TV in my 2 channel set up?

Toolfan66
Toolfan66 Posts: 17,243
edited January 2010 in 2 Channel Audio
Well my 2 channel set up is in our main livingroom we have never had a TV or any equipment in that room till I put together the system I have now. well the wife wants me to put in a TV with my system, wall mounted and get the VTI stand I have been wanting. I like the fact of having just a listening area for music but on the other hand I will be able to play some of my music DVD's and BluRay's as well as DVD A's on my SDA's

What are your thoughts on putting a TV in your 2 channel rig? I will have to give in as she has let me get away with doing alot last year.


Larry.
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  • Zitro
    Zitro Posts: 864
    edited January 2010
    I have a TV in mine, but out of necessity. My college apartment is not very big. I have my TV/Xbox running through my NAD integrated amp. Not too bad, it's kinda nice having your TV together with your rig so you can watch and listen all in one place. The only issue is my TV is directly between my speakers, which hinders imaging, but yours won't be so bad since it is wall mounted.

    Good luck! Always good to keep the wife happy, especially if they can tolerate our obsession ;)
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  • leroyjr1
    leroyjr1 Posts: 8,785
    edited January 2010
    It can be good and bad. I have a Pioneer Elite plasma in my 2 channel living room setup. The good is I can watch blu ray movies, And music DVD's but I hate knowing if company comes over and wants to watch tv in the living room and I'm not there the girlfriend would have to mess with and turn on my gear. For some reason whenever people come over and see my big sda's they think loud and always want to hear how loud they can go.
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  • Serendipity
    Serendipity Posts: 6,975
    edited January 2010
    I use a projector with my 2 channel set up.
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  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,077
    edited January 2010
    blasphemy

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  • Ern Dog
    Ern Dog Posts: 2,237
    edited January 2010
    Works well for me. It's kinda cool to watch tv or DVD's with audio going through my Tyler Acoustic Linbrooks. Sounds great.
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited January 2010
    Maybe it's time to upgrade your HT instead. ;)
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  • tcrossma
    tcrossma Posts: 1,301
    edited January 2010
    I have a TV in mine, out of necessity. But it is nice to be able to play some XBox or watch a movie when I'm not listening to music.
    Speakers: Polk LSi15
    Pre: Adcom GFP-750 with HT Bypass
    Amp: Pass Labs X-150
    CD/DVD Player: Classe CDP-10
    Interconnects: MIT Shortgun S3 Pro XLR
    Speaker cables: MIT MH-750 bi-wire
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  • pearsall001
    pearsall001 Posts: 5,068
    edited January 2010
    Not a problem at all. Whether it's a movie or two channel listening I'm ready to go. No conflict what so ever.
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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited January 2010
    2 channel rigs dont have TV's.

    RT1
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  • rcrook317
    rcrook317 Posts: 280
    edited January 2010
    i love concert dvds when im entertaining guests plus my living room serves dual purpose for ht and music.
    man cave will have to wait till we get new home.
    so i c no prob w tv in 2channel setup
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  • TECHNOKID
    TECHNOKID Posts: 4,298
    edited January 2010
    Ern Dog wrote: »
    Works well for me. It's kinda cool to watch tv or DVD's with audio going through my Tyler Acoustic Linbrooks. Sounds great.
    tcrossma wrote: »
    I have a TV in mine, out of necessity. But it is nice to be able to play some XBox or watch a movie when I'm not listening to music.
    Before I got into HT my 2 channel was hooked-up to my living room CRT TV (which wasn't bad since the kids had their own living room (which is now being enlarged to become the dedicated HT room)). I am working hard to have a system hooked-up to each TV/display in the house, I can no longer imagine audio set-up without visual set-up and vice versa. I feel it is a big waiste of a good movie to simply be watched with only the built in TV audio.
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,243
    edited January 2010
    I have talked her out of it for now, I got her to focus on new sinks and painting the bathroom. I really don't want one in the mix the more I think about it anyway.
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  • Montoya
    Montoya Posts: 506
    edited January 2010
    Your wife and my wife think alike. LoL
    TOOLFORLIFEFAN wrote: »
    Well my 2 channel set up is in our main livingroom we have never had a TV or any equipment in that room till I put together the system I have now. well the wife wants me to put in a TV with my system, wall mounted and get the VTI stand I have been wanting. I like the fact of having just a listening area for music but on the other hand I will be able to play some of my music DVD's and BluRay's as well as DVD A's on my SDA's

    What are your thoughts on putting a TV in your 2 channel rig? I will have to give in as she has let me get away with doing alot last year.

    Larry.
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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited January 2010
    TOOLFORLIFEFAN wrote: »
    I have talked her out of it for now, I got her to focus on new sinks and painting the bathroom. I really don't want one in the mix the more I think about it anyway.

    wise decision.:rolleyes:

    RT1
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  • Conradicles
    Conradicles Posts: 6,081
    edited January 2010
    2 Channel Rig = No TV
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited January 2010
    I beg to differ. You can totally isolate video from your 2 channel rig via toslink if you have a DAC. This is what I do. My video components have NO electrical connection to the rest of my 2-channel components. This is one of the big benefits of Toslink.
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited January 2010
    What about the large object in between your speakers?

    It can be a non issue if it's set back a few feet or so.
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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited January 2010
    Main two channel rig used for a good movie or concert, you betcha so long as it isn't causing any problem between the speakers. A nice set in plasma, LCD or projector is what I'm talking about.
    Vinyl, the final frontier...

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  • Robint
    Robint Posts: 10
    edited January 2010
    I have a tv in my 2 channel set-up. The name of the game is audio quality. I use an old crt tv, mono speaker. Now the cable goes through the vcr and onto the receiver. I use a 1984 Technics SA-510 and have the vcr, dvd audio cables hooked up. The video cables go directly to the tv. So it's great to listen to a lp while watching football or the radio commentary. It also improves the sound quality and enjoyment of watching a video tape. Get great sound out of a pair of Monitor 5a's. Consider the video totally seperate from the audio.
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited January 2010
    My speakers front baffles are placed about 4" in front of my HDTV screen, and theres a good 3-4ft space between ea speaker and the TV. Toslink keeps all video components isolated from my 2-channel audio.
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  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited January 2010
    I don't see the issue as long as it doesn't get in the way, as others have said. I've been toying with the idea. My speakers are 4 ft from the wall, so a flat screen back there would not bother. As per the sound? Most 2 ch preamps have several inputs, right? So I don't see the problem. My listening room is also my office when I work from home, so I could even connect my laptop to the big screen.
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  • dacoupedeville
    dacoupedeville Posts: 83
    edited January 2010
    I have found it to be a non-issue with SDA`s. If they are properly placed the tv should not be a deterrent to good sound.

    For selfish reasons you might want to omit the tv. I have a large family and they all want to watch something different. I want music, two channel SDA style!
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  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited January 2010
    I have a TV in my rig. Simply because my rig is in the living room, and i watch movies on my 2-channel rig as well.
    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited January 2010
    madmax wrote: »
    Main two channel rig used for a good movie or concert, you betcha so long as it isn't causing any problem between the speakers. A nice set in plasma, LCD or projector is what I'm talking about.

    and here I thought you were getting serious about 2-ch audio............:eek: stop wasting your cash on necessacities and get a nice HT room built for video. besides with hi-fi music rig sure dont need to "watch" something.....gadzuk man. You need to get that new TT and quick that should get you squared away or perhaps your practicing your Howdy Duty routine.

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  • pearsall001
    pearsall001 Posts: 5,068
    edited January 2010
    My 2 channel system sharing floor space with my HT system is no problem what so ever. I guess a lot of integration issues are room related. My room dimensions just happens to be a perfect fit for both.

    My mains are first & foremost set up for optimal 2 channel listening. They're 4.5' from the back wall & just a tad under 3' from the side walls. Now that gives me plenty of room for my 50" TV between the mains. But the TV & mains are still separated by 2.5' & the mains are off set to the right & left. A perfect listening experience for both venues. What's the problem????

    Oh, & my dual Velo's are directly behind the mains flanking the TV stand. Again a perfect fit for seemless bass integration for both venue's. What's the problem????
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited January 2010
    If I had a dedicated 2-channel room, I'd go that route minus any video. I don't have that luxury.
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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited January 2010
    reeltrouble1 wrote: »
    besides with hi-fi music rig sure dont need to "watch" something.....gadzuk man.
    RT1

    Truthfully I don't care much for HT sound systems, even with video. The two channel rig just sounds so much better and makes the movie so much more enjoyable... ;)
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  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited January 2010
    madmax wrote: »
    Truthfully I don't care much for HT sound systems, even with video. The two channel rig just sounds so much better and makes the movie so much more enjoyable... ;)
    madmax

    With you at the moment. I like the warmth, smoothness, accuracy, and the money shot comes when the soundtrack is really doing it's thing. I don't have the money or the ambition to try to duplicate that sound in an HT setup. I can't decide if the monster impact of an HT i could afford would offset the "niceness" of the 2-channel.

    I don't have dialogue issues, either, so that's nice.
    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited January 2010
    well you can chew on gummy bears or you can chew on razor blades, either way your chewing........no way I would ever put a TV in the Rabbit Hole........in fact, there is nothing not related to music in there....even get my light bulbs specially tubed and damped.......

    my movies are playing with speakers designed for HT apps and I might add that POLK fully assaulted HT sound with those babies, sorry but I did the SDA...RTi...dual rig thing no doubt these I have now blow those away for HT.........aahhhhhhh, I am spoiled rotten.....but loving it. come to think of it there is nothing music related in the Reel Time Theater......its all about popcorn and oh yea......gummy bears bon bons....juju beads and snow cones get a bit sticky though. yea I can dig a concert video in there Chuck.....its a different thing than Hi-Fi SQ but then you knew that.

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  • tcrossma
    tcrossma Posts: 1,301
    edited January 2010
    When you don't have a choice then, well, you don't have a choice. I suppose that given the space and the money I would love to have a dedicated HT.

    But I've learned over the past couple of years that what really makes me happy is listening to music, so what I have done is gear my entire system towards it. I removed my 5.1 LSi system and just kept the front 15's. For electronics, nothing extra is in the signal path when I'm listening to music. So aside from having a piece of furniture and a plasma TV between my speakers there is nothing degrading my 2-channel system.

    When I want to play XBox 360 with my son, I turn on the AVR and TV, flip the Bypass switch on my preamp, and voila. Yes it's only 2.0, but it sounds fantastic. Dialog is crystal clear (honestly it's even better than when I had my 5.1 system in the same room for whatever reason), and there's plenty of impact. I don't miss not having "surround sound" at all.

    Yes it can be a compromise having both systems in one, but only if you want the best of both world. I don't. I'm very happy with 2.0 "HT", and having a system geared towards 2-channel more than makes up for it to me.
    Speakers: Polk LSi15
    Pre: Adcom GFP-750 with HT Bypass
    Amp: Pass Labs X-150
    CD/DVD Player: Classe CDP-10
    Interconnects: MIT Shortgun S3 Pro XLR
    Speaker cables: MIT MH-750 bi-wire
    TT:Micro Seiki DD-35
    Cartridge:Denon DL-160
    Phono Pre:PS Audio GCPH
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