Speaker wire.

MANSKITO
MANSKITO Posts: 295
edited December 2009 in Electronics
http://www.roger-russell.com/wire/wire.htm#reviewdares

He seems to know what he is talking about. But on the other hand I see many who say with better wire comes better sound.

What do you guys think?

Makes for a good read.
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  • agfrost
    agfrost Posts: 2,432
    edited December 2009
    Are you kidding me? This needs another thread started? Click 'New Posts' at the top of the page, take your pick of cable threads, and join the fray there.

    Here, I'll give you a head start. LINK Currently 76% of Polkies think Ol' Roger is full of it. Feel free to add your vote.
    Jay
    SDA 2BTL * Musical Fidelity A5cr amp * Oppo BDP-93 * Modded Adcom GDA-600 DAC * Rythmik F8 (x2)
    Micro Seiki DQ-50 * Hagerman Cornet 2 Phono * A hodgepodge of cabling * Belkin PF60
    Preamp rotation: Krell KSL (SCompRacer recapped) * Manley Shrimp * PS Audio 5.0
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  • MANSKITO
    MANSKITO Posts: 295
    edited December 2009
    oh wow sorry had no idea

    (p.s. your link is broken)
    Monitor 60s, CS10 front
    Monitor 40s, back
    PSW10:(

    H/k AVR 325
    Sansui Tape Deck
    Pioneer PD-5010 CD player

    Sennheiser HD 650s :D
    Maverick Audio Tube Magic D1 DAC

    AMD Phenom II 940 @ 3.8 prime stabel
    4 gigs 1066, cas 5
    XFX 4890 1gig
    Seagate 1tb 7200.12
    Creative X-fI Titanium Fatal1ty
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited December 2009
    Lol!
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
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  • NJPOLKER
    NJPOLKER Posts: 3,474
    edited December 2009
    Are you stupid or dumb?
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  • agfrost
    agfrost Posts: 2,432
    edited December 2009
    MANSKITO wrote: »
    oh wow sorry had no idea

    (p.s. your link is broken)

    My frustration isn't directed at you, but rather at the ubiquity of the link you posted, which leads to the same arguments, which are backed by the same cast of characters...

    In short, I suggest you try some cables, within your budget, and let your own ears let you know what you think.
    Jay
    SDA 2BTL * Musical Fidelity A5cr amp * Oppo BDP-93 * Modded Adcom GDA-600 DAC * Rythmik F8 (x2)
    Micro Seiki DQ-50 * Hagerman Cornet 2 Phono * A hodgepodge of cabling * Belkin PF60
    Preamp rotation: Krell KSL (SCompRacer recapped) * Manley Shrimp * PS Audio 5.0
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited December 2009
    NJPOLKER wrote: »
    Are you stupid or dumb?

    He simply didn't know dumbass.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,468
    edited December 2009
    This place just cracks me up sometimes.. LMAO
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  • MANSKITO
    MANSKITO Posts: 295
    edited December 2009
    agfrost wrote: »
    My frustration isn't directed at you, but rather at the ubiquity of the link you posted, which leads to the same arguments, which are backed by the same cast of characters...

    In short, I suggest you try some cables, within your budget, and let your own ears let you know what you think.

    To be sure i will. Not yet how ever I m just trying to get a REAL sub and amp first. I figure fancy wire/power cords make a small % change compared to other things i could spend money on. However one day when my situation changes and I get out of collage, fancy wires will be on the top of my list of things to test.
    Monitor 60s, CS10 front
    Monitor 40s, back
    PSW10:(

    H/k AVR 325
    Sansui Tape Deck
    Pioneer PD-5010 CD player

    Sennheiser HD 650s :D
    Maverick Audio Tube Magic D1 DAC

    AMD Phenom II 940 @ 3.8 prime stabel
    4 gigs 1066, cas 5
    XFX 4890 1gig
    Seagate 1tb 7200.12
    Creative X-fI Titanium Fatal1ty
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,479
    edited December 2009
    MANSKITO, you just posted this at the wrong time. All is well, just follow the other thread to see what the consensus is. Judge for yourself which way you would like to go in your audio journey and no matter what? Just have fun. It's a great hobby. ;)
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited December 2009
    MANSKITO wrote: »
    To be sure i will. Not yet how ever I m just trying to get a REAL sub and amp first. I figure fancy wire/power cords make a small % change compared to other things i could spend money on. However one day when my situation changes and I get out of collage, fancy wires will be on the top of my list of things to test.

    I believe spelling you should be your first priority before you finish school. :D
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
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  • halo71
    halo71 Posts: 4,612
    edited December 2009
    ^ Maybe after he gets out of school he can have a "collage" of speakers wire. :eek::p
    --Gary--
    Onkyo Integra M504, Bottlehead Foreplay III, Denon SACD, Thiel CS2.3, NHT VT-2, VT-3 and Evolution T6, Infinity RSIIIa, SDA1C and a few dozen other speakers around the house I change in and out.
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  • MANSKITO
    MANSKITO Posts: 295
    edited December 2009
    lawl m8s, I've grown up with spell check. Come on now, just a noob I am.
    Monitor 60s, CS10 front
    Monitor 40s, back
    PSW10:(

    H/k AVR 325
    Sansui Tape Deck
    Pioneer PD-5010 CD player

    Sennheiser HD 650s :D
    Maverick Audio Tube Magic D1 DAC

    AMD Phenom II 940 @ 3.8 prime stabel
    4 gigs 1066, cas 5
    XFX 4890 1gig
    Seagate 1tb 7200.12
    Creative X-fI Titanium Fatal1ty
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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited December 2009
    MANSKITO wrote: »
    oh wow sorry had no idea

    (p.s. your link is broken)

    It's cool, the guys/gals around here like to haze newbies now and then. Don't feel bad about putting your foot forward and having someone step on it. Just read the thread and see what most people think.

    And stick around for a while....it's good to just read a lot for a while till you get a bit of info and the hang of the place.

    Most of these guy's bark is worse than they're bite. They're real pussycats who'd love to 'help' you with your audio journey.

    cnh
    Currently orbiting Bowie's Blackstar.!

    Polk Lsi-7s, Def Tech 8" sub, HK 3490, HK HD 990 (CDP/DAC), AKG Q701s
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,479
    edited December 2009
    Bouncing off the post above......
    Face wrote: »
    I believe spelling you should be your first priority before you finish school. :D
    .....and then there's the old dog dogging the old dogs.....

    Face, what the hell is up with that, slacker? :eek: :p:D
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • halo71
    halo71 Posts: 4,612
    edited December 2009
    Manskito, I couldnt resist. I am a n00b around here too. And I recently started a thread about speaker wire as well that touched off a fire storm. Guess it pays to use the search bar. :p

    Hopefully one day I will have a pretty "collage" of speaker cables. Then I can talk more intelligently about them.
    --Gary--
    Onkyo Integra M504, Bottlehead Foreplay III, Denon SACD, Thiel CS2.3, NHT VT-2, VT-3 and Evolution T6, Infinity RSIIIa, SDA1C and a few dozen other speakers around the house I change in and out.
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited December 2009
    treitz3 wrote: »
    Bouncing off the post above......

    .....and then there's the old dog dogging the old dogs.....

    Face, what the hell is up with that, slacker? :eek: :p:D
    Lack of proofreading after an edit. :D
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,479
    edited December 2009
    That's dude alright, I have same the problem time from to time....:D
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • vc69
    vc69 Posts: 2,500
    edited December 2009
    The OP's post illustrates perfectly the problem I have with RR. Newbs get suckered and if they never explore further we end up with xcapri's and cogito's spouting regurgitated nonsense with absolutely no experience. Jeebus.
    -Kevin
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,479
    edited December 2009
    __it happens...
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • Hawkeye
    Hawkeye Posts: 1,313
    edited December 2009
    Yes, the RR papers are a good read. Some good info there, some not. I suggest you keep an open mind and at least entertain the thought that he may be wrong in some areas.

    Most colleges today tend to be liberal. Keep that mind slant when thinking about wires for audio. They can make a difference IF you listen closely and have an open mind.

    Gordon
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  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited December 2009
    Search for posts by "Knucklehead" and read his signature.

    Yes. I"m proud of that. But it's the truth.

    Don't READ about it. LISTEN.
    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

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