B & W 801 too big for room?
Rennrig
Posts: 16
Happy Holidays,
I have a system with a pair of B & W 801's placed six feet apart at the end of a 18-20' long X 10-12' wide room with 8' ceilings, glass down one wall and bookcases down the other. I am running a Krell KAV 250 amp with a conrad johnson "Classic" preamp with phono stage.
I am getting terrible separation between the bass and mid/tweeter. Either not enough or too much. I am wndering if these speakers are simply too large for the room. I have inverted the phase (as suggested by cj) and tested both configurations with mixed results depending on the recording.
Also....there is a large 60" doorway just adjacent to the left speaker, that I can't close. The bass seems to be possibly leaking out the door??
Any ideas?
Cheers,
Rennrig
I have a system with a pair of B & W 801's placed six feet apart at the end of a 18-20' long X 10-12' wide room with 8' ceilings, glass down one wall and bookcases down the other. I am running a Krell KAV 250 amp with a conrad johnson "Classic" preamp with phono stage.
I am getting terrible separation between the bass and mid/tweeter. Either not enough or too much. I am wndering if these speakers are simply too large for the room. I have inverted the phase (as suggested by cj) and tested both configurations with mixed results depending on the recording.
Also....there is a large 60" doorway just adjacent to the left speaker, that I can't close. The bass seems to be possibly leaking out the door??
Any ideas?
Cheers,
Rennrig
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Seems like you have all top notch stuff, could be the room. Are you using any room treatments? Tried moving your speakers further apart? maybe a diagram on your set-up might help.
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It sounds like you may be sitting too close.
Are they brand new, maybe you should give them some time to break in.
Are they boomy at all?"He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche -
As Face suggested, I would try moving them to 8' apart and see what happens. That seems to be the magic number with me and most of the speakers I try.
Welcome to the Club Rennrig and post a picture or two of the great gear if you get a chance.
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Sounds good, I will try and get the speakers further apart, and maybe further away from the rear wall. These 801's fire passively out the back which might be part of the problem. I have a pair of RTi A7's on a HT set up I can swap into this room also, to see if a smaller bass profile improves the situation.
Merry Christmas,
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Nice system, are the 801 Matrix or Nautilus series?Linn AV5140 fronts
Linn AV5120 Center
Linn AV5140 Rears
M&K MX-70 Sub for Music
Odyssey Mono-Blocs
SVS Ultra-13 Gloss Black:D -
Sorry, Typo, they are 802D Nautilus.
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Wow, nice stuff. I hope you fiigure it out. I am having a similar problem with my Ls70's in a much smaller room. The bass overpowers the stereo separation unless I spread them apart to about 8 feet. The problem is when I do that I am now blocking my doorway to my laundry area and my wife will not let that happen. When I throw the speaker out to the side like that, imaging improves dramatically. My room is only 17 x 15 with 7 foot ceilings. So yes, I believe it is possible to have speakers too big for a room. It is most true of a subwoofer to be to big for a space, in fact some makers market them by room size (HSU). I am considering adding an equalizer to reduce the bass output of my LS70's, or the possiblity of using port plugs.
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Sorry, Typo, they are 802D Nautilus.
Wow,,,,,Very Very nice speakers:D
If you cant get them to work in your room, I will keep them for you;)Linn AV5140 fronts
Linn AV5120 Center
Linn AV5140 Rears
M&K MX-70 Sub for Music
Odyssey Mono-Blocs
SVS Ultra-13 Gloss Black:D
