We spend 100's of millions....

NotaSuv
NotaSuv Posts: 3,849
edited December 2009 in The Clubhouse
to develope the video system for drones and for $26 its hacked....go figure

WASHINGTON -- Militants in Iraq have used $26 off-the-shelf software to intercept live video feeds from U.S. Predator drones, potentially providing them with information they need to evade or monitor U.S. military operations.

Senior defense and intelligence officials said Iranian-backed insurgents intercepted the video feeds by taking advantage of an unprotected communications link in some of the remotely flown planes' systems. Shiite fighters in Iraq used software programs such as SkyGrabber -- available for as little as $25.95 on the Internet -- to regularly capture drone video feeds, according to a person familiar with reports on the matter.

U.S. officials say there is no evidence that militants were able to take control of the drones or otherwise interfere with their flights. Still, the intercepts could give America's enemies battlefield advantages by removing the element of surprise from certain missions and making it easier for insurgents to determine which roads and buildings are under U.S. surveillance.


Now we will spend millions more to encrypt a signal that should have been encrypted from day one........
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  • everpress
    everpress Posts: 862
    edited December 2009
    NotaSuv wrote: »
    to develope the video system for drones and for $26 its hacked....go figure

    WASHINGTON -- Militants in Iraq have used $26 off-the-shelf software to intercept live video feeds from U.S. Predator drones, potentially providing them with information they need to evade or monitor U.S. military operations.

    Senior defense and intelligence officials said Iranian-backed insurgents intercepted the video feeds by taking advantage of an unprotected communications link in some of the remotely flown planes' systems. Shiite fighters in Iraq used software programs such as SkyGrabber -- available for as little as $25.95 on the Internet -- to regularly capture drone video feeds, according to a person familiar with reports on the matter.

    U.S. officials say there is no evidence that militants were able to take control of the drones or otherwise interfere with their flights. Still, the intercepts could give America's enemies battlefield advantages by removing the element of surprise from certain missions and making it easier for insurgents to determine which roads and buildings are under U.S. surveillance.


    Now we will spend millions more to encrypt a signal that should have been encrypted from day one........

    I'm a little pissed when I read about this stuff...
    Our men and women in uniform can find themselves at a loss of life due to mistakes like this.

    The mistake that our military and government leaders need to fix in the immediate:

    The enemy is poor, not stupid. I repeat, POOR not STUPID.
    As soon as this is a true realization, not to just the people on the ground, but through the administration- then we'll suffer less setbacks and our guys and gals can come home.

    IMO

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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,536
    edited December 2009
    I work for the gub'ment, I'm not at all surprised. And no, I don't make "6 figures" :D But that's a whole other thread....
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  • kevhed72
    kevhed72 Posts: 5,046
    edited December 2009
    My question would be....who in the government is going to lose their job over this type of mistake? or

    How much money is the Government going to get back from the contractor / vendor because of this error?

    I think we all know the answer.....
  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,536
    edited December 2009
    1. none
    2. none
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited December 2009
    That is just friggin scary.
  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,382
    edited December 2009
    everpress wrote: »
    The enemy is poor, not stupid. I repeat, POOR not STUPID.
    As soon as this is a true realization, not to just the people on the ground, but through the administration- then we'll suffer less setbacks and our guys and gals can come home.

    IMO

    They are not poor either... they are well funded and trained. They aquired much of their training from US.:eek: And their money comes from sympathetic supporters from Saudi Arabia, Egypt and again, from the U.S.
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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited December 2009
    I hate to say this but maybe we'd be better off employing some scraggly haired, Mountain Dew drinking, Dorito eating, pizza shut in teenage techie to encrypt a few of these things....sheeeesh there have to be 1000s of guys and gals who could've and would've protected those drones!

    What are we 'thinking with'...I'm not going to go there!

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  • TNRabbit
    TNRabbit Posts: 2,168
    edited December 2009
    Don't be so sure that wasn't allowed to occur on purpose....you can get one helluva lot of psych advantage out of letting them watch their buddies get blown to bits...
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  • Jstas
    Jstas Posts: 14,806
    edited December 2009
    NotaSuv wrote: »
    Now we will spend millions more to encrypt a signal that should have been encrypted from day one........

    I do believe that it was encrypted from day one but encryption needs bandwidth and weak/poor signal quality reduces bandwidth and backup transmitters are used that forgo the encryption to gain in transmission quality over a poor signal.

    I don't think that this is that big of a deal. The video cameras are merely the eye for the operator. That information is not necessarily considered sensitive. The strategic info being sent by the drone is most likely always encrypted. But losing control of the drone over poor quality signals is a greater risk than having the enemy know you are watching. The drones are loaded with multiple monitoring systems of all kinds anyway as well as transmission detectors and jammers. Besides, if we are finding this out in the news now, it's old news and the military likely knew it was happening for a while and didn't see the threat as a major concern or detrimental to the missions.
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  • Demiurge
    Demiurge Posts: 10,874
    edited December 2009
    More irresponsible reporting.
  • everpress
    everpress Posts: 862
    edited December 2009
    Jstas wrote: »
    Besides, if we are finding this out in the news now, it's old news and the military likely knew it was happening for a while and didn't see the threat as a major concern or detrimental to the missions.

    ^That.

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  • Jstas
    Jstas Posts: 14,806
    edited December 2009
    cnh wrote: »
    I hate to say this but maybe we'd be better off employing some scraggly haired, Mountain Dew drinking, Dorito eating, pizza shut in teenage techie to encrypt a few of these things....sheeeesh there have to be 1000s of guys and gals who could've and would've protected those drones!

    What are we 'thinking with'...I'm not going to go there!

    cnh

    They already have them and they are much better at it than the high school kids you are referring to. Then again, the article did state that the drones were not compromised. The video signal for a camera was intercepted. They did not lose control of the drones.
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  • KASR
    KASR Posts: 450
    edited December 2009
    What a half-assed piece of.....
    Man, I'd hate to think of how many of our troops this could and did put at risk.
  • Danny Tse
    Danny Tse Posts: 5,206
    edited December 2009
    steveinaz wrote: »
    I work for the gub'ment, I'm not at all surprised. And no, I don't make "6 figures" :D But that's a whole other thread....

    Under-paid government employee here as well. As someone who works on providing essential services to the public, sometimes our "enemies" aren't necessarily the people we're regulating, but those "decision-makers" upstairs who work more for their campaign contributors.

    Don't get me started on accountability in government :mad: