great FZ quote

sda2mike
sda2mike Posts: 3,131
edited December 2009 in The Clubhouse
"You can't be a real country unless you have a beer and an airline - it helps if you have some kind of a football team, or some nuclear weapons, but at the very least you need a beer."

-Frank Zappa
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  • ohskigod
    ohskigod Posts: 6,502
    edited December 2009
    I know shockingly little about this man, but this is some sage like wisdom right here..LOL
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  • vc69
    vc69 Posts: 2,500
    edited December 2009
    Whether or not these are all Zappa quotes, I cannot confirm. But they sure sound like it to me. I would have voted long ago if he had actually run for office.

    My personal favorite:

    A composer is a guy who goes around forcing his will on unsuspecting air molecules, often with the assistance of unsuspecting musicians.

    more:


    All the good music has already been written by people with wigs and stuff.


    Art is making something out of nothing and selling it.


    Communism doesn't work because people like to own stuff.


    Everybody believes in something and everybody, by virtue of the fact that they believe in something, uses that something to support their own existence.


    I never set out to be weird. It was always other people who called me weird.


    I searched for years I found no love. I'm sure that love will never be a product of plasticity.


    If you want to get laid, go to college. If you want an education, go to the library.


    It isn't necessary to imagine the world ending in fire or ice. There are two other possibilities: one is paperwork, and the other is nostalgia.


    Most people wouldn't know music if it came up and bit them on the ****.


    Most rock journalism is people who can't write, interviewing people who can't talk, for people who can't read.


    Music is always a commentary on society.


    Music, in performance, is a type of sculpture. The air in the performance is sculpted into something.


    No change in musical style will survive unless it is accompanied by a change in clothing style. Rock is to dress up to.


    One of my favorite philosophical tenets is that people will agree with you only if they already agree with you. You do not change people's minds.


    Politics is the entertainment branch of industry.


    Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe.


    The computer can't tell you the emotional story. It can give you the exact mathematical design, but what's missing is the eyebrows.


    The United States is a nation of laws: badly written and randomly enforced.


    There are more love songs than anything else. If songs could make you do something we'd all love one another.
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  • rayslifecycle
    rayslifecycle Posts: 511
    edited December 2009
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    I love Frank Zappa
  • vc69
    vc69 Posts: 2,500
    edited December 2009
    It was that very interview that made me think he should run for president. He is more intelligent than the collective of the other three. Thanks for that bit of world-ending nostalgia. :)
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  • sda2mike
    sda2mike Posts: 3,131
    edited December 2009
    great stuff! is there a book of quotes by fz?
  • vc69
    vc69 Posts: 2,500
    edited December 2009
    Here is one for the entire forum!


    "The Ultimate Rule ought to be: 'If it sounds GOOD to you, it's bitchin'; if it sounds BAD to YOU, it's ****. The more your musical experience, the easier it is to define for yourself what you like and what you don't like. American radio listeners, raised on a diet of _____ (fill in the blank), have experienced a musical universe so small they cannot begin to know what they like."
    -Kevin
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  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,077
    edited December 2009
    George Grand (of the Jersey Grands) is a walking encyclopedia of Zappa quotes.

    BDT
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  • Tony M
    Tony M Posts: 11,140
    edited December 2009
    That was a great example of how some people want to push their beliefs onto others till their dying days. Nosey neighbors are like that too.

    Thanks for that video,I never saw it then . But I was learning not to eat that yellow snow about then.:)
    Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
  • Jstas
    Jstas Posts: 14,806
    edited December 2009
    Wow, Lofton with the Hitler reference. Even before the internet, people with shallow and poor arguments played the Hitler angle with a display of an Ad Hominem fallacy for the lose.
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited December 2009
    Ya gotta love Frank. He left us too early.
  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited December 2009
    A lot of those quotes lose their true impact if you aren't familiar with the intended target, and or the circumstances leading to the quote.

    "Most people wouldn't know music if it bit them in the ****."

    This quote was one of the reasons he gave when he dis-banded the original Mothers of Invention. The quote was directed AT his paying audience at the time. I think he also said something about "clapping at all the wrong parts".

    Always the interesting guy.
  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,723
    edited December 2009
    He's held virtually as a saint in the former Czechoslovakia (Czech republic, now, I guess).
  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,077
    edited December 2009
    Love him or hate him....Frank Zappa was a genius.

    BDT
    I plan for the future. - F1Nut
  • rayslifecycle
    rayslifecycle Posts: 511
    edited December 2009
    So I got home today knowing I had a newly installed TT belt - http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92063 - and I needed to give it a listen - and with all the Zappa talk today - I chose the incredibly mint 2 disk album Zappa Them or Us - produced in 1984 and including some outstanding guitar work by Stevie Vai. I have a nice rocks glass with Jamison 12 year and, in a dim room illuminated with stained glass lanterns, I am reading the album liner.......and this is a Zappa Quote off that liner.

    WARNING/GUARANTEE:
    This album contains material which a truly free society would neither fear nor suppress.

    In some socially retarded areas, religious fanatics and ultra conservative political organizations violate your First Amendment Rights by attempting to censor rock & roll albums. We feel that this is un-Constitutional and un-American.

    As an alternative to these government supported programs (designed to keep you docile and ignorant), Barking Pumpkin is pleased to provide stimulating digital audio entertainment for those of you who have outgrown the ordinary.

    The language and concepts contained herein are GUARANTEED NOT TO CAUSE ETERNAL TORMENT IN THE PLACE WHERE THE GUY WITH THE HORNS AND POINTED STICK CONDUCTS HIS BUSINESS.

    This guarantee is as real as the threats of the video fundamentalists who use attacks on rock music in their attempt to transform America into a nation of check-mailing nincompoops (in the name of Jesus Christ). If there is a hell, its fires wait for them, not us.


    I typed this exactly as it appears with the capitals, punctuation and italics as he wrote it.
    The "Whipping Post" (last song on side 4) is now over - what a great rendition.......sung by Bobby Martin.......beautiful....
  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited December 2009
    No commercial potential.
  • Pycroft
    Pycroft Posts: 1,960
    edited December 2009
    Wow, Josh Lofton is a dickhead.
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  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited December 2009
    Here's one you won't find in any books .....

    "This next song is dedicated to the pr#ck in the back counting the overtime money."

    Carnegie Hall, New York/Fall 1971
  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,077
    edited December 2009
    Man, keep 'em coming. FZ quotes, by virtue of there basis in fact, always crack me up.

    BDT
    I plan for the future. - F1Nut
  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited December 2009
    Here's a quote you won't find in any FZ books either ...

    "A carrot is as close as a rabbit gets to a diamond."
  • beardog03
    beardog03 Posts: 5,550
    edited December 2009
    Frank Zappa was a genius, a musical genius, and my friggen HERO !!

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  • cstmar01
    cstmar01 Posts: 4,424
    edited December 2009
    Pycroft wrote: »
    Wow, Josh Lofton is a dickhead.

    I couldn't agree more, that video was ridiculous on his part, wow. They are badgering him for saying people should make music but yet don't want him to speak, and just take it, one sided debate is what he wanted. just boggles my mind.
  • SCompRacer
    SCompRacer Posts: 8,484
    edited December 2009
    Whenever I have to make a decision, I don my fav t shirt and think.....

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  • bikezappa
    bikezappa Posts: 2,463
    edited December 2009
    Frank was never fond of organized religion or Christianity.

    So, when Adam and Eve were in the Garden of Eden, if you go for all these fairy tales, that "evil" woman convinced the man to eat the apple, but the apple came from the Tree of Knowledge. And the punishment that was then handed down, the woman gets to bleed and the guy's got to go to work, is the result of a man desiring, because his woman suggested that it would be a good idea, that he get all the knowledge that was supposedly the property and domain of God. So, that right away sets up Christianity as an anti-intellectual religion. You never want to be that smart. If you're a woman, it's going to be running down your leg, and if you're a guy, you're going to be in the salt mines for the rest of your life. So, just be a dumb **** and you'll all go to heaven. That's the subtext of Christianity.
    -- Frank Zappa
  • bikezappa
    bikezappa Posts: 2,463
    edited December 2009
    For an in depth summary of Zappa and how he writes music go here and scroll down to "I am all Day and Night: The Music of Frank Zappa":

    http://www.cbc.ca/radio2/archives_ITM.html

    Ruth Underwood and Gail Zappa and other members of the group also talk about Frank. It's three hours of information and quotes for the Zappa nuts.

    Other shows there, too.