Pio BDP-05FD for $399??

squeeb
squeeb Posts: 426
edited January 2010 in The Clubhouse
I came across this deal on an open box Pio Blu Ray -05FD for $399. Is it worth it? Looks like it is in great condition and the serial number does not match the ones on Pioneer's website to have to send in to get "fixed".

Thanks in advance for you thoughts.
7.3 HT: Sunfire TGR-3, Sunfire Series II, Mirage OMD-28, OMD-5 (x4), REL T1 (2), T2, Oppo 103D, Optoma HD8200PRO, 106" screen, SB Touch
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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited December 2009
    The 05 may be an older model Elite...did you look it up on Pioneer's website as OLDER MODELS? If so it was probably an 800 dollar or more unit when it sold.

    Otherwise xcapri79 is right..

    cnh
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  • superjunior
    superjunior Posts: 1,632
    edited December 2009
    cnh wrote: »
    The 05 may be an older model Elite...did you look it up on Pioneer's website as OLDER MODELS? If so it was probably an 800 dollar or more unit when it sold.

    Otherwise xcapri79 is right..

    cnh
    when I first got back into this hobby, maybe a year and a half ago it still retailed at 799.00 but got it on ebay for less. an awesome player imo and makes a superb cdp as well.
    panasonic th-50pz85u
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    pioneer elite bdp-05fd
    emotiva xpa-3
    monster power hdp 2550
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    sda 2b's
    fronts - rti a9's
    center - csi a6
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  • squeeb
    squeeb Posts: 426
    edited December 2009
    I researched and found the 23fd on ebay going for around $450 and the 05fd on Amazon for $799.
    7.3 HT: Sunfire TGR-3, Sunfire Series II, Mirage OMD-28, OMD-5 (x4), REL T1 (2), T2, Oppo 103D, Optoma HD8200PRO, 106" screen, SB Touch
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  • 1fastz28
    1fastz28 Posts: 122
    edited December 2009
    we have about 5 of those on our sales floor, they all have problems freezing, they are probably the least reliable blu-ray players i've ever seen
    setup
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    Polk RTi A9's
    Polk CSi A6
    FXi A6's
    Energy s12.3 sub
    Denon 3808ci
    Pioneer elite dv-79
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,383
    edited December 2009
    cnh wrote: »
    Otherwise xcapri79 is right..

    cnh

    Holy Crap!:p


    How do you like the TGR-3?
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD

    “When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson
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  • squeeb
    squeeb Posts: 426
    edited December 2009
    1fastz28 wrote: »
    we have about 5 of those on our sales floor, they all have problems freezing, they are probably the least reliable blu-ray players i've ever seen
    Thanks for the heads up. I wondered why they were in the aisle looking out of place. I thought maybe they did not know what they had - apparently they know exactly what they have. Guess I will keep saving my pennies for the Oppo!
    7.3 HT: Sunfire TGR-3, Sunfire Series II, Mirage OMD-28, OMD-5 (x4), REL T1 (2), T2, Oppo 103D, Optoma HD8200PRO, 106" screen, SB Touch
    Family Room: Yamaha RX-V2700, RT25i, 42" Samsung, SB Duet
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  • 1fastz28
    1fastz28 Posts: 122
    edited December 2009
    squeeb wrote: »
    Thanks for the heads up. I wondered why they were in the aisle looking out of place. I thought maybe they did not know what they had - apparently they know exactly what they have. Guess I will keep saving my pennies for the Oppo!

    dont mean to get your hopes up, but if it was 1 with a problem i wouldn't think anything of it, 2, not so much, but 5, all having problems with freezing is a big issue. unless our whole store got an issue with them, i think they have some bugs
    setup
    Panasonic 46pz85
    Polk RTi A9's
    Polk CSi A6
    FXi A6's
    Energy s12.3 sub
    Denon 3808ci
    Pioneer elite dv-79
    Monster 1850
    Denon dp500m w/ grado green
    PS3,XBOX 360, NES
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  • superjunior
    superjunior Posts: 1,632
    edited December 2009
    I had mine for over a year and it never froze up on me, maybe I just got a good one I don't know
    panasonic th-50pz85u
    pioneer elite vsx-92txh
    pioneer elite bdp-05fd
    emotiva xpa-3
    monster power hdp 2550
    sa 8300 hd dvr
    sda 2b's
    fronts - rti a9's
    center - csi a6
    surrounds - fxi a6's
    sub - polk dsw pro 600
    harmony one
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  • squeeb
    squeeb Posts: 426
    edited December 2009
    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    Holy Crap!:p


    How do you like the TGR-3?
    I really like my TGR-3. I like the sound much better than my H/K (which I also like). However, as I am looking for a Blu Ray player it will need to have 7.1 audio outputs - not a big deal but most of the great buys I have seen have not had it. And, I am trying to find the best way to connect headphones without a headphone jack.

    Would I recommend it -- OH YEAH!
    7.3 HT: Sunfire TGR-3, Sunfire Series II, Mirage OMD-28, OMD-5 (x4), REL T1 (2), T2, Oppo 103D, Optoma HD8200PRO, 106" screen, SB Touch
    Family Room: Yamaha RX-V2700, RT25i, 42" Samsung, SB Duet
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  • cstmar01
    cstmar01 Posts: 4,424
    edited December 2009
    1fastz28 wrote: »
    dont mean to get your hopes up, but if it was 1 with a problem i wouldn't think anything of it, 2, not so much, but 5, all having problems with freezing is a big issue. unless our whole store got an issue with them, i think they have some bugs

    There is an issue with the players but its normally not freezing up, its an issue where they just won't play the disc and it affects certain serial numbers which you can check here
    http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Support/HomeEntertainment/Blu-rayDisc+DVD/Important%3A+Notice+of+Free+Update+for+Pioneer+BDP-51FD+%26+BDP-05FD+Blu-ray+Disc+Players
    I has been noted before that with freezing that some people had problems when it was switching between layers on DVD's and blue rays, however with the latest firmware that came out I didn't hear about anyone really having any big issues with it. Some said it was still taking awhile to switch to the next layer but wasn't nearly as bad. I've never heard of the unit freezing completely though and not working, thats new to me.
    The going price on the used verison of the 05 is around 325-350.00. I would say 399 isn't bad for it being new. The only thing too is this one does not have BD live but for me that wasn't a big issue as I don't care for it. The 51's which are the none elite version of this player are also very good and you can find those for around 200.00 and less used. I like the picture quality that the pio puts out, but the oppo is also very good from what I saw breifly of it. I didn't get time to put the oppo in my setup but saw it at a friends house and also loved the picture.
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  • Polkersince85
    Polkersince85 Posts: 2,883
    edited December 2009
    Anybody had any experience with the BD-320. I want one for dvd and br disks with the analog outputs. For around 220.00, it seems like a decent player. Loading time is not an issue with me.
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  • anhchungdoan
    anhchungdoan Posts: 760
    edited January 2010
    superjunior wrote: »
    I had mine for over a year and it never froze up on me, maybe I just got a good one I don't know


    There are abt 100 units in North America effected. As stated previouly, defective units with range of serial number listed on Pio site. I have the 51fds for a while now and there is no issues.

    It does not justify enough to pay xtra hundred $$$ for the Elite logo and the gold-plated connections to match with my SC05. Spec- wise, they are identical.

    One hell of the CDP for the price.
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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited January 2010
    1fastz28 wrote: »
    we have about 5 of those on our sales floor, they all have problems freezing, they are probably the least reliable blu-ray players i've ever seen

    which one? The 23 or the 05....because there are numerous firmware upgrades for the 05 that SOLVE all those problems!!!

    cnh
    Currently orbiting Bowie's Blackstar.!

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  • Grimster74
    Grimster74 Posts: 2,573
    edited January 2010
    I snagged my 05 Elite brand new from BB for right at $200. That's a REAL nice player but not for $400. The most recent firmware updates have resolved most of the problems people complain about on these players though so if you find one for a better price don't shy away from purchasing it.
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  • nadams
    nadams Posts: 5,877
    edited January 2010
    One of these just popped up in my local paper for $250. Ad claims brand new in box, never used.

    I don't want it, but let me know if any of you folks do.
    Ludicrous gibs!
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,952
    edited January 2010
    Polkersince85 wrote: »
    Anybody had any experience with the BD-320. I want one for dvd and br disks with the analog outputs. For around 220.00, it seems like a decent player. Loading time is not an issue with me.

    I have one,wrote up a review on it somewhere.:)
    Load times are not as bad as some suggests and picture and sound are steller. For the 2 bills, it's a great player.
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