Progressive Scan DVD
jdelan
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Stupid question I know, but would a Progressive Scan DVD player be any better (in Picture detail, clarity etc.)than the non-progressive scan Player I currently have.
DVD I have is Pioneer DV-333
TV is 27in Sony WEGA.
And what are some of the better progressive DVD players?
DVD I have is Pioneer DV-333
TV is 27in Sony WEGA.
And what are some of the better progressive DVD players?
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can your wega input a progressive scan image? if not, there is no need for a progressive scan player, unless you are looking to upgrade to a newer model that can input a progressive signal. if this monitor can input progressive scan, you sill get a clearer picture. the better the progressive monitor and equipment used, the better and more noticible diffence will be seen. there is a good thred on two resonable progressive scan players on this forum entitled 'My results with the Panny RP56 vrs. the Sony NS700p' thanks to Ron-P, i suggest you give that a read. the denon dvd-2800 is probably one of the best progressive players for the money out there right now. MSRP: $799. might be a little steep, but it's powered by Silicon Image/DVDO PureProgressive (SiI503) Decoding Engine - highest quality progressive decoding engine available. good luck, and first thing first, i would be sure to make sure your tv inputs a progressive signal.
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I know the Sony WEGA 27" does not have the Progressive Scan input, so It will not improve your picture quality anyway, unless you replace it with the one that has this provision.
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Yeah, No Progressive inputs...
Just wondered if it would yield a better picture.
I really need to hold out buying a new one until I get a new tv...This one is only a year old. No need for a new one yet... -
If you try to connect the progressive scan output to your 27' Sony WEGA input, you will see no picture at all. The new XBR model does have this input and yes, you can tell the different, the quality of the video is improved.
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The Toshiba super digital progressive SD-9200
which until a week ago was $1500.00, is now $749.00 still a pretty penny, but man what a beauty. All copper wrapped, heavy as a hummer.
Got mine at the GoodGuys.
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Not even going to touch this one. Sorry! and good luck. LATER
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What's that supposed to mean?Not even going to touch this one. Sorry! and good luck. LATER
Aaron -
It means exactly what it says! Figure it out.:rolleyes:
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Look out Scott, I'm going to figure it out! It looks to me like you think anyone that spends $750 on a DVD player, let alone $1500, is an idiot. Doesn't seem like a cool thing to say. Now, it's quite possible that I figured it out wrong, but that's how it read to me. If I did in fact take your post at face value like you suggest, why the heck did you even bother to post it?
Aaron -
Originally posted by trubluluc
The Toshiba super digital progressive SD-9200
which until a week ago was $1500.00, is now $749.00 still a pretty penny, but man what a beauty. All copper wrapped, heavy as a hummer.
Got mine at the GoodGuys.
-Luc
Take a look at this website, the Toshiba SD-9200 still listed @ $1499 @the GoodGuys, there is another heavy duty DVD Progressive Scan Player, the Panansonic DVD-H1000, Wt: 42.5 lbs, retail @$2,999.95, now sold for $799.95 at J&R.
http://pricingcentral.pricegrabber.com/search_getprod.php?masterid=378504&ut=a43a0a7c5778557a
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You were way off on that one. Must be short term memory. I am a real HT fan, embracing most new technilogy. Progressive IS the next step for people with HD monitors but according to people on the site, HD is something not achievable. So if someone walks into my store and wants an HD -HT setup. Than according to the Einstein's on this site I will have to tell them that it doesn't exsist. They should go home and watch there 19" and vcr combo unit. Just trying to help people out in a simple and exciting way and people have to get super technical to prove me wrong. Like who cares. Beginners just want to get there new and exciting hobbie on track.LATER
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Some people need to buy things a component at a time.
I asked because I didn't know. I cannot afford to go out and buy everything at once so I figured I should get the Progressive DVD now and in a few months to a year get the TV that can accept the Progressive input.
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Scott was talking to me with those comments, not you, so don't take any offense to them.
Aaron -
If you would so kindly reread this thread, you will find that the term "HD" appears nowhere except in your last post. So, with the faint hope that you might actually get it this time, here we go.
Agreed. No one has disputed that.Progressive IS the next step for people with HD monitors
HD is achievable ONLY with an HDTV signal running through an HDTV decoder! Get it? So when someone walks into your store that wants a HD HT setup, you sell them an HDTV or an HDTV-ready TV with an HDTV decoder. I think the real issue here is the usage of the term "HD." When you use that term, you're implying HDTV, which is much higher resolution than DVD. Progressive scan is just a newer method of outputting the same DVD video stream. There is no improvement in the medium's (DVD's) resolution.but according to people on the site, HD is something not achievable. So if someone walks into my store and wants an HD -HT setup. Than according to the Einstein's on this site I will have to tell them that it doesn't exsist. They should go home and watch there 19" and vcr combo unit.
What we try to do here at the Polk Forum is provide accurate information. If someone posts something that's wrong, as in your case, someone will hopefully step forward and correct them. You don't have to take it personally, but you don't seem to be able to admit that you're wrong.Just trying to help people out in a simple and exciting way and people have to get super technical to prove me wrong. Like who cares. Beginners just want to get there new and exciting hobbie on track.
Aaron -
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The Toshiba is in fact still priced at 1499. on
the website, but in most goodguys stores it's 749.
I have a friend who works there who told me about the deal a week before it hit. Also the top of the line Sony 9000es just dropped to 1199. and I was offered an open box for 949. Very cool unit, but I stayed with the toshiba.
Jdelan- I'm with you on the buy it when you can,
and when it's on sale, and keep your long term goal in sight.
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Aaron,
Let me show you how this done again. According to you there would not be any difference in picture quality in a progressive scan, we already pissed this one. I would ask what type of monitor do you have. Because if it isn't a monitor capable of HD res. with the appropiate connections, than you will see very little or no inprovements between a reg. DVD and a progressive scan picture quality. Why is that hard to understand? Yes i very losely use the word HD. Most people can tell the diffence between a High Res. picture or not. There is a big difference. Even the word progressive scan is not being used correctly because there are totally different types. That is why some of them sell for $250 and other sell for $2000. Anyway maybe I am just customer oriented, but I don't go out of my way to confuse people. Hope you understand my point of veiw, anyway. LATER SCOTTbut would a Progressive Scan DVD player be any better (in Picture detail, clarity etc.)than the -
Scott, if you were so customer oriented you would have just answered my question without going off on a tangent you knew would raise a few hairs...
I didn't think my questions were that difficult to answer. I just wanted to know if a Progressive scan DVD player would provide any kind of improvement over what I already have.
And the Answer was No...And if it did, it would be minimal.
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Well said Jdelan.... simple question, simple answer. No need to spend money to buy another DVD if it does not give you the extra benefit. But if you have to buy a new DVD player, go for the progressive scan player (price is cheaper now), chances are you may get the new high performance monitor later and it will come in handy. All progressive scan players have the option that you can switch between interlace and progressive video. Don't try the P video on monitor that doesn't have the P input provision; you will not see any picture at all. There is a way to get better picture on your WEGA 27", if your model has the 16 x 9 mode.
Use the set up on your DVD player and tell it that your TV is a Wide screen TV, then anytime you play a movie, use the set up feature on your WEGA and turn on the 16 x9 mode, you will see the difference. Good luck... -
Dude, I have two words for you: reading comprehensionAccording to you there would not be any difference in picture quality in a progressive scan
It seems this argument cannot continue until you are equipped with the necessary tools. Thanks for playing.
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Originally posted by Aaron
HD is achievable ONLY with an HDTV signal running through an HDTV decoder! Get it? So when someone walks into your store that wants a HD HT setup, you sell them an HDTV or an HDTV-ready TV with an HDTV decoder. I think the real issue here is the usage of the term "HD." When you use that term, you're implying HDTV, which is much higher resolution than DVD. Progressive scan is just a newer method of outputting the same DVD video stream. There is no improvement in the medium's (DVD's) resolution.
This statement said it all... so when you run cross: 480i, 480p, 720i, 720p, 1080i, don't worry about it.:cool: -
man, it got messy in here! guess my first post was missed, i thought the simple answer to this question was in there....
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jdelan, I have helped you out before. The issue that you now understand, is that I could have answered your question. But this is what would have happened anyway. And I must raise some hairs sometimes. I guess noone can take a joke around here.
aaron, thanks for the heads up. Your real freaking supportive. I work for a living, not sitting on my **** pecking on the keyboard all day. Thanks for ruining what may have been a good forum of much interest to me. I will move on to better sites. LATER
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This is my two bits on progressive scan players.
well, first of all i just picked up my toshiba 5700 dvd...progressive scan/dvd audio player today and i only paid 399.99 canadian before tax.
at the dealer /store the sales rep gave me a demo between the toshiba 3750 progressive scan player vs the one that i have purchased( 5700 model) and there was some noticeable difference in color and the accuracy of the picture and the stillness of the lines,(he was using the indy dvd...can' t remember the name of it) i never thought much about comparing progressive scan players but only thought about progressive to non progressive......i guess not all models will perform the same...even in the progressive models.
right now i can't really do much about the picture on my old sony tv but will once i pick up the sony wega 450xbr, i should see some difference....however, i'm trying out several dvd audio disks and trying to see how great this format is to be. so far it's okay!!!!
as for picture wise i will have to wait another two months before i can afford the wega.
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Originally posted by scottvamp
I work for a living, not sitting on my **** pecking on the keyboard all day.
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I GOT YOUR TOOL HANGING!
What the hell is that supposed to mean? Please take a look at yourself before criticize others, there are over 28,000 members in this forum and you're the only one who's working?
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I saw in the toshiba web site, that SD5700 does 8:8:8 Processing. What is meant by that? Link to 4:4:4 Upsampling it explains about 4:4:4 , what is 8:8:8. Did any body has any info?
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According to you there would not be any difference in picture quality in a progressive scanDude, I have two words for you: reading comprehension
That was not intended for you. Read the forum before blaming me. But that really doesn't matter because you guys agree with one another even when your wrong. I can't respect that, so what ever. If a person has a HD monitor that accepts progressive scan, you will get "HD picture quality". That is all I ever said. Geeeeezzzzz! I don't think that is a federal offence. :rolleyes:It seems this argument cannot continue until you are equipped with the necessary tools. Thanks for playing. -
Originally posted by scottvamp
If a person has a HD monitor that accepts progressive scan, you will get "HD picture quality".
What do you mean with this statement? If you own a HDTV with an HD tuner to receive HD broadcast , yes you will get the HD video quality (1080i). I f you have no HD tuner and use the DVD progressive scan to feeds the video and the TV does has the progressive scan input provision, all you get is the 480p lines video quality, not HD quality, if the DVD player is not the progressive scan player, then you get the 480i lines video quality. HDTV does not automatically give you HD quality picture if you have no mean to receive the signal, that is exactly what Aaron mentioned on his post. Nobody blamed you anything other than we want to verify what you said is correct. -
without getting all personal, this is the second time that someone asked a fairly straightforward question that has wound up like this. Nothing personal but, although I have no doubt you know what you are talking about, what you post is pretty confusing at best. And by using terms "loosely" you can cause more harm than good. That's all Aaron I think was getting at originally, say what you want to say so we can understand it.
For the record, I think most of us can take a joke, are gainfully employed (and if it allows us to hang around here, so much the better) and don't mind admitting when we are in error.
TroyI plan for the future. - F1Nut
