of it at around 80-90 hz but that's just my opinion. I leave all of mine set to small and my velodyne handles the rest. Takes alot of strain off of the amp. Each to their own though. Let your ears guide you.

Darren

cfrizz

Welcome Darren!

I can adjust all of my speakers volumes through my remote on the fly. Talk about convenient.

kaiserkreb

cfrizz wrote: »

Welcome Darren!

I can adjust all of my speakers volumes through my remote on the fly. Talk about convenient.

Well, so can I, just not with a direct function on the remote. All it takes is one menu level and everything is right there. Really don't need to tinker with them much after the initial config anyways so it doesn't really bother me. He wanted help with his 5400ES so I obliged as I also own one.

tonyb

Yeah,chicks and their toys. My avr is bigger than yours...nah nah nah!

Sorry Cathy, been awhile since I yanked your chain a bit.:p:D

cfrizz

tonyb wrote: »

Yeah,chicks and their toys. My avr is bigger than yours...nah nah nah!

Sorry Cathy, been awhile since I yanked your chain a bit.:p:D

:eek::D LOL! At least I only brag about my toys once in a blue moon, rather than every other day Tony!:p

htrs

Guys you all Rock. I learned the Manual setting and changed the rears to +3DB ..that does make a lot of difference, my axis was off by more than 15% so I switch that in LC80i - some improvement. My speakers are all set to small and I tried to change my rear to Large but my 5400 won't allow, though I am happy with what it is now. I have put my crossover at 60 and the combination now sounds like LSi series.

The provided calibration MIC (though stereo with 5400) is of no use, atleast to my taste and I was better off believing my ears.

Thanks everyone for their inputs.
HTRS

tonyb

Maybe I missed something, but I take it your driving all 4 ohm speakers from a receiver ?

kaiserkreb

htrs wrote: »

Guys you all Rock. I learned the Manual setting and changed the rears to +3DB ..that does make a lot of difference, my axis was off by more than 15% so I switch that in LC80i - some improvement. My speakers are all set to small and I tried to change my rear to Large but my 5400 won't allow, though I am happy with what it is now. I have put my crossover at 60 and the combination now sounds like LSi series.

The provided calibration MIC (though stereo with 5400) is of no use, atleast to my taste and I was better off believing my ears.

Thanks everyone for their inputs.
HTRS

You should have the ability to set the rears to large, I've never tried to do them seperately from all of the other speakers but I don't see why it would matter.