Strange rack idea

madmax
madmax Posts: 12,434
edited January 2010 in 2 Channel Audio
Has anyone seen or tried these racks? They look quite intersting.
madmax

http://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=SPESS4020
Vinyl, the final frontier...

Avantgarde horns, 300b tubes, thats the kinda crap I want... :D
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  • WilliamM2
    WilliamM2 Posts: 4,775
    edited January 2010
    Definitely a unique design. Don't know how well acrylic will hold up though. Easy to scratch, and usually turns a bit cloudy over time.
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited January 2010
    I wonder if the heat from tubes would warp it after time.
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,419
    edited January 2010
    ...and its not exactly a bargain. I love the design though.
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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited January 2010
    I'm mostly wondering if the acrylic would actually help or hurt the sound of something sensitive to vibration. Its hard and dense but that is about all I figured out. The heat thing with tubes, I think that might be a very good point. I was just casually looking at it because of the way the shelves are held with the stainless steel wire, seemed odd.
    madmax
    Vinyl, the final frontier...

    Avantgarde horns, 300b tubes, thats the kinda crap I want... :D
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  • rcrook317
    rcrook317 Posts: 280
    edited January 2010
    u spend 3,000 on a rack ?
    money must be burning a hole in ur pocket
    fronts=rti12s(cherry)
    center=csi3(cherry)
    sub=psw125(cherry)
    emotiva xpa-2
    harmon kardon 354
    sony cdp
    ipod 8gb
    audioquest diamondback 1m
    "Maesto" straightwire cables
    pangea ac-9
    playstation3/120gb=blu-ray/media server
    monitor=lg 55inch lcd(1080p)
    TT Set-up=Pro-Ject RM 1.3
    Kenwood Phono
    bren1 Clamp
    Herbies Slipmat

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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited January 2010
    rcrook317 wrote: »
    u spend 3,000 on a rack ?
    money must be burning a hole in ur pocket

    Not me man, I'm trying to pay down a mortage! :eek:
    madmax
    Vinyl, the final frontier...

    Avantgarde horns, 300b tubes, thats the kinda crap I want... :D
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  • MillerLiteScott
    MillerLiteScott Posts: 2,561
    edited January 2010
    I will never know first hand.
    I like speakers that are bigger than a small refrigerator but smaller than a big refrigerator:D
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  • THEJERMON
    THEJERMON Posts: 96
    edited January 2010
    Looks nice but a ridiculous price...... IMO Give me a break!
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  • Polkersince85
    Polkersince85 Posts: 2,883
    edited January 2010
    Looks like a Fritos rack I just saw down at the 7-11. ;) Put a couple boxes of SlimJims on top and your good to go.
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  • rcrook317
    rcrook317 Posts: 280
    edited January 2010
    srry,just making a statement,not directed towards anyone in general
    fronts=rti12s(cherry)
    center=csi3(cherry)
    sub=psw125(cherry)
    emotiva xpa-2
    harmon kardon 354
    sony cdp
    ipod 8gb
    audioquest diamondback 1m
    "Maesto" straightwire cables
    pangea ac-9
    playstation3/120gb=blu-ray/media server
    monitor=lg 55inch lcd(1080p)
    TT Set-up=Pro-Ject RM 1.3
    Kenwood Phono
    bren1 Clamp
    Herbies Slipmat

    "It doesnt mean that much to me,to mean that much to you"
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited January 2010
    Stick with the basics.

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  • AFEuphman
    AFEuphman Posts: 55
    edited January 2010
    I know this one's ugly (I built it), but I really like the three legged allthread designs. Soooo easy, cheap and customizable!
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  • rcrook317
    rcrook317 Posts: 280
    edited January 2010
    AFEuphman wrote: »
    I know this one's ugly (I built it), but I really like the three legged allthread designs. Soooo easy, cheap and customizable!

    funny,im doing the same design rite now!
    all tho my shelfs are 3/4 in thick and 24x20 w/ birch wood.
    putting multiple layers of stain and polyurethane on as we speak.
    i got specs from flexi-rack.....or something like that.cost me about 120 for all suplies,which is pretty cheap compared to a wood audio rack pre-made
    fronts=rti12s(cherry)
    center=csi3(cherry)
    sub=psw125(cherry)
    emotiva xpa-2
    harmon kardon 354
    sony cdp
    ipod 8gb
    audioquest diamondback 1m
    "Maesto" straightwire cables
    pangea ac-9
    playstation3/120gb=blu-ray/media server
    monitor=lg 55inch lcd(1080p)
    TT Set-up=Pro-Ject RM 1.3
    Kenwood Phono
    bren1 Clamp
    Herbies Slipmat

    "It doesnt mean that much to me,to mean that much to you"
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,033
    edited January 2010
    Chuck, for that kind of money, I have seen nothing better that Triangle isolation racks that are custom built and signed by the German engineer that designs and builds them. His name escapes me right now as it has been a couple of years. The only photo I could find online tonight was this one and it's close, but nowhere near the real thing. The real thing is of quality that is superb from the one's I saw with scribed signature's from the builder himself along with the serial numbers of each one.

    walkerrack.jpg

    For some reason, I can't find a lick of information about the Triangle racks. If you don't have luck and you are interested, I don't mind at all going back to the shop I discovered them at. Just say the word. ;)
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  • AFEuphman
    AFEuphman Posts: 55
    edited January 2010
    rcrook317, that's very cool! Yeah, yours should turn out gorgeous! I was way too excited when I found the plans (and for that matter, cash strapped!) to really source better woods. Plus, I didn't really trust myself to drill straight holes at the time! :) Mine are just yellow pine with a little stain on them. They are a bit darker than the picture suggests. They certainly do fit the bill, though. I've often thought about using some type of rubber grommet to isolate each shelf. You know, drill bigger hole, insert rubber "tube" and then allthread through the "tube."
    Anyway, all KINDS of ways to go crazy with these things! Good luck and be sure to get a pic of them!
    Lasareath, thanks, and I agree... at least maybe some false fronts to make them look thicker! ;) There are all kinds of flexirack designs out there.
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  • TECHNOKID
    TECHNOKID Posts: 4,298
    edited January 2010
    I think it looks spiffy however, I am not too keen about open racks due to dust easily getting in the gear. Not a big deal since I don't have that kind of money and if I did I start by looking at upgrading for better gear. Still, cool rack :)
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  • sk1939
    sk1939 Posts: 295
    edited January 2010
    I tried building something similar (bookcase) using similar material (1" thick plexiglass, pine sides), but the material has a tendency to warp over time with alot of weight, it developed sag in the middle in my case. My guess is acrylic would be similar if it weren't for the way they have it connected to the cables.
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  • TNRabbit
    TNRabbit Posts: 2,168
    edited January 2010
    Looks more like a recipe for vibration than an isolator~
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  • amulford
    amulford Posts: 5,020
    edited January 2010
    I don't know, the suspension design looks like it would isolate the components fairly well. The materials of construction themselves, well I'm not too sure...

    It looks good, I must say that. Not $3000 good, but hey...
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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited January 2010
    rcrook317 wrote: »
    srry,just making a statement,not directed towards anyone in general

    I didn't think anything of it. :)
    madmax
    Vinyl, the final frontier...

    Avantgarde horns, 300b tubes, thats the kinda crap I want... :D
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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited January 2010
    I would say its a pretty good value, it certainly will help your foundation and energy system, when you get the new TT you might as well pick up something like this as well. I am still digging my Billy Bags rack and it only cost about half of this one, just not quite as pretty, another nice rack are the Adona systems.

    All gear will benefit from foundation support, in fact the less expensive gear with light chassis will get a nice improvement in SQ.

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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited January 2010
    I can never figure out where I need isolation or good solid support. Most think that tube amps should be spiked to the floor but much other equipment seems to be a mystery. Or, maybe I'm just ignorant of it.
    madmax
    Vinyl, the final frontier...

    Avantgarde horns, 300b tubes, thats the kinda crap I want... :D
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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited January 2010
    the problem I have with spikes is the ad men saying they can either couple/decouple so what are you supposed to do, tell them what you want them to do???????

    I do spike my rack and my tube amp stands I like vibrapods as well, inexpensive and I guarantee they work, well, they did nice things to for me turning Good Vibrations from Bad one..........

    which means I am digging those Good Vibrations.........

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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited January 2010
    reeltrouble1 wrote: »
    the problem I have with spikes is the ad men saying they can either couple/decouple so what are you supposed to do, tell them what you want them to do???????
    RT1

    I think what they mean by that is they couple the vibration to/from wherever the spike hits and decouple multiple vibrations where the spike actually touches the other surface. For example, if you had a flat surface hitting a flat surface you could couple the vibration but also crate a new vibration where the two surfaces were not completely parallel to each other. Thats my stab at it... :D
    Vinyl, the final frontier...

    Avantgarde horns, 300b tubes, thats the kinda crap I want... :D
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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited January 2010
    most certainly Rabbit Hole criteria Max.

    you head up until you choose to gear down but if you head up again then what was declared down is in fact up. maintaining linearity within the peaks is safely satisfying for a time but unlikely to interupt the boredom with any nervous thrill. seeking the edges while leaving a bread crumb trail may be worth study. there can however never be relief without tension each users tolerance unique yet classifiable.

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