Time for a sub upgrade?!

inson71
inson71 Posts: 90
edited December 2009 in Subwoofer Hookup & Bass Management
I currently have a Pardigm PW-2200. All the chatter on this board about SVS has given me the upgrade bug. My question is this: Is the SVS PB 12 Plus a big enough upgrade over the Paradigm to justify the expense. My mouth waters every time I see the SVS on their website. If anyone has experience with these subs, please advise.
Onkyo Pr-sc 5509
Parasound 2250/Parasound 5125
SVS PB 12 Plus
Denon DBP-2012 Bluray
Polk RTI 8, CSI 3, 4 FXI 3
Sony 55" LCD
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  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited December 2009
    I guess it depends on what kind of increase you're expecting. You have a monster sub there....
    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

    Living Room: B&K Reference 5 S2 / Parasound HCA-1000A / Emotiva XDA-2 / Pioneer BDP-51FD / Paradigm 11se MKiii

    Desk: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / ISK HD9999

    Office: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / Dynaco SCA-80Q / Paradigm Legend V.3

    HT: Denon AVR-X3400H / Sony UBP-X700 / RT16 / CS350LS / RT7 / SVS PB1000
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  • jparker82
    jparker82 Posts: 54
    edited December 2009
    Very Happy with a Definitve Tech sub I picked up AT Best Buys Magnolia Home Theater.
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  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited December 2009
    jparker82 wrote: »
    Very Happy with a Definitve Tech sub I picked up AT Best Buys Magnolia Home Theater.

    That sub is probably..... 25% of the sub that the OP currently has. (That may be a slight exaggeration, but you get the idea.)
    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

    Living Room: B&K Reference 5 S2 / Parasound HCA-1000A / Emotiva XDA-2 / Pioneer BDP-51FD / Paradigm 11se MKiii

    Desk: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / ISK HD9999

    Office: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / Dynaco SCA-80Q / Paradigm Legend V.3

    HT: Denon AVR-X3400H / Sony UBP-X700 / RT16 / CS350LS / RT7 / SVS PB1000
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  • inson71
    inson71 Posts: 90
    edited December 2009
    The Paradigm is great on movies, but lacking a little punch on music. Plus, The SVS looks awesome and has been bragged about as the best sub for the price out there.
    Onkyo Pr-sc 5509
    Parasound 2250/Parasound 5125
    SVS PB 12 Plus
    Denon DBP-2012 Bluray
    Polk RTI 8, CSI 3, 4 FXI 3
    Sony 55" LCD
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  • Serendipity
    Serendipity Posts: 6,975
    edited December 2009
    I would stick with the sub you already have.
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  • McLoki
    McLoki Posts: 5,231
    edited December 2009
    Where are you at in Illinois? You are welcome to stop by and check out my SVS's sometime if you would like.

    Michael
    Mains.............Polk LSi15 (Cherry)
    Center............Polk LSiC (Crossover upgraded)
    Surrounds.......Polk LSi7 (Gloss Black - wood sides removed and crossovers upgraded)
    Subwoofers.....SVS 25-31 CS+ and PC+ (both 20hz tune)
    Pre\Pro...........NAD T163 (Modded with LM4562 opamps)
    Amplifier.........Cinepro 3k6 (6-channel, 500wpc@4ohms)
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  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited December 2009
    inson71 wrote: »
    The Paradigm is great on movies, but lacking a little punch on music. Plus, The SVS looks awesome and has been bragged about as the best sub for the price out there.

    Where do you have it placed? I can't imagine that thing lacking punch in pretty much any scenario.

    Do you mean it's muddy or slow?
    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

    Living Room: B&K Reference 5 S2 / Parasound HCA-1000A / Emotiva XDA-2 / Pioneer BDP-51FD / Paradigm 11se MKiii

    Desk: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / ISK HD9999

    Office: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / Dynaco SCA-80Q / Paradigm Legend V.3

    HT: Denon AVR-X3400H / Sony UBP-X700 / RT16 / CS350LS / RT7 / SVS PB1000
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  • inson71
    inson71 Posts: 90
    edited December 2009
    Michael, I am in the northwestern part of Illinois about an hour west of Rockford. Where are you? I would love to hear your sub.

    Concealer, I have it placed in the front corner. It is a bit slow on music.
    Onkyo Pr-sc 5509
    Parasound 2250/Parasound 5125
    SVS PB 12 Plus
    Denon DBP-2012 Bluray
    Polk RTI 8, CSI 3, 4 FXI 3
    Sony 55" LCD
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  • danz1906
    danz1906 Posts: 5,144
    edited December 2009
    SVS very impressive!
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    M&K MX-70 Sub for Music
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    SVS Ultra-13 Gloss Black:D
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  • janmike
    janmike Posts: 6,146
    edited December 2009
    I own a SVS PB12-PLUS and am quite pleased with the results in my HT.
    Michael ;)
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  • inson71
    inson71 Posts: 90
    edited December 2009
    How is the SVS on music? I am about a 50/50 guy on music and movies.
    Onkyo Pr-sc 5509
    Parasound 2250/Parasound 5125
    SVS PB 12 Plus
    Denon DBP-2012 Bluray
    Polk RTI 8, CSI 3, 4 FXI 3
    Sony 55" LCD
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  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited December 2009
    inson71 wrote: »
    Michael, I am in the northwestern part of Illinois about an hour west of Rockford. Where are you? I would love to hear your sub.

    Concealer, I have it placed in the front corner. It is a bit slow on music.

    How far from the walls? I have yet to have any success placing a sub in a corner from a music aspect. Great for HT, terrible for music. At least in my experiences.
    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

    Living Room: B&K Reference 5 S2 / Parasound HCA-1000A / Emotiva XDA-2 / Pioneer BDP-51FD / Paradigm 11se MKiii

    Desk: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / ISK HD9999

    Office: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / Dynaco SCA-80Q / Paradigm Legend V.3

    HT: Denon AVR-X3400H / Sony UBP-X700 / RT16 / CS350LS / RT7 / SVS PB1000
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  • McLoki
    McLoki Posts: 5,231
    edited December 2009
    1) Wait for everyone to leave the house (so you don't get laughed at).
    2) Put the sub in your listening position (on a board if neccesary (downfiring sub on a cushy couch for example))
    3) Put on some bass heavy music
    4) crawl around on the floor around your room (along the walls) until the bass sounds good to you.
    5) switch positions with the sub (it sits on the floor, you sit on the couch)
    6) let the family back in
    7) explain to the wife that you know the sub looks stupid there, but it sounds great....

    A better sub with the same bad placement in your room will not give you the results you were looking for.


    Good luck,

    Michael

    BTW - I am in the Peoria area (you are still welcome, but it will be a longer trip). We do have quite a few members in the Rockford area though - maybe one of them can let you get your SVS listen on....
    Mains.............Polk LSi15 (Cherry)
    Center............Polk LSiC (Crossover upgraded)
    Surrounds.......Polk LSi7 (Gloss Black - wood sides removed and crossovers upgraded)
    Subwoofers.....SVS 25-31 CS+ and PC+ (both 20hz tune)
    Pre\Pro...........NAD T163 (Modded with LM4562 opamps)
    Amplifier.........Cinepro 3k6 (6-channel, 500wpc@4ohms)
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  • inson71
    inson71 Posts: 90
    edited December 2009
    Concealer, the sub is located 1 foot from the side wall and one foot from the rear wall.

    Michael, LOL my wife and kids have already been kicked out so I could have complete quiet while running audyssey. The sub is located in about the 3rd best position in the room m (the 1st wife acceptance position).
    Onkyo Pr-sc 5509
    Parasound 2250/Parasound 5125
    SVS PB 12 Plus
    Denon DBP-2012 Bluray
    Polk RTI 8, CSI 3, 4 FXI 3
    Sony 55" LCD
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  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited December 2009
    inson71 wrote: »
    Concealer, the sub is located 1 foot from the side wall and one foot from the rear wall.

    I would suspect that the placement may be an issue in your case, then. But if the wife says that's where it goes, that's where it goes. :p
    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

    Living Room: B&K Reference 5 S2 / Parasound HCA-1000A / Emotiva XDA-2 / Pioneer BDP-51FD / Paradigm 11se MKiii

    Desk: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / ISK HD9999

    Office: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / Dynaco SCA-80Q / Paradigm Legend V.3

    HT: Denon AVR-X3400H / Sony UBP-X700 / RT16 / CS350LS / RT7 / SVS PB1000
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  • PolkJunk
    PolkJunk Posts: 1
    edited December 2009
    concealer404 wrote: »
    I would suspect that the placement may be an issue in your case, then. But if the wife says that's where it goes, that's where it goes. :p

    Trying to sell my DSW micropro 4000 (brand new unopened)..How much do you guys think I will get.. (need money to buy a receiver)
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  • Knucklehead
    Knucklehead Posts: 3,602
    edited December 2009
    probably nothing on here until you have 25 posts :)
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  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited December 2009
    PolkJunk wrote: »
    Trying to sell my DSW micropro 4000 (brand new unopened)..How much do you guys think I will get.. (need money to buy a receiver)

    I'll give you $2 simply because you're going about this all wrong. Let me know if that works for you.


    Bye...
    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

    Living Room: B&K Reference 5 S2 / Parasound HCA-1000A / Emotiva XDA-2 / Pioneer BDP-51FD / Paradigm 11se MKiii

    Desk: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / ISK HD9999

    Office: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / Dynaco SCA-80Q / Paradigm Legend V.3

    HT: Denon AVR-X3400H / Sony UBP-X700 / RT16 / CS350LS / RT7 / SVS PB1000
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