Development of 22.2 surround sound underway

digitalvideo
digitalvideo Posts: 983
edited December 2009 in Electronics
NHK Broadcasting of Japan has been developing the next standard of HD which is Ultra High Definition for broadcast in 22.2 surround sound and in 8k content 7,680x4,320 (16:9) which will be available in the next 25 to 30 years from now on broadcast, but possibly tv's will be able to have that technology sooner in the next generation of tv's and on the next generation of CD that replaces bluray.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surround_sound

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra_High_Definition_Video

http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/english/NEWS_EN/20090422/169150/

http://broadcastengineering.com/mag/broadcasting_nhk_pushes_surround/
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  • dudeinaroom
    dudeinaroom Posts: 3,609
    edited December 2009
    I'm still waiting for them to come out with "real feel" For the pornos
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  • TNRabbit
    TNRabbit Posts: 2,168
    edited December 2009
    Warm Apple Pie~
    TNRabbit
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  • dudeinaroom
    dudeinaroom Posts: 3,609
    edited December 2009
    you best not be ruinin' my pie
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  • wutadumsn23
    wutadumsn23 Posts: 3,702
    edited December 2009
    Mike has the best pies!!

    -Jeff
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  • TNRabbit
    TNRabbit Posts: 2,168
    edited December 2009
    ...didn't take long for this thread to go down the tubes...
    TNRabbit
    NO Polk Audio Equipment :eek:
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  • wutadumsn23
    wutadumsn23 Posts: 3,702
    edited December 2009
    LOL, I was just thinking the same thing. It's been a long night, I need sleep. Sorry for the thread crap.

    -Jeff
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  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited December 2009
    TNRabbit wrote: »
    ...didn't take long for this thread to go down the tubes...

    Tubes RULE
    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

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  • dudeinaroom
    dudeinaroom Posts: 3,609
    edited December 2009
    just add dudeinaroom and it's (in the words of the locals)"dun"
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  • dudeinaroom
    dudeinaroom Posts: 3,609
    edited December 2009
    My guess is like a lot of Japanese stuff it just won't take off. I'm happy with 5.1 and I don't think the wife would let me get away with more than 7.1. Even on the cheap @ 50 bucks a speaker it would cost $1100 just for crappy sound. Then add subs, and electronics. What if your an HTfile? Those amps are going to add up real quick. Lastly you also have waf to deal with.
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  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited December 2009
    Quantity, not quality!

    This is being developed specifically for Americans!
    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

    Living Room: B&K Reference 5 S2 / Parasound HCA-1000A / Emotiva XDA-2 / Pioneer BDP-51FD / Paradigm 11se MKiii

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  • digitalvideo
    digitalvideo Posts: 983
    edited December 2009
    concealer404 wrote: »
    Quantity, not quality!

    This is being developed specifically for Americans!

    NHK Broadcasting of Japan was the first to test and develope HD signal tv starting back in the late 1960's which takes decades to achieve. We'll see this in the next 20 to 30 years.
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  • LessisNevermore
    LessisNevermore Posts: 1,519
    edited December 2009
    Next up: Entire walls built from speakers!

    And if you thought phase cancellation was a problem before....
    This is seriously the answer to a question no one was asking.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,027
    edited December 2009
    LessisNevermore wrote: »
    This is seriously the answer to a question no one was asking.

    Amen!
    Political Correctness'.........defined

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  • comfortablycurt
    comfortablycurt Posts: 6,745
    edited December 2009
    What? No...pure and simple...just NO!

    What the hell do we need 22.2 surround sound for? Seriously...there are like 3 people in America that have large enough HT rooms to actually justify that, and it's still ridiculous overkill. 22.2 surround sound really has no practical application, other than the singular purpose of displaying how large ones machismo is.

    How many speakers can you possibly put in a room? Do you have any idea how expensive it would be to put together a 22.2 surround sound system?

    Add in a 22.2 processor, 22 speakers, 22 channels of amplification...miles of speaker wire and IC's...It's ridiculous. You're looking at 8-9000 dollars to simply put together a decent entry level setup. My 5.1 HT setup has cost me a total of about $1200-1300, and it sounds DAMN good IMO.

    I'm boycotting this...lol



    22.2 surround sound...For the man who has everything, except terrible phasing issues.
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  • bevo
    bevo Posts: 306
    edited December 2009
    the more speakers they can fit into a theater the better if you ask me. I imagine that's the only place that a 22.2 system would be used. The last few movies I went to see sounded horrible compared to my home system. maybe with 22.2, theaters could project the sound much better.
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited December 2009
    digitalvideo wrote: »
    .... in 8k content 7,680x4,320 (16:9) which will be available in the next 25 to 30 years from now on broadcast

    Taking to long. Do it in 5 years. Anything that takes 25-30 years to develop is obsolete the day it is finished.
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited December 2009
    I'm just happy that I'll be dead by the time this crap becomes reality.
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