Confused about power req for my system

ryanjoachim
ryanjoachim Posts: 2,046
edited December 2009 in Electronics
I need some advice on a new receiver. I currently have an Onkyo 605 powering 2 RTi10's, a CSi3, and 2 FXiA4's. I'm fairly certain all of those are underpowered at the moment, and I had a couple questions.

1: If they are underpowered, does that mean that the receiver is constantly running at full load? If so, does that put extra wear and tear on the receiver?

2: I've always been confused by the disparity between manufacturers with how they rate their "wpc". Could someone help me out with what my speakers need to be at "full power", and what receivers to look at?

3: My son likes to climb on the back of my couch, stand up, and poke the "bubble" at the middle of the woofers in my FXiA4's. So far only the tweeters show any damage, but i'm wondering how the sound is affected by dimples and creases in that "bubble". And also, how to repair damage done to them (if possible).

Thanks for any help you can give!
MrNightly wrote: »
"Dr Dunn admitted that his research could also be interpreted as evidence that women are shallower than men. He said: "Let's face it - there's evidence to support it."
mystik610 wrote: »
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HTPC: Chromecast w/ Plex Media Server. Media streamed from Media Server.
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  • thuffman03
    thuffman03 Posts: 1,325
    edited December 2009
    Answer to question 1 is yes. Overdriving the amp or hitting the clipping point will damage the amp and your speakers. IMO you are better off to have an amp that is larger than the max rating on the speakers because you will most likely never reach the peak of the speakers and just because you have a 200 watt amp does not mean you have to use all 200 watts. 10 watts of power can be pretty loud.
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,537
    edited December 2009
    3: My son likes to climb on the back of my couch, stand up, and poke the "bubble" at the middle of the woofers in my FXiA4's. So far only the tweeters show any damage, but i'm wondering how the sound is affected by dimples and creases in that "bubble". And also, how to repair damage done to them (if possible).

    Thanks for any help you can give!

    The dust caps being dented generally doesn't affect anything, try putting the end of a piece of scotch tape on the dust cap, then pull gently. With some finesse, you should be able to pop them back out.
    Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2
  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,537
    edited December 2009

    2: I've always been confused by the disparity between manufacturers with how they rate their "wpc". Could someone help me out with what my speakers need to be at "full power", and what receivers to look at?

    Thanks for any help you can give!

    This is a "ya gets what ya pays for question." Those HT in a box, you can bet their ratings are wrong. RMS/Watts per channel (RMS; Root Mean Square) technically is 78% of the peak power waveform, running continously (and never dropping below this level) in the true technical nature of the term, at the rated maximum distortion. However, the term is only meaningful to reputable audio equipment manufacturers. Even then it's usually measured at a single frequency (1kHz is the norm) with a perfectly resistive load of 8/4 ohms (which speakers never are).

    Bottom line, go with good names; Pioneer Elite, Sony ES, NAD, Marantz, etc, etc,...
    Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2
  • ryanjoachim
    ryanjoachim Posts: 2,046
    edited December 2009
    steveinaz wrote: »
    This is a "ya gets what ya pays for question." Those HT in a box, you can bet their ratings are wrong. RMS/Watts per channel (RMS; Root Mean Square) technically is 78% of the peak power waveform, running continously (and never dropping below this level) in the true technical nature of the term, at the rated maximum distortion. However, the term is only meaningful to reputable audio equipment manufacturers. Even then it's usually measured at a single frequency (1kHz is the norm) with a perfectly resistive load of 8/4 ohms (which speakers never are).

    Bottom line, go with good names; Pioneer Elite, Sony ES, NAD, Marantz, etc, etc,...

    And of course, all out of my usual budget range. I'm going to start working on my wife to let me get a new receiver, but will probably have to stay around 300-350 max.
    MrNightly wrote: »
    "Dr Dunn admitted that his research could also be interpreted as evidence that women are shallower than men. He said: "Let's face it - there's evidence to support it."
    mystik610 wrote: »
    Best Buy is for people who don't know any better. Magnolia is for people who don't know any better and have more money to spend.
    My System:


    TV: SAMSUNG UN55B7000 55" 1080p LED HDTV
    HTPC: Chromecast w/ Plex Media Server. Media streamed from Media Server.
  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,537
    edited December 2009
    If you go used Ryan (See the MONDO Marantz in the flea market...HINT, HINT).....Dane is practically giving that monster away.
    Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2